11-10-2002 09:10									#121
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Just been looking at the save. Interesting that we all have robotics except Makeo.

I feel Makeo's strat to get Seti and then a tech per turn had to be countered. I've stopped his tech rate, bolstered my techs, and created a situation in the world where all civs may prosper in continued peace.

	11-10-2002 09:30									#122
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quote: Originally posted by deity Just want to clarify something here because of something Makeo said last night, "so you swear that it is only diplos and will accept the tag of liar if there is anything else" This is OK as a civ leader to another civ leader. So if I did lie I want to be clear that it is the civ leader that's lied and NOT me the person. I don't really like person to person deals and assurances. The way I've played, generally speaking, is in that of role mode. I don't see it as a nice gentlemanly game of tennis. I see it as a serious competetion, like playing squash with my best friend. I don't consider on court tactics/deceptions as anything to do with our real life friendship... Are we on the same page?

Yes - you had military units in that transport and lied about it to us all

	11-10-2002 10:57									#123
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It also explains the answer to your question about whether he had a unit - the diplo - on your land.

The problem with your role-play theory, D, is that King Chat is a mixture of game and personal and sometimes indistinguishable. I think you'd better let us know in future when you're role-playing.

	11-10-2002 11:02									#124
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quote: Originally posted by deity Just been looking at the save. Interesting that we all have robotics except Makeo.

Nice little gloat slipped in there D.

quote: I feel Makeo's strat to get Seti and then a tech per turn had to be countered. I've stopped his tech rate, bolstered my techs, and created a situation in the world where all civs may prosper in continued peace.

Well I know finbar was very cross when Deity once again violated the peace of the world with tech stealing but I said to him, "Don't be mad at Deity, finbar, he's doing it for us"

	11-10-2002 11:12									#125
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What on Earth are you guys talking about? Tech stealing is part of the normal game (unless banned).
I don't get it.
I don't believe in online deals that effect games.
I DO belive in what Sid wrote in the manual about playing devious and manipulative 'friends' !
What's the problem?
I'm not going to say when I'm being me.
King Chat IS KING chat!
icq is us as friends mostly. OK? Good enough?

	11-10-2002 11:16									#126
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Good enough for me.

	11-10-2002 11:21									#127
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quote: Originally posted by deity What on Earth are you guys talking about? Tech stealing is part of the normal game (unless banned). I don't get it. I don't believe in online deals that effect games. I DO belive in what Sid wrote in the manual about playing devious and manipulative 'friends' ! What's the problem? I'm not going to say when I'm being me. King Chat IS KING chat! icq is us as friends mostly. OK? Good enough?

I don't see what the problem is - we've learned we can't believe a word you/Captain Deiticus/your evil twin/whoever is using your keyboard, says to us on KC. I don't have a problem with that. Its been noted for the benefit of all and for all future games.

Its settled now. Why do you keep bringing it up?

	11-10-2002 11:22									#128
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Cos of what Makeo said in King Chat...

	11-10-2002 11:25									#129
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quote: Originally posted by finbar It also explains the answer to your question about whether he had a unit - the diplo - on your land. The problem with your role-play theory, D, is that King Chat is a mixture of game and personal and sometimes indistinguishable. I think you'd better let us know in future when you're role-playing.

It's not just a theory... it's the way MP was conceived

	11-10-2002 11:26									#130
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quote: Originally posted by deity I've created a situation in the world where all civs may prosper in continued peace.

Yeah right

The capacity of humans for wishful thinking never ceases to amaze me

	11-10-2002 11:36									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Yeah right The capacity of humans for wishful thinking never ceases to amaze me

The balance of power has been restored.

	11-10-2002 11:40									#132
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BTW, where is Onion Island in this game?

Haven't found it yet

	11-10-2002 11:48									#133
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quote: Originally posted by deity Cos of what Makeo said in King Chat...

I interpreted his comments as "in character" anyway. I don't think he was suggesting you were some sort of real life low life.

A civ low life, yes

I don't think I've seen a game where Deity has been such a bad boy. Its all a bit of a revelation frankly.

	11-10-2002 11:57									#134
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Actually I would have said the power was firmly tipped in your direction and you've balanced it by making us stronger.

	11-10-2002 11:58									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I interpreted his comments as "in character" anyway. I don't think he was suggesting you were some sort of real life low life. A civ low life, yes I don't think I've seen a game where Deity has been such a bad boy. Its all a bit of a revelation frankly.

