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Who was the worst U.S. President?

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Harding, that corrupt bastard.

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Where is Carter?

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Where is Kennedy?

Jon Miller

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William Henry Harrisson. What a sick bastard.

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James B. would seem to take the cake.

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Where's Reagan

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FDR

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LBJ

One word-Vietnam.

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quote: Where's Reagan

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FDR is the worst- he is why we have to pay social security tax!

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Some observations.

What I confirmed is true it is becoming a Clinton - Bush battle instead of something more interesting.

Also anyone who says that Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Jackson, Lincoln, Grant, TR, Wilson, FDR, JFK, or Reagan will need strong proof to convince me that they were generally bad presidents.

W.H. Harrisson? He was only president for a month and mostly confined to bed because of Pnuemonia(sp.)

Carter is also not on the list nor is Ford. Neither were generally bad presidents.

I thought this would be a war between Hoover and Buchanon.

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James B:

he fiddled while guys got the matches ready to burn the town down. No wonder he was a bachelor....

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Where is Woodrow Wilson on there?

He was one of the most overtly, unabashedly racist president we ever had, IMO.

He was also hypocritical with his 14 points for the League of Nations. Sovreignty would apply to all European countries, but not their colonies, since the "little brown brothers" needed European paternal guidance.

He also helped further mythologize the history of Reconstruction that occured after the Civil War, in ways that would perpetuate Jim Crow laws in the 20th century.

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Clinton. Corrupt to hell. At least other presidents did a better job covering up fund raising scandals.

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Harry S. Truman for using nuclear weapons.

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quote: Originally posted by kolpo Harry S. Truman for using nuclear weapons.

How was that a bad thing?

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yah, I consider Truman one of the better presidents

Jon Miller

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quote: Clinton. Corrupt to hell. At least other presidents did a better job covering up fund raising scandals.

Like Bush you mean? **cough**Enron**cough**

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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan LBJ One word-Vietnam.

Thats who I marked on the Bad Mr. President ballot.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc How was that a bad thing?

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller yah, I consider Truman one of the better presidents Jon Miller

As do I. Truman languished over the thought of using nuclear weapons, but it was a wise choice in the end.

We killed more people firebombing tokyo than we did at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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quote: Originally posted by NeOmega Thats who I marked on the Bad Mr. President ballot.

Vietnam was Kennedy's baby.

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yah but Kennedy wasn't around to mark, and Johnson escalated Vietnam tremendously, as well as brought back the draft, (IIRC) the worst part about Vietnam.

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Though I can't stand Bush, I think he shouldn't be an option here. He's got still time to do something to be remembered as great president

I have to ask why Mr. Star Wars didn't make the cut...

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I think Reagan should be up there as well. Most definitely.

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Where is Woodrow Wilson on there? He was one of the most overtly, unabashedly racist president we ever had, IMO.

That is correct. Unfortunately there were far worst presidents.

quote: He was also hypocritical with his 14 points for the League of Nations. Sovreignty would apply to all European countries, but not their colonies, since the "little brown brothers" needed European paternal guidance.

Well I would agree and disagree. Some of the 14 points were the foundations of the UN.

quote: He also helped further mythologize the history of Reconstruction that occured after the Civil War, in ways that would perpetuate Jim Crow laws in the 20th century.

Reconstruction ended after the 1876 elections. I have already put Rutherford B. Hayes on the list. "Separate but equal clause" was decided in 1896 in the case Plessy v. Ferguason when Grover Cleland was in office. So Cleland was the first president that could of stopped the "Separate but equal," Clause but did not.

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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Like Bush you mean? **cough**Enron**cough**

**cough** Uh huh, and you don't know that Enron actually gave more to the democrats. **cough**

I need a cough drop. :rolleyeS:

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quote: Uh huh, and you don't know that Enron actually gave more to the democrats.

source?

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Truman nuked the dirty Japs because they attacked us first without any provocation- kinda like the sniper now. They were unstable and had mental issues, and it took a nuke to straighten them up. A lot of people were killed, sure, but it taught the rest of Japan a priceless lesson- don't mess with the US!

FDR was a pansy who didn't get us into WWII early enough, until he was forced to by Pearl Harbor.