11-10-2002 06:44									#241
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quote: In anycase, it doesn't surprise me a single bit that the Pro-Palestinians are arguing without inspecting the facts. I doubt CyberGnu knows what this thread is about, but he's happy to jump in.

More baseless accusations?

Well, since you weren't man enough to put your money where your mouth is last time, I'm going to assume you are not man enough here either.

	11-10-2002 06:45									#242
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I haven't read the first bit of this thread. Nary a post. Don't need to. Israel is justified to do whatever it needs to do.

	11-10-2002 06:51									#243
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quote: As for the facts:

LOL!

Again, you are killing me!!!!



Playtime again kids! This weeks 'fill in the blank' is:

Siro is to facts like
A) Oil is to water
B) Jerry Falwell is to Richard Simmons
C) Kethup is to Pancakes

	11-10-2002 06:52									#244
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As for your interpretation of reality, Siro, try reading a newspaper once in a while.

	11-10-2002 06:52									#245
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quote: I haven't read the first bit of this thread. Nary a post. Don't need to. Israel is justified to do whatever it needs to do.

Heil Sharon!

	11-10-2002 07:17									#246
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Cyber, why don't you rest a while?

You've been marching up and down this thread for so long, your arm is probably tired from being held up.

As for newspapers, Cyber, I have nothing to read. You have banned every pro-Israeli article claiming it was unfounded nonsense.

First it was just Jersualem Post, and then the rest of the Israeli media, and later Die Welt. I guess NYT and WP fall in the same category, as they tend to interview "secret Israeli security officials" once in a while.

	11-10-2002 07:20									#247
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Tell me, Cyber, if you're such a terribly moral person, it must run in the family.

What did your family do during WWII?
Did they know any Jews?

	11-10-2002 07:22									#248
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Why would I march? I'm not Israeli.

If you bothered to read the previous thread, you would see that I never condemned Die Welt. I said they either made up or failed to check one particular story. I also wondered whether Die Welt is a jewish magazine. I know one of the major german language papers is a jewish publication, but I'm not sure which one it is. I asked for information regarding this.

Of course, all this fits in the 'facts' category, which you so vehemently object to.

	11-10-2002 07:23									#249
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Seaking of which - I'm surprised your family even lived to see the end of WWII, assuming you are Swedish.

Given your high moral standards of resisting evil and occupation, your whole family should have died in freedom fighting against the Nazis, killing every last one of them with a rusty nail.

It appears that they haven't for some reason.

Given your logic - they are war criminals and nazi collaborators, since they did not do everything they could to resist the occupation.

	11-10-2002 07:26									#250
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quote: Tell me, Cyber, if you're such a terribly moral person, it must run in the family. What did your family do during WWII? Did they know any Jews?

No, my last name isn't Wallenberg, if that is what you were alluding to.

Since Sweden wasn't in the war, my grandparents didn't do much. My mothers father spent two years as an aircraft mechanic, IIRC. My fathers father spent two months riding the swedish railservice, due to a set of mixed up orders. In the end they let him go home to his farm.

	11-10-2002 07:27									#251
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quote: I said they either made up or failed to check one particular story. I also wondered whether Die Welt is a jewish magazine. I know one of the major german language papers is a jewish publication, but I'm not sure which one it is. I asked for information regarding this.

Oh right, Jews rule the media, and are all vehemently Zionist - I forgot.

No difference of opinion exists in the Jewish world, as we all must follow Jahova to exterminate all non-jews.

quote: Of course, all this fits in the 'facts' category, which you so vehemently object to.

You are right.

I appologize for trying to hide the huge Jewish conspiration.

Ladies and Gentleman - Jews are to blame for everything.

	11-10-2002 07:28									#252
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Now see there what your aversion to facts have done to you...

I didn't think there was anyone on this board oblivious to the fact that Sweden was never occupied in WW2 (in fact, has never been occupied in all of history).

You really should try reading a newspaper once in a while.

	11-10-2002 07:29									#253
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quote: Since Sweden wasn't in the war, my grandparents didn't do much. My mothers father spent two years as an aircraft mechanic, IIRC. My fathers father spent two months riding the swedish railservice, due to a set of mixed up orders. In the end they let him go home to his farm.

But didn't they have your iron moral standards? To fight occupation where ever it lies, using a rusty nail?

	11-10-2002 07:30									#254
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quote: Oh right, Jews rule the media, and are all vehemently Zionist - I forgot. No difference of opinion exists in the Jewish world, as we all must follow Jahova to exterminate all non-jews.

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	11-10-2002 07:33									#255
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quote: I didn't think there was anyone on this board oblivious to the fact that Sweden was never occupied in WW2 (in fact, has never been occupied in all of history).

