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Chowlett is offline Chowlett
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Anyone know where Outlook keeps the details of which email accounts etc it's polling? I noticed the other day that my IMAP sent folder wasn't working, so I removed and re-added it. After a large quantity of subsequent trauma, which started with Outlook crashing whenever it polls headers (which it does on startup), and ended with me uninstalling and reinstalling Office, I opened Outlook to find that all the old account details etc were still there, and it was still crashing. I'd like to clear all the account info out of it, and see if I can persuade it to work again.

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If you find out let me know. Sometimes I'll start outlook and it won't respond and I haven't been able to fix it no matter what I do. But if I wait long enough it will finally open and operate correctly for about a month before going wacky again. Sometimes it hangs for a day or two before it loads properly.

I probably need a patch or something.

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I use outlook express, and it has never crashed or caused me any problems when adding or deleting new accounts. I just make sure I download all the updates as MS makes them available.

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At home I use only outlook express. Outlook was a pain that caused continuous crashes and resulted in much gnashing of teeth (and re-formatting of HD to remove the basterrd).

OTOH, I use it at work on an NT machine and its fine (but I dont try to change anything on it).

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I am using Express now. The trouble is, I quite liked Outlook's diary features...

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I had a dream last night in which someone actually liked microsoft. I was so surprised when I found out I nearly crashed my flying elephant.

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Nov 2000
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AH reinstall windows, or install another copy, and than check your e-mail from there .... if not that, than what??? phhhh... who knows where is that error. Can be in a million of files, out of whom 10% do not uninstall.

Those improper uninstalls... I trully dislike them, and they are fairly common.

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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But MS just wants to help you. Why would you really want to uninstall something that they've lovingly created for you? They're your friend.

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But MS just wants to help you. Why would you really want to uninstall something that they've lovingly created for you? They're your friend.




they are your friendly bloodsucking nerverbreaking leech... that we have to use because we know no better...

Faboba is offline Faboba
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Personally I'll stick with Windows. The last thing I want is an OS which is smarter than I am.

( That said though, keep away from MacOS - the poor thing's retarded )

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Welcome to the club.

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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I used to be a Mac user, but I kicked the habit.

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Personally I'll stick with Windows. The last thing I want is an OS which is smarter than I am.

( That said though, keep away from MacOS - the poor thing's retarded )


Or maybe I don't want an OS that is more stable than I am

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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Well then use any mac OS below x. They're good for 2 crashes/day under any strain.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Outlook2000 has a few, uh, "interesting" peculiarities, at least under NT type OS's.

One thing is that is that it sometimes runs in multiple processed - when you hit F5 or the Send/Recieve menu item, the part of Outlook2000 that queries mail servers launches in it's own process. If you have multiple accounts, do a send/receive, and close the main Outlook window (to end the program) before the send/receive finishes, the main Outlook program closes but doesn't terminate the child process. Next time you try to run Outlook, it recognizes itself (or what it thinks of as itself) in the orphan process, and then fails to finish loading itself, leaving two orphan processes.


Then people launch again, and again and again.

If you have NT/2k/XP, you can Ctrl-Alt-Del for Task Manager, and switch to the processes pane to see if there are orphan Outlook processes. There are other creative options for making Outlook go nuts, too.

To get to Chowlett's question, it depends on if you're configured to use Exchange Server as well - for the average schmo on the street, all Outlook data are stored in a .pst file extension. The standard file name is Outlook.pst

That file is typically in the c:\windows folder if you've been running older versions of Outlook/Windows and upgraded, otherwise, if you're set up with network logons, running Win2K or XP, etc., then it's likely in something like C:\Documents and Settings\(either User or your login name)\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook

If you run Outlook to connect as an Exchange Server client (assuming you're talking about a work comp instead of a personal desktop or laptop), the file locations are similar, but you have different files for inbox, etc., with different extentions than .pst

To clear and restart the mail accounts, you need to do it from Outlook - Tools - Accounts then select the account and click Remove.

Since you're using IMAP folders, also check the properties of the folders (to see the files used to store them locally), and check the Tools - IMAP Folders menu item as well.

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I use MS Outlook 2002, and it works great. I don't think it has ever crashed. It used to hang all the time accessing my hotmail account, so I deleted that account, and everything now works great.

...Actually, when I was at home the other day on a different internet connection, I noticed that it wanted a "Common Client CC" to access the internet (according to ZoneAlarm). It doesn't seem to want to on my university network. Weird, but whatever. Hope it's not a virus. =P

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I deliberately messed up my Outlook when it was apparent that a virus/trojan/etc. was interacting with it last year...

Down with M$!

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So, since I'm not using it as an exchange server, and since I can't keep the thing open long enough to adjust the accounts, I should look for and delete the appropriate .pst file, is that correct?

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So, since I'm not using it as an exchange server, and since I can't keep the thing open long enough to adjust the accounts, I should look for and delete the appropriate .pst file, is that correct?


I am not sure what are all the settings stored in *.pst, however I wouldn't think that MS outlook automatically makes the connection. I would assume that the error is somewhere else. In registry or some other system file that is somehow connected to MS outlook. But give it a try, juist instead of deleting, just move the file.

Reason being in *.pst all your old e-mails that you kept are saved, and when you for example install a new version of MS Outlook on your PC (if you have dual boot for example) you can connect to your *.pst that the othere system has created and use the same file to connect to and continue storing all your e-mail without splitting up the folders etc... ensuring contiuity.

That is one of the useful features, and as you have to make the connection manually, and ms outlook functiones perfectly with the new *.pst file it has created I am not sure if some special settings are stored there that may mess up your present Outlook configuration.

However without losing the data move the *.pst file to another directory, as it will be the same as if you deleted it for the program, and you will be able to connect to it later to retrieve old e-mail in case this helps (if you want to try that).

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Amazing! Not one post from Asher. Bill will be displeased.

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Amazing! Not one post from Asher. Bill will be displeased.


They'll cut his rate

No bonus tonight.

Chowlett is offline Chowlett
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Sorted. I shifted the 3 .pst files out, and started Outlook. It complained a bit, but I then removed the offending account, and moved the only .pst which hadn't been recreated back. I then re-added the account, making sure to leave out the sent items folder, which I think has gone pearshaped on the server. It now, touch wood, seems to work...

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One word: Eudora...

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Just use Eudora. So it has ads, big deal. It works great

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One word: Eudora...

I use the email client in Opera: a great total solution!

Asher is offline Asher
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Yes. Use Eudora, drive a Yugo, and live in Bosnia.

It's the only way to go.

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Yes. Use Eudora, drive a Yugo, and live in Bosnia.

It's the only way to go.


Thank god!

I was getting worried about you, Asher! Thought you had frozen to death or something...

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Some of us go to school so we can get jobs and create Outlook 2010.

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Some of us go to school so we can get jobs and create Outlook 2010.


My school is on fall break right now. Sucks to be you...

 
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