08-10-2002 04:55									#91
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I request no timer

	08-10-2002 05:23									#92
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Sounds like deity needs extra time to attack.

	08-10-2002 05:48									#93
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I should be around Tuesday night - after The Bill

	08-10-2002 09:26									#94
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Weds night more likely for moi.

	08-10-2002 09:27									#95
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Oh well we'll just make ourselves available whenever it suits you

	09-10-2002 05:15									#96
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Lads? We have a new house rule - next time Makeo grizzles about a crap starting spot, he's automatically booted from the game!

	09-10-2002 05:17									#97
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Deity did the same

How are we looking Wednesday night?

	09-10-2002 05:35									#98
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aha, it was crap.

lots of specials but lots of tundra.

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	09-10-2002 06:01									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo You offer me an equitable trade and I'll trade.

He's never going to learn that trading is about relationship

You get less one time, you might get better next time.

	09-10-2002 07:05									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo aha, it was crap. lots of specials but lots of tundra.

Oops! I forgot the other new house rule - next time Makeo asks to play one more turn, everyone immediately retires from the game!

	09-10-2002 07:19									#101
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He never seems to do anything in the extra turn anyway.

And deity, could you get your people to stop attacking me every time I open the save?

	09-10-2002 07:59									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse He never seems to do anything in the extra turn anyway.

Did last night.

	09-10-2002 08:02									#103
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LOL!

I have the same problem with Horsies

	09-10-2002 08:07									#104
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The number of offensive units you have poised on my border is hardly friendly

As for extra turns, well, if they weren't granted, wouldn't it be interesting to watch makeo's invasion fleet spill out when you open the save

	09-10-2002 08:27									#105
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Hey finbar when did i get disconected. Did you get that message. I finished my turn with four seconds to spare then got disconected.

	09-10-2002 08:39									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo Hey finbar when did i get disconected. Did you get that message. I finished my turn with four seconds to spare then got disconected.

I got the message about you having 3 minutes to go and saved. You had your turn and I saved again straight after it. We should be fine. You'd probably gone by the time I saved the second time.

	09-10-2002 08:46									#107
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Hey save some civ energy for this evening

	09-10-2002 10:25									#108
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Makeo was the one expending the energy last night.

Oh, and he played Civ beforehand, too.

	09-10-2002 11:18									#109
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So how was your day? Get a lot of script writing done?

cough, cough, YES cough

	09-10-2002 11:41									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse So how was your day? Get a lot of script writing done? cough, cough, YES cough

Cleaning up my desk, actually. Or trying to. Discovering bills months overdue. You know the problem - toss the envelope on the desk, it promptly disappears under a poultice of papers, cigarette ash and God knows what else. Sometimes I think I need a tetanus shot just to sit at my desk.

The producers from Brissy are currently in France trying to flog one of the things we developed while I develop another one. This is a very strange industry. The networks and producers all travel to a big product sales/buying expo in Cannes called M.I.P. They sit down and try to do deals. Instead of doing it here and saving an awful lot of money. Truly bizarre. Of course, they try to sell to overseas networks and distributors while they're there, but dealing with our local networks there could only be deemed - um, a junket.

Mrs finbar went a couple of years ago. Popped over to M.I.P. after she'd cruised the canals of France on a canal barge with some friends stuffing her face with cheese and red wine.

Some people.

	09-10-2002 12:30									#111
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I don't know why writers don't get more junkets - hardly seems fair so much of the junketing goes to the suits.

Writers seem to get treated like "people we don't talk about" in the film industry. I suppose the same goes for camera people and most of the others that actually make the product. Maybe because it destroys the "magic".

I'm reading an interesting bio of John Wayne by Gary Wills at the moment btw - goes a lot into the behind the scenes people who made the myth, both Wayne's and John Ford's.

	09-10-2002 13:57									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I don't know why writers don't get more junkets - hardly seems fair so much of the junketing goes to the suits. Writers seem to get treated like "people we don't talk about" in the film industry. I suppose the same goes for camera people and most of the others that actually make the product. Maybe because it destroys the "magic".

It's historical, dating back to the earliest days of the Hollywood studio system. The writers were, literally, employees. They went to work in their office at the studio. Their work was frequently re-written by the writers in the next office. Directors, while also employees, had a higher profile, literally, because there they were on the set. And, once a film is in production, the director's clout increases - he or she has established a tone and style, he or she can threaten to walk at any time, et al. Thus the directors have a profile and clout. Some writers do these days, but there aren't many.

quote: I'm reading an interesting bio of John Wayne by Gary Wills at the moment btw - goes a lot into the behind the scenes people who made the myth, both Wayne's and John Ford's.

Both very interesting men. Their ugly politics aside.

	10-10-2002 07:55									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse The number of offensive units you have poised on my border is hardly friendly As for extra turns, well, if they weren't granted, wouldn't it be interesting to watch makeo's invasion fleet spill out when you open the save

hmmm

Sounds like you rooting for Makeo, Horsie

Did I really attack you when you opened the save?

	11-10-2002 04:33									#114
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	11-10-2002 05:02									#115
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So? What happened to the pg? LOL

	11-10-2002 05:39									#116
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Deity had 75 units before the start of the session.

But don't worry - the 50 odd units he's built since are all diplos

	11-10-2002 06:34									#117
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I've nailed down the dogs and the missus.

	11-10-2002 06:48									#118
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Interesting stats - looks to me like deity was building units pretty much all session and added 50 and makeo built about 30 units - probably mostly after deity attacked him - er sorry, stole techs from him. At the rate makeo is building units I'd say he'll get on par with deity next session. Talk about an arms race.

My total unit numbers have fairly stable, mainly because I've been upgrading everything and retiring obsolete units as I go.

My civ is now a skiier's paradise

	11-10-2002 07:45									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse My civ is now a skiier's paradise

Remember "follow me home and f*ck me" shoes? Probably not. Before your time. Anyway, the concept springs to mind.

	11-10-2002 08:50									#120
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Just want to clarify something here because of something Makeo said last night, "so you swear that it is only diplos and will accept the tag of liar if there is anything else"

This is OK as a civ leader to another civ leader. So if I did lie I want to be clear that it is the civ leader that's lied and NOT me the person. I don't really like person to person deals and assurances. The way I've played, generally speaking, is in that of role mode. I don't see it as a nice gentlemanly game of tennis. I see it as a serious competetion, like playing squash with my best friend. I don't consider on court tactics/deceptions as anything to do with our real life friendship...

Are we on the same page?

As if an attacking civ is going to admit to another civ that units are on their way. You have to make decisions on what you see and hear and sometimes other civ's leaders are deceptive.

In real life I'm the nicest guy you'd ever meet

Just ask finbar and Horsie...