04-10-2002 19:09									#31
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Sn00py,

In case you hadn't noticed, you get the pop up windows at CivFanatics, too...

It seems they are unavoidable. Just have to think of them as mouse target practice.


D.

	04-10-2002 19:57									#32
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I think like Gen.Dragolen, the popup windows are almost unavoidable. Anyway, forcing us to send our files one by one sounds crazy... They should at least fix the problem of the zip files...

	05-10-2002 04:13									#33
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It's been fixed, the zips work now. Thanks Markos!

	05-10-2002 06:23									#34
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Mozilla seems to kill a lot of the banners (I've only been using it since 3 days ago now).

I've just surfed onto Apolyton, I've been here 3 mins now, and no banners yet. Normally I get about 3 by this time!

	05-10-2002 12:23									#35
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snoopy, you might want to see this
http://apolyton.net/forums/misc.php?action=faq&page=10

and please, consider a bit what you're writing about other people, before posting it in the forums.....

	06-10-2002 09:52									#36
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ok, LOL

	06-10-2002 22:20									#37
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Did anyone notice that some of the buildings are overlapping - especially in european cities. This does not look good...

	07-10-2002 01:01									#38
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I've seen that heppeing when I was trying to make something similar.

Unfortunately it a BUG, which can't be fixed by simple graphic editing (as far as I know).

In fact, it happens somethimes with ORIGINAL graphics too.

	07-10-2002 01:51									#39
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Yes, it's a bug of the game. The only reason why you notice now is that these buildings are bigger, but it also happens with the original graphics...

Here you have the "central park" modification: It puts a pretty huge park in the middle of the big cities (12 population or more), and it avoids the "central hole". It is intended to be used with the other files posted here.
This first file is only for cities in plains tiles.
Copy the file in the "art/city view/backgrounds" folder.
(Don't forget to backup your old p-lrg.pcx old file.

Attachment: p-lrg.zip
This has been downloaded 42 time(s).

	07-10-2002 02:01									#40
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This one is the file for cities in grassland tiles.
The zip file exceeds the 500000 bytes, so I have split it into two different zip files. It is the first one.

Attachment: g-lrg.zip
This has been downloaded 44 time(s).

	07-10-2002 02:05									#41
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Ismailov,

After you finish adding things, could you them ZIP them all together too make it more "compact".

P.S.
By the way, have you seen my road-fix?
Did you noticed that tiny difference from original?

	07-10-2002 02:08									#42
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And this is the second zip file for grassland cities...

Sorry, but there is no file for desert and snow cities at this moment, as the colour palettes in these files are not good enough to create a park... I don't know how to do it...

Attachment: g-lrg.zip
This has been downloaded 29 time(s).

	07-10-2002 02:20									#43
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What about making a park which is covered a little bit with snow.

That way you would not need too much of green color.

For desert use something more yellowish.

	07-10-2002 02:28									#44
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Yes, player1, I saw your road files and I think they create a good effect! That's why I would like to include all the files (my files and your files) in one only zip file once we finish the modifications of the city view (If you like) Of course, if anybody else has files to improve the city view, they are welcomed...

I tried to create a park for desert cities, but I didn't like the results... It is not easy as you have no green colour! I prefer to post the files only when they have enough quality... Did you like grassland an plain parks?

	07-10-2002 02:31									#45
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Downloading at this moment...

Still need to see them in a real game.

	07-10-2002 03:01									#46
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What about something else instead of park on those tiles?

Something of similar color, but still part of city (not an empty place).

	07-10-2002 05:08									#47
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perhaps a fountain or a statue.

	08-10-2002 05:01									#48
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I found small "graphic bug" in medivial far-east set.
There is some small blue line beneath buildings.

Here is a FIXED version I made, and which works well.
(I have just moved lower border line for 1 pixel down)

Attachment: fixed_filler-fea.zip
This has been downloaded 27 time(s).

	08-10-2002 05:06									#49
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As for the park idea.

I have mixed feelings.
I like it idea, but not implementation.

It's just in a centre.
(still lot of free room farther from center)

Sometimes it owerlaps unneedlessly.

And it makes several new streets, which together give a little "too much streets" feeling.

Now, maybe you could try to "map" all potential building places (a difficult task), and put something only there. Something small (maybe a single tree?), which can't be seen, if building is alredy built.

	08-10-2002 14:41									#50
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Regarding the bug with filler-mea.pcx, I'm in the office and I don't have here the game to check it, but I remind I had some of these problems when I was developing it, as I just checked industrial and modern cities... Thank you for fixing it...

Regarding the parks... I think there is no way to to "map" all the free places. Have a look at some different cities, and you will notice that free places are always in different possitions. If I adapt the free places to a concrete city, there will be big holes in other cities. And If I put single trees in these tiles, the tile will be anyway almost empty.

I know it could be improved in some way, but I don't know how... (Anyway, my oppinion is that I prefer the parks, even surrounding the buildings, than the holes)

	08-10-2002 14:55									#51
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But wait, aren't all building (inculding wonders and palace) always placed in same positions?

So those positions give free places.
Right?


P.S.
By the way, for know, non-park impolementation works better for me.
I'll reconsider after you impove it.

	12-10-2002 23:01									#52
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Could someone post a screenshot of what these look like in the game itself? Thanks!

	13-10-2002 00:21									#53
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Maybe you should give the parks a more "natural" shape, making them less rectangular.

And the zip-file for the grassland tile seems to be damaged... at least I can't unzip it.

	13-10-2002 01:17									#54
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Here's a screenshot with the original zip, Player1's roads and no park - American with all wonders through TOE.

Attachment: amallwon2toe.jpg
This has been downloaded 227 time(s).

	13-10-2002 01:20									#55
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Same as above, but no wonders.

Attachment: amnowon.jpg
This has been downloaded 225 time(s).

	13-10-2002 01:22									#56
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I'd like to see one with the park. Does anyone have one?

	15-10-2002 01:52									#57
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Your mod is fantastic! Awesome!

	15-10-2002 04:45									#58
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So Ismailov, have you used these in the game? Don't get me wrong, the mod is a change for the better. But your fans cry out... I can only give them one possible cultural view - and I didn't download the park. The people cry out for more! (dam'n, I sound like one of those idiot advisors) Or have you just been too busy enjoying playing the game and looking at the cities with your new mod? If so, I don't blame you - but send pictures!

	15-10-2002 14:35									#59
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Ok! I'm here again... I was missing the last days because there was a looooot of work in the office... This work will take me a few more days... As soon as possible, I'll be back here and I'll try to develop some of the improvements you are demanding me. So, let me make you all the following question: What would you like to get improved next in the mod?

	15-10-2002 15:14									#60
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(YES, miccolf, I have played the game with the mod! And I'll send more screenshots of other culture types, both modern and industrial, with parks, as soon as possible...)