21-11-2002 15:42									#91
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Wales-NZ

Which should be fun.

	21-11-2002 15:44									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Actually I save my best 'attack dog' sessions for your forwards as it is crystal clear how they choose to infringe even to the casual observer.

The Wallaby forwards? They're usually being shoved backwards so quickly it's actually 10 minutes before kick-off when the ball is cleared.

*Havak seethes at having his slagging rug pulled out from under him*

quote: Even the greatness that is Kronfeld falls off his feet at the drop of a feather.

Inner ear problem?

	21-11-2002 15:46									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Andydog I saw them in Twickenham the other weekend. They were sending each other messages via pigeons, specially picked from Trafalgar Square.

I hear the England forwards and backs all carry recent photographs of each other to help them recognise each other.

	21-11-2002 15:47									#94
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quote: Pots and kettles!

As Tamerlin and LDiCesare will not doubt affirm France and England do keep the game a little bit more 'honest' than their southern opposition.

We certainly avoid the silly histrionics. Oh look one of their players is down after we won the scrum/penalty/free kick. Oh look he is perfectly okay 2 minutes later - and there we were thinking his neck was broken. Oh imagine that, they have an Aussie coach.



Come on Tamerlin - I have opened the door, walk right on through.

quote: *Havak seethes at having his slagging rug pulled out from under him*

I found an alternate angle (see above).

quote: Inner ear problem?

Nice answer.

	21-11-2002 15:48									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Yes, Olivier Magne can be a great player, even one of the best, but I don't like his attitude on the field, from times to times he seems to forget about Rugby and start acting like a boorish amateur player coming from another age.

But I'm sure he makes a damn fine Confit de Canard!

	21-11-2002 15:50									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Come on Tamerlin - I have opened the door, walk right on through.

Sorry, Tamerlin's busy sticking pins in his Olivier Magne doll.

	21-11-2002 15:52									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Havak I found an alternate angle (see above).

Nice try, no chocolates.

BTW, obviously a quiet morning at work?

	21-11-2002 16:04									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Pretorius is back at Fly for Saturday so their kicking is shored up a little.

Did well against us. Looked like a handy player.

quote: James moves to inside centre so may even last five minutes into the game before shoulder charging someone?

If that. I pray for the day he gets a red card.

	21-11-2002 16:08									#99
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quote: Originally posted by finbar BTW, who is playing this weekend? Boks -v- England, Italy -v- Wallabies, and who else?

France -v- Canada

	21-11-2002 16:12									#100
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quote: Originally posted by finbar But I'm sure he makes a damn fine Confit de Canard!

I'am sure he eats it better than he makes it !

	21-11-2002 16:13									#101
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Okay, my suggested margins for the weekend:

1. England -v- Boks (Boks get 17 1/2 points). The Boks' penalty count - and Wilkinson's boot - alone will kill them.

2. Wallabies -v- Italy (Italy gets 20 1/2 points). I was misled about there only being 22 fit players from which to choose the Wallaby team of 22. Apparently there are, in fact, 23 fit players from which to choose.

3. Wales -v- All Blacks (Wales gets 22 1/2 points). Pure guesswork. I might need to be 32 1/2.

	21-11-2002 16:14									#102
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quote: BTW, obviously a quiet morning at work?

I’m waiting on someone else to do something.

quote: Did well against us. Looked like a handy player.

From what I have seen of him I agree.

quote: If that. I pray for the day he gets a red card.

This is truly only a matter of time.

You know even when indulging in some serious back tracking with a view to his retirement up here the mouth managed yet another little dig in closing a piece on England.

It’s well worth reading

here

	21-11-2002 16:21									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Havak You know even when indulging in some serious back tracking with a view to his retirement up here the mouth managed yet another little dig in closing a piece on England. It’s well worth reading here

Talk about serious backtracking! I didn't realise he was that young. I'd've thought he was young enough to play on anyway.

	21-11-2002 16:23									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Havak As Tamerlin and LDiCesare will not doubt affirm France and England do keep the game a little bit more 'honest' than their southern opposition.

As the laws of the game are more strictly enforced in our domestic championships, the NH players are used to respect some aspects of the law the SH players don't bother to remember anymore (Have I been good, Havak ? ).

quote: Oh look one of their players is down after we won the scrum/penalty/free kick. Oh look he is perfectly okay 2 minutes later - and there we were thinking his neck was broken.

Are you telling us the SH players are using the despicable "fake injury" strategy to break the flow of the game after a scrum or a maul when they are dominated by our teams ? I'am shocked...

quote: Come on Tamerlin - I have opened the door, walk right on through.

Meuuuuuuuuuuh !

	21-11-2002 16:52									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin (Have I been good, Havak ? ).

	21-11-2002 17:38									#106
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quote: Have I been good, Havak?

Very good. As witnessed by Finbar's reaction.

quote: Are you telling us the SH players are using the despicable "fake injury" strategy to break the flow of the game after a scrum or a maul when they are dominated by our teams ? I'am shocked...