LOW LIFE????

I'm SPOTLESS! In ALL games btw

	11-10-2002 13:06									#136
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I've found your behaviour in the game very interesting actually - the lone wolf behaviour, the refusal to interact normally with other players on maps and tech trading, the lack of ettiquette in bilateral communication, the assumption that everyone is ganging up on you and noone will trade with you. You weren't like this before.

Its been very interesting to watch, not to say bizarre. I don't think I've ever seen such peculiar behaviour from a civ player - especially when you then tell us that behaviour which alienates other players is all part of some "master plan", lol.

	11-10-2002 13:26									#137
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quote: Originally posted by deity I see it as a serious competetion, like playing squash with my best friend. I don't consider on court tactics/deceptions as anything to do with our real life friendship...

I must have a word to your best friend before your next tennis game and suggest he doesn't bother asking you whether his shot was in or out. The answer will always, obviously, be "out".

	11-10-2002 16:13									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I've found your behaviour in the game very interesting actually - the lone wolf behaviour, the refusal to interact normally with other players on maps and tech trading, the lack of ettiquette in bilateral communication, the assumption that everyone is ganging up on you and noone will trade with you. You weren't like this before. Its been very interesting to watch, not to say bizarre. I don't think I've ever seen such peculiar behaviour from a civ player - especially when you then tell us that behaviour which alienates other players is all part of some "master plan", lol.

How strange a post is this!

Not so long ago you were saying that the Aussie games were getting weird and in a bit of a rut about who attacks who etc... now you want the reliable, secure formula back?

I'm just playing out diferent roles in diferent games. Sometimes I trade, sometimes not.

As you once said I think, predicability is a bit boring.

Surely this game is much more intersting now?

Or were we just all supposed to build Spaceships?

	11-10-2002 16:16									#139
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quote: Originally posted by finbar I must have a word to your best friend before your next tennis game and suggest he doesn't bother asking you whether his shot was in or out. The answer will always, obviously, be "out".

What exactly are you saying fin?!!

That is so unlike me - I think you know that

What have I done wrong?

Not admitting to a diplo in Horseland (jokingly)?

Stealing techs?

WTF?

	11-10-2002 16:18									#140
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Anyway, I haven't got a best friend

	11-10-2002 16:43									#141
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quote: Originally posted by deity What exactly are you saying fin?!! That is so unlike me - I think you know that

I was merely illustrating your own analogy.

	11-10-2002 16:45									#142
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quote: Originally posted by deity I'm just playing out diferent roles in diferent games. Sometimes I trade, sometimes not.

Oh

quote: Oh Surely this game is much more intersting now?

Sure is an interesting game, best for some time.

quote: Or were we just all supposed to build Spaceships?

Only over the steaming corpse of your civ

I think the problem is those appalling diplobrat games you've been playing. They would de-skill anyone diplo-wise.

	12-10-2002 20:05									#143
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I'm going to speak to Optus about you Deity

	13-10-2002 10:06									#144
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Optus is fine

Oh, I see what you mean!

I vote diplo-guiding is OK as is ship chaining.

The only rules I remember agreeing on at the beginning was no city or unit bribe.

As we aproach the end-game we better try and avoid AH wobblies...

	13-10-2002 10:20									#145
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Diplo guiding and ship chaining are okay with me.

	17-10-2002 13:05									#146
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I know this is crap but I've screwed up about tonight
I'd rather be in your bad books than a certain other person!
Sorry - hopefully Hydey will let us play the 4 way on Fri night since we are approaching the end game.

	18-10-2002 04:58									#147
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Approaching end game?

Your turns in this game have been pleasingly quick btw Deity.

I should be around Friday.

I was glad you didn't show Thursday cause it turned out I had to go to a cricket coaching clinic.

Kanga cricket starts tommorrow

	18-10-2002 08:49									#148
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Yeah, the END GAME

We are at the end of the tech tree now... it's been such a peaceful world. Should it change just because we are at the end of the tech tree?

The Horse reckons The Aztec is bulding a Spaceship but if so, I don't understand why his turn was so LOOONG?
The Dude will build one for sure but WTF will The Deity do...??

	18-10-2002 09:05									#149
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quote: Originally posted by deity The Dude will build one for sure but WTF will The Deity do...??

Probably lose from what we've seen so far

Basically you can't stop makeo.

	18-10-2002 09:51									#150
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