23-10-2002 00:51									#61
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That's right, Sava.

Perhaps if you didn't post blatant lies, no one would correct you, da? Consider that next time.

You didn't have a clue what you were talking about, I corrected you with the truth. I couldn't care less who the hell you insult, since you can't do it worth a damn anyway, but I do think it's wrong for you to misinform everyone because you're an ignorant ass who's high on himself.

	23-10-2002 00:59									#62
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Sava is treading on dangerous waters...

	23-10-2002 01:05									#63
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Sava has become the leftist answer to Fez.

	23-10-2002 01:29									#64
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Okay, simmer down y'all...

Back to topic. Suppose I need an e-mail client. Just that. So I install Outlook and what do I get? Something with an Agenda, a Taskmanager and a lot more I didn't ask for. Bloatware...

I install Eudora and what do I get? an e-mail client. Nuff said methinks...

	23-10-2002 01:30									#65
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Why would you install Outlook if you just needed an e-mail client?

What do you think Outlook Express is for?

	23-10-2002 04:28									#66
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quote: Sava has become the leftist answer to Fez.

True dat.

	23-10-2002 04:43									#67
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nevermind---


I use Outlook Express for mail and news. Does the job well and requires no extra download.

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	23-10-2002 08:36									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Sava has become the leftist answer to Fez.

yeah I'm afraid talking to a complete baffoon will do that to me... I should probably just ignore him...

but hey, maybe these boards just need balance

	23-10-2002 16:12									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What CAN'T you do with Outlook's filters?

You're not answering the question. Sheesh.

quote: Originally posted by Asher Groups of people to send email to? Click their name in the address book, then the -> arrow -- or type in their emails separated by a ; -- or use CC -- or make a contact list to send to...

I meant, how do you define groups?

quote: Originally posted by Asher How well does it manage the address book? Very well, the better question is what DON'T you like about how it manages it?

That's not the point. The point is you said Outlook is perfect. So I am asking you a few questions to see what it cannot do.

quote: Originally posted by Asher As usual, UR, you've shown a stunning ignorance about the product. No wonder why you walk around screaming it's crap -- you're not different than the other Linux zealots.

Your responses are so predictable.

First of all, we here have already established that you are an MS zombie defender. Or apologist if you prefer. So I understand your desperate need to try to label others, but so far, you are failing miserably. Billg is going to be displeased.

Secondly, without answering my questions, you made some pretty big blanket generalisations.

So, we are back to square one, waiting for your answers.

	23-10-2002 16:17									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Never had one in my life. Why? Because my outlook never downloads .vbs and the like, and Norton Antivirus 2003 is plugged in and scans all emails before Outlook even gets to them.

Golly gee, you are a laugh a minute.

Do you realise that no matter what antivirus program you use, you can't catch new viruses? Ah, what a brilliant display of knowledge we have here. :vcool:

quote: Originally posted by Asher Why would I need another one when Outlook does all I need, plus more, as well as my email and contact list? Seems a bit stupid to me to find a gazillion other programs to do the same thing one program does just fine.

I am not surprised that you'd settle for the mediocre. If it's MS, mediocre = great... for you.

	23-10-2002 16:19									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Why would you install Outlook if you just needed an e-mail client? What do you think Outlook Express is for?

For dumb people who don't have a clue.

	23-10-2002 17:31									#72
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UR... its nice to see some intelligent posts...

BTW, this is a stupid argument anyways... if fan boi wants to use outlook, let him bask in the ignorance and ineffiency that is MS.

	23-10-2002 20:44									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger You're not answering the question. Sheesh.

Perhaps it's because it's a stupid question? It's like asking what kind of documents you can write with MS Word...

quote: That's not the point. The point is you said Outlook is perfect. So I am asking you a few questions to see what it cannot do.

Wait wait wait -- I don't remember saying Outlook is perfect. It's not perfect, it's just the best choice for my needs from what I've seen and tried.

quote: First of all, we here have already established that you are an MS zombie defender. Or apologist if you prefer. So I understand your desperate need to try to label others, but so far, you are failing miserably. Billg is going to be displeased.

UR, don't you get tired of rehashing the same ****? You've made it clear you don't have a clue how to use Outlook, or even what it does, but you still called it crap. Then you have the balls to call me an "MS zombie defender"? Whatever, man, I'm sure you're such a big man in your eyes.

quote: Golly gee, you are a laugh a minute. Do you realise that no matter what antivirus program you use, you can't catch new viruses? Ah, what a brilliant display of knowledge we have here. :vcool:

I've been using outlook for many years and never had it happen. Why do you suppose that is? I only open email attachments where I know what they are. I've got Outlook set so it doesn't run any scripting.

Why don't you think about things before you post them, UR? You look like a total freakin' moron as you desperately try to slam MS about a product you've clearly never used much.

I don't know if you don't think I'll notice, but I've noticed how you asked extremely general questions and then ignored most of my answers, took a couple of my general answers and then cried that I didn't answer the questions.

Here's an idea: Why don't you use Outlook for a while and figure it out for yourself? You're the one, after all, who branded it as "crap" and then clearly showed you have no idea about its features. The onus is on you to tell me what it can't do, I'm not going to sit here listing what it can do because so far it DOES do everything you've listed. You either don't believe me or you're trying to cop-out with stupid veiled insults with Sava massaging your back and cheering you on.

I'm not buying it, and I don't think you're nearly as bright about it as you think you are.

	23-10-2002 20:49									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Sava BTW, this is a stupid argument anyways... if fan boi wants to use outlook, let him bask in the ignorance and ineffiency that is MS.