I suspect it came as a blow to the SH lads too. They thought all those nancies falling over were really hurt and that the trainers sponge contains some kind of wonder drug to mend broken necks.

Heh this is fun - but I bet I can't get Finbar to rise to it.



On more serious matters I see Will Carling has fingered our centres as a weak link. Now where did he get that idea?

	21-11-2002 17:59									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Heh this is fun - but I bet I can't get Finbar to rise to it.

I doubt you would get a ton of warm yeast to rise to that sort of tosh.

	21-11-2002 18:02									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Havak On more serious matters I see Will Carling has fingered our centres as a weak link. Now where did he get that idea?

I know I keep asking this, but I keep forgetting - was he the Royal Pork Sword?

	21-11-2002 18:05									#109
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I've mentioned before have I not how easy I find it to spot an Aussie coached team. I use that "tosh" as my methodology in those cases.

Yes indeed Mr Carling, the last England captain to be truly guilty of running an 'Elite' clique, was indeed the brawn that did for the brainless.

	21-11-2002 19:12									#110
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quote: Originally posted by NeoStar 'We' have humoured? Sorry, Caligastia but I think Havak made a pretty seroius debate. Don't think you talk for everyone.

Do you know what it means to humor someone? Havak had a good discussion, but I would be suprised if he continued the l***** discussion much further than it has already gone.

I think I can speak for everyone here (except you and Journeyman) when I say that we are here to discuss rugby UNION only. If there is any distraction from that I am confident it will be short-lived.

quote: I say don't continue this arguement but you can be sure you wont be completly ignored. Post anytime you feel!

He is welcome to post anytime, as long as he stays on topic.

	21-11-2002 19:25									#111
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Another name for a future thread :

Rugby - Union Only !

That said, you are welcome Journeyman.

	21-11-2002 19:32									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Havak I actually think 15 is reasonable based solely on this months form. I do also think the Boks will play their best game against us however. Did you know that apparently no Bok team in history has ever toured and gone home with no wins. Saturday may be a truly historic day.

Part of me feels sorry for the boks, but then I remember the '95 RWC, so...OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

quote: Originally posted by finbar I think 15 is an absolute minimum.

But you're underestimating the rest of the world's hatred of the english!

	21-11-2002 20:29									#113
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Said with true angst.

quote: But you're underestimating the rest of the world's hatred of the english!

He is! 25 point start to England then?

	21-11-2002 20:36									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia But you're underestimating the rest of the world's hatred of the english!

You should rather say : "...the rest of the commonwealth's hatred of the english!". Most of the other countries only dislike them.

Even with a 100 points margin for the Boks I would back England.

	21-11-2002 22:04									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Havak He is! 25 point start to England then?

Nahh...don't think so.

quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Even with a 100 points margin for the Boks I would back England.

Care to make it interesting?

	22-11-2002 04:55									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin You should rather say : "...the rest of the commonwealth's hatred of the english!". Most of the other countries only dislike them.

And one day you will all come to your senses. What, after all, has England given the world? Apart from Twinings' English Breakfast Tea?

quote: Even with a 100 points margin for the Boks I would back England.

Mmmmmm. You're on!

	22-11-2002 05:01									#117
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quote: Originally posted by finbar And one day you will all come to your senses. What, after all, has England given the world? Apart from Twinings' English Breakfast Tea?

Rugby...

quote: Mmmmmm. You're on!

South Africa must show they are able to play Rugby before I back them again.

	22-11-2002 05:02									#118
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Come on, lads, let's establish some margins and get some Civ Gold flying. This is our last opportunity for a while.

My proposed margins are posted somewhere back on this page or the previous page. To save scrolling back, here they are again:

1. England -v- Boks (Boks get 17 1/2 points).

2. Wallabies -v- Italy (Italy gets 20 1/2 points).

3. Wales -v- All Blacks (Wales gets 22 1/2 points). Pure guesswork. It might need to be 32 1/2.

Anyone got other any suggestions?

Here's our current Bank A/c.

Andydog 277.5
Caligastia 68.5
finbar 73.5
Havak 90.8
LDiCesares 141.8
Mickeyj 143.5
NeoStar 114
ravagon 94
redbull 80
Tamerlin 62.3

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	22-11-2002 05:06									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Rugby...

Yeah yeah, but if they hadn't invented it, the French would, you know that. So, apart from rugby?

quote: South Africa must show they are able to play Rugby before I back them again.

I'm not interested in your justification for backing England when South Africa have a 100 points start! I only want your Civ Gold!

	22-11-2002 05:10									#120
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Yeah yeah, but if they hadn't invented it, the French would, you know that. So, apart from rugby?

Cricket ?

quote: I'm not interested in your justification for backing England when South Africa have a 100 points start! I only want your Civ Gold!

The symbolic Civ Gold.