Where have I claimed Sweden was occupied?

I just figured, that if people who are complacent about the occupation of Palestine are war criminals, that people who were complacent about the occupation of Europe are war criminals too.


The reason I asked whether you are swedish was that if you were american it would have been much harder to actually participate in the war on your own.

	11-10-2002 07:33									#256
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quote: But didn't they have your iron moral standards? To fight occupation where ever it lies, using a rusty nail?

You can;t tell a moral right from a moral obligation?

Well, of course not. You are an Israeli apologist. silly me.

	11-10-2002 07:36									#257
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Anyway, speaking about it, why wasn't Sweden in the war, as you said. Did it not care much?

How could it be that most of the western world was mobilized on either side of the mattress, and sweden just sat there?

Maybe then the Nazis bought the swedish government from Jewish hands?

	11-10-2002 07:39									#258
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Because Sweden was neutral. And unlike Norway and Denmark, it wasn't cost effective for Germany to invade.

quote: Maybe then the Nazis bought the swedish government from Jewish hands?

Your pathetic trolls don't even make sense....

	11-10-2002 07:40									#259
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quote: You can;t tell a moral right from a moral obligation? Well, of course not. You are an Israeli apologist. silly me.

So, for Jews it is a moral obligation to fight occupation, while for everyone else it is merely a moral right, which they can excersize, prefferably if the occupators are Jewish?

	11-10-2002 07:41									#260
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quote: So, for Jews it is a moral obligation to fight occupation, while for everyone else it is merely a moral right, which they can excersize, prefferably if the occupators are Jewish?

?

Israel has a moral obligation to leave palestine. Palestine has a moral right to fight for their liberation.

	11-10-2002 07:42									#261
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quote: Because Sweden was neutral. And unlike Norway and Denmark, it wasn't cost effective for Germany to invade.

Why didn't Sweden invade german occupied territories and liberate them?

	11-10-2002 07:55									#262
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Because it would have been suicide.

Do you actually think you have a point in all this, or do you just enjoy showing off your ignorance?

	11-10-2002 07:58									#263
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quote: Originally posted by CyberGnu Do you actually think you have a point in all this, or do you just enjoy showing off your ignorance?

I am strongly reminded of a phrase involving a pot and a kettle...

	11-10-2002 08:02									#264
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Well, are you any better than Siro? Please point out where and in regards to what I am ignorant.

And be specific. No pathetic 'well, you know nothing about Israel'. Siro can do that all by himself.

	11-10-2002 08:07									#265
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IMO Siro has been arguing pretty competently...


That whole thing about the two stripes on the flag being the Euphrates and the Nile and Israel going to control all that? Sorry, think that Siro is ignorant if you like, but he can't top that!

	11-10-2002 08:09									#266
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quote: That whole thing about the two stripes on the flag being the Euphrates and the Nile and Israel going to control all that?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've never claimed this. I did refer to it once, however, as a

quote: well known arab myth

.

So I'm expecting an apology.

	11-10-2002 08:14									#267
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quote: Originally posted by axi Errrr, excuse me, Eli, that flag of yours... ....could you explain to me what those two horizontal blue stripes are supposed to represent? Some bird told me that they actually represent the rivers Nile and Euphrates, between which lies the land of Sion, which is supposed to be the "lebensraum" for the people of Israel. This is what the star of David among the two stripes is symbolising: Jewish control ove the entire area. I guess this includes Palestine, Lebanon, half of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and half of Iraq. That's alot of space don't you think.

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...20&pagenumber=4

You thought it was true in the first post of this page....

	11-10-2002 08:19									#268
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quote: Originally posted by CyberGnu The festering wound that is Israel corrupts the entire civilized world, showcasing how propaganda and sufficient bribe money for politicians can overcome ideals such as justice and freedom.

Funny thing for you to say when you used a "Well Known Arab Myth" as an argument for your ludicrous ''Israel=Fascist" theory.

Could propaganda sometimes be spread in the form of a "Well known (insert nationality here) myth?"

Once again. Pot.... Kettle..... black....

	11-10-2002 08:23									#269
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Jaguar, if you look in the top corner of each post you can read something called 'username'. Sometimes referred to as 'handle'.

You, for example, post under the username 'Jaguar Warrior'. I post under the username 'CyberGnu'.

Now, when we've established what a username is and what information one can glean from it, you might want to take a look at that link you posted again.


Again, I'm expecting an apology.

	11-10-2002 08:24									#270
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BTW, what country are you from? (This is curiousity, not leading to an argument)

I'm American.