For future reference, "boi" is a spelling used almost exclusively by the gay community.

I particularly enjoyed your comment about the "ignorance" that is MS, considering in this thread it's clear both you and UR have been nothing but ignorant and MS employs thousands of PhDs.

	23-10-2002 21:45									#75
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the company has no business ethics whatsoever... I don't really care which internet browser or mail prog I use... to me, its all the same... despite their good software MS is evil... and as much as you beat off to your Outlook, it won't change that fact

	23-10-2002 22:36									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Asher For future reference, "boi" is a spelling used almost exclusively by the gay community.

Hey, not all people who speak Portuguese are gay!!

"Boi" is the Portuguese word for "ox"...

	24-10-2002 01:08									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Sava the company has no business ethics whatsoever... I don't really care which internet browser or mail prog I use... to me, its all the same... despite their good software MS is evil... and as much as you beat off to your Outlook, it won't change that fact

Silly Sava, you're one of those people that think "good" and "evil" are "facts".

I love your types usually, except when they become one-trick ponies as you have...then they become depressingly pathetic.

MS is evil because it's #1. MS bundles an internet browser for free -- they're called evil bastards. MS bundles MSN Messenger for free -- they're called evil bastards. MS enforces 1 license to 1 computer -- they're called evil bastards.

I hope some day that you, and to a lesser extent the Linux zealots, grow up and realize what a business is. A public business is about making money for its shareholders, and that's what MS does.

You can call their business practices evil (since you clearly know so much about business!), but that's opinion and not fact.

	24-10-2002 01:14									#78
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**cough**anti-trust**cough**

	24-10-2002 01:45									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus **cough**anti-trust**cough**

Yes, we all know that Apple is evil.

	24-10-2002 01:46									#80
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Apple sucks too

besides the Ellen Feiss ad.

	24-10-2002 04:37									#81
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Ok, Asher, I want to use Outlook instead of Outlook Express. Should I do it?

	24-10-2002 06:50									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus **cough**anti-trust**cough**

You mean the one where MS basically got away with? Why do you think they got away with only a tiny slap on the wrist?

Because someone up top clued in the whole reason the anti-trust case existed was because certain competitors spent millions lobbying and paying the government to persue MS. They wanted MS' hands tied behind their back so the competitors could take over.

AOL cries and cries about how MS bundling IE destroyed Netscape -- at the same time they keep producing Netscape AND bundling lots of its own products with it and its ISP service. Huh?? What a joke.

The whole anti-trust thing is a joke, which is why no one hears anything about it anymore.

	24-10-2002 07:19									#83
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quote: Why do you think they got away with only a tiny slap on the wrist? Because someone up top clued in the whole reason the anti-trust case existed was because certain competitors spent millions lobbying and paying the government to persue MS.

It certainly didn't happen because MS spent millions to get the government to forget all about the antitrust case. MS would never do such a thing; it was all an evil conspiracy by AOL, Sun, and Netscape. May Bill Gates bathe us in his blessed light for all eternity...

	24-10-2002 07:21									#84
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Drake...don't start with me. People who actually have been here in debates with me know that I tell people that MS lobbies like hell now.

Prior to the anti-trust case, MS was apolitical corporation-wise. They never lobbied. Now they spend millions a year lobbying, because their competitors did the same and got an anti-trust case brought up against MS accordingly.

Come on Drake, misrepresent my position some more. You know it's all you have.

	24-10-2002 07:27									#85
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All I was doing was pointing out that this assertion was complete bullshit...

quote: Because someone up top clued in the whole reason the anti-trust case existed was because certain competitors spent millions lobbying and paying the government to persue MS.

The resolution of the antitrust case had nothing to do with "someone up top" realizing that Microsoft was being unfairly targeted. It had everything to do with Microsoft's huge amount of political donations...

	24-10-2002 07:31									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten The resolution of the antitrust case had nothing to do with "someone up top" realizing that Microsoft was being unfairly targeted. It had everything to do with Microsoft's huge amount of political donations...

Bush was always opposed to the antitrust case, Drake, long before he was in office.

But do go on, I find it fascinating. How much money did MS donate? You've obviously seen a figure, since you claim it's "huge"?

	24-10-2002 07:41									#87
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http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS...tics/index.html

quote: According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Microsoft has contributed $1.1 million dollars in soft money to both major political parties this cycle -- $529,000 to the Democrats, and $607,000 to Republicans. The software giant gave another $700,000 to individual candidates -- and it is those numbers that tell the story behind the company's newfound political activism.

Over a million dollars in contributions counts as huge to me. Have any other great ideas on how to change the subject, hotshot?

	24-10-2002 07:45									#88
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$1.1M is huge?!

LOL!

Christ Drake. Bush has been opposed to it LONG before he was in office, as have most republicans. It was the democrats who bought into lobbying of Sun, Netscape, Sony, etc and brought up the antitrust case under the veil of helping the consumer when all they were doing was helping the competition unfairly.

Bush is against that sort of thing on principle, being a fan of big business and all. But do tell me how you can equate how Bush put an end to it because he got a HUGE $607,000 payment.

Am I the only one who sees how stupid this is...

	24-10-2002 07:52									#89
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Hasn't MS been in league with the RIAA lately Ashie?

	24-10-2002 07:53									#90
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quote: Am I the only one who sees how stupid this is...

Pretty much. If you don't see how $607,000 plus all of the individual contributions Bush got is a significant amount, then I don't know what to say. I don't know how to discuss issues with someone as blinded by fanboyism as you...