19-11-2002 10:33									#391
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You have to love it... all the experts are saying if Ohio losses... that they are out of it... yet they say the next one loss team that should get in is Washington... the team Ohio beat...

WE WANT A PLAY OFF!

	19-11-2002 12:02									#392
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What? And miss all the fun? Nahhh....

	19-11-2002 18:09									#393
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quote: You have to love it... all the experts are saying if Ohio losses... that they are out of it... yet they say the next one loss team that should get in is Washington... the team Ohio beat...

AHEM... Washington STATE.



(Sorry, had to get you for the Iowa State crack you made)

	19-11-2002 20:33									#394
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui (Sorry, had to get you for the Iowa State crack you made)

Good catch... and only fair

	19-11-2002 20:39									#395
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And it's Ohio STATE, not Ohio!

	19-11-2002 22:54									#396
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Damn straight!

When they get beat by Michigan they would like you to know which team got drubbed .

	20-11-2002 01:58									#397
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quote: Originally posted by DanS And it's Ohio STATE, not Ohio!

No that should be

THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY

I hope everyone keeps underestimating the Buckeyes just to hear what they have to say when they take the Feista Bowl

	20-11-2002 02:04									#398
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OSU may not be running up the points against people, but their defense is pretty solid. They just win games!

It will be fun to watch the traditional end of the Big10 season match up between OSU and Michigan. It's a great rivalry, and anything can happen. I hope OSU can win and get a chance to play for the national championship.

	20-11-2002 02:22									#399
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Would love to see a respectable team win the BCS for a change. Go OSU!

	20-11-2002 02:46									#400
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OSU more respectable than Miami?

	20-11-2002 02:58									#401
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From a salary cap and trouble with the law point of view at least.

Go buckeyes beat criminals.

	20-11-2002 03:00									#402
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Miami is squeaky clean nowadays .

Sorry, find another school to slander.

	20-11-2002 08:12									#403
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Slander is such a lawyer's word.

It'll only be a matter of time before Miami shows its true colors and joins the ranks of 'bama and Tennesee.

	20-11-2002 08:14									#404
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You mean where Ohio State is right now?

I consider Ohio State to be the biggest blight on college football today. It is a semi-pro school. Super low standards and just built for college football.

	20-11-2002 08:18									#405
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Regardless, I hold it in higher esteem academically speaking then the aforementioned schools. (Football players aside)

	20-11-2002 08:24									#406
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Prejudice peeking through?

Ohio State is the absolute pits academically!

I'd take Miami, UTenn, or Alabama over Ohio State anyday!

	20-11-2002 08:53									#407
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LOL....

Truth be told my judgement of schools is not what it used to be.

For example, we moved from Delaware/PA area to come down to Georgia so that our kid(s?) could be in some decent schools (grade school and high school level) only to find GA ranked dead last and PA ranked 11th IIRC.

Shows what I know about school systems.

LOL...

Guess I'll make sure to stick with Wharton and PSU.

	20-11-2002 09:01									#408
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Sorry, but only GA&S is not selective at OSU, which does tend to hurt its overall reputation. But at least they take the land grant thing seriously. OSU is on par or superior to all four of those schools in most programs, and is the absolute best at others. I would rate them as an above average large state school. Not one of the elite, but definitely not the pits. For the record, I am an OSU graduate school alumni. The grad school and pro schools have a better rep than the undergraduate program, and are very selective. I studied electromagnetics. OSU is probably in the top two or three programs in the world for e-mag.

	20-11-2002 18:48									#409
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Ogie, as a graduate from a GA school I just have to laugh at your story! People come from Pennsylvania to Georgia for economic opportunity, not because the schools are better!

	20-11-2002 18:54									#410
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Ogie, as a graduate from a GA school I just have to laugh at your story! People come from Pennsylvania to Georgia for economic opportunity, not because the schools are better!

Too bad Ogie gave up his high-paying job in PA for his kids lackluster education in GA.

	20-11-2002 20:04									#411
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Too bad Ogie gave up his high-paying job in PA for his kids lackluster education in GA.

Just doin what every parent does for their kid(s?). Completely messing up their lives with good intentions and bad execution.

	22-11-2002 10:38									#412
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Well... so much for the discussion on education values of different schools

Miami survived against Pitt tonight. This might have been their toughest game left.

Ohio has one last tough challange left.

If they both survive, the BCS will survive another year without looking bad.

However, if one or both should lose... Then all of the BCS faults will be on display again.

	22-11-2002 11:04									#413
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"If they both survive, the BCS will survive another year without looking bad."

...and it will be another year which would have been ruined by a playoff.

	22-11-2002 11:10									#414
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quote: Originally posted by DanS ...and it will be another year which would have been ruined by a playoff.

That's where I disagree... I personally don't think that OSU or Miami are the best teams in the country right now. With a playoff, they could prove it

	22-11-2002 12:31									#415
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quote: Ohio has one last tough challange left.

Ohio STATE!!!

quote: That's where I disagree... I personally don't think that OSU or Miami are the best teams in the country right now. With a playoff, they could prove it

If you care about who the best team is at the end of the season, then OSU and Miami may not be it. If you care about who has had the best season, however, these two are clearly the best. College football is about quality over the entire regular season, not which team is the best in December.

	22-11-2002 13:02									#416
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I care that the best team in the Country wins the national championship. And in my opinion, the best team is a team that can win when the chips are down... when it really matters. A playoff would do just that. It would bring out the best... and let the lossers fall by the wayside. Frankly... I don't care if a team went undefeated in the regular season, but then lost when it really mattered... because in my opinion, they aren't champions. Both OSU and Miami have looked average at best down the stretch... Granted, they have still won their games, but neither look as good as some of the other teams playing.

	22-11-2002 13:05									#417
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quote: And in my opinion, the best team is a team that can win when the chips are down...

quote: I don't care if a team went undefeated in the regular season, but then lost when it really mattered...

So you basically don't give a **** about the regular season and consider it irrelevant. My worst fears about a playoff system have been neatly summed up in one post. Thanks!

	22-11-2002 13:46									#418
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The regular season GETS you to the playoffs... making the regular season VERY relevent. Thanks for disproving your whole argument in one single post

OSU getting away with a lucky victory against the happless Illini this week isn't my idea of championship team. Miami gets to end their season by beating up to lossers as well (assuming they can do that)

Let them prove they can win against the best teams.
Make them play the games.

	22-11-2002 18:49									#419
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quote: ...and it will be another year which would have been ruined by a playoff.

Heaven forbid if the best team wins the nationa championship (and yes I think the best team in the country has 1 loss even though there are two undefeateds).

Drake: I dunno, you seem to think that there is a going to be a 100 team playoff starting in Week 1. You have to win the games needed to make the playoff you know. It ain't easy being in the Top 8. No team right now ranked 8 or higher has more than 2 losses.

	22-11-2002 23:57									#420
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Fine, turn college football into a mini-NFL if you want. Just don't start *****ing when everything that makes college football great disappears because of your wonderful playoff...