19-11-2002 20:20									#1
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I looking to set up an 8 player game on a regular map everyone and everything random. No whining if you dont get your favorite civ or if you start in the tundra with England on a pangea map. Think of the glory if you won under those conditions.

Maybe 4 human and 4 AI players (monarch ?) so that the turns will be quicker than with 8 human players.

	19-11-2002 20:27									#2
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I guess I should have said I'm looking for players who can normally play 1-2 turns/day but wont have a brain seizure if someone is occasionally slow.

Post your email if you're interested

	19-11-2002 22:37									#3
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I'd like to play. Sent you PM with my email address.

	19-11-2002 22:52									#4
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Got it thanks.

	21-11-2002 17:46									#5
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I'd like to play if there is room please.

jshelr@aol.com
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	21-11-2002 18:14									#6
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(without the _)

Dont count on 1 turn/day with 8 players.

	21-11-2002 22:07									#7
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Jshelr and eli,

Great.

That gives us 4 with delmar, I'll set it up when I get home around 1630 poly time with 4 AI civs and we can get started.

	21-11-2002 23:39									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Eli shadowmn_@netvision.net.il (without the _) Dont count on 1 turn/day with 8 players.

Only 4 humans. I think even 2 turns/day is possible if we arrange the turn order cleverly, taking the time zones into consideration. My suggestion is:

1. Eli
2. jschelr
3. Spencer
4. delmar

This way we can minimize the idle time. This way, in theory, everyone could play 1 turn in the morning and 1 turn in the evening (relative to his own local time), I believe.

Thoughts?

	21-11-2002 23:49									#9
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quote: Originally posted by delmar 1. Eli 2. jschelr 3. Spencer 4. delmar

1. Spencer
2. delmar
3. Eli
4. jschelr

This order will be better, since Spencer is the one who starts the game, but the timezone order remains.

	22-11-2002 00:27									#10
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Good planning on order can really speed things up.

"This way we can minimize the idle time. This way, in theory, everyone could play 1 turn in the morning and 1 turn in the evening (relative to his own local time), I believe."

You're tough. I start work at 5.45am to monitor overnight trading in European markets. If I play a turn before going in I can promise you it will look even dumber than the AI's play.

I also go home early and can get the game quickly away to others for use before dinner in US hours, if that helps.

	22-11-2002 01:37									#11
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I was thinking of setting it at monarch (yes/no) and using the most militant civs for the AI's (yes/no).

	22-11-2002 02:04									#12
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr Good planning on order can really speed things up. "This way we can minimize the idle time. This way, in theory, everyone could play 1 turn in the morning and 1 turn in the evening (relative to his own local time), I believe." You're tough.

It was just an idea, not a rule. I won't attack you if you play only 1 turn a day.

quote: I start work at 5.45am to monitor overnight trading in European markets. I also go home early and can get the game quickly away to others for use before dinner in US hours, if that helps.

Actually, then the question is whether you can finish your turn before Eli goes to sleep. Like this:

        Local   Apolyton
            Time     
Spencer	16	17
delmar	18	21
jshelr	22	22
Eli	8	1
Spencer	8	9
delmar	8	11
jshelr	14	14
Eli	22	15

Do I get an extra settler for putting this together?

Last edited by delmar on 22-11-2002 at 02:16

	22-11-2002 02:09									#13
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I assume you are asking for our opinion.

quote: Originally posted by SpencerH I was thinking of setting it at monarch (yes/no)

Yes.

quote: and using the most militant civs for the AI's (yes/no).

I would prefer to leave it random.

	22-11-2002 02:18									#14
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr I start work at 5.45am to monitor overnight trading in European markets.

Btw, I offer you 1 gold/turn in exchange for stock tips, how is that?

	22-11-2002 03:15									#15
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Done!

I've lost $20K during the last 15mo.

The game is on its way to you. Monarch, everything random (including barbs).

1. Spencer
2. delmar
3. Eli
4. jschelr

He He, I'm not the English. I've actually played this civ before

Last edited by SpencerH on 22-11-2002 at 03:29

	22-11-2002 03:31									#16
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jschler

Just in case you didnt see it

my email Trichsci___@excite.com (no underscore)

	22-11-2002 04:35									#17
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delmar -- these days you don't take stock tips from guys like me, you inform on me to elliot spitzer

looking forward to it guys

BTW, some of the groups are sending two games at a time around. solves a couple of problems. one, if you get nearly eliminated from one, having the other provides a reason to hang around. and two, you get a little more game time relative to downloading and such.

	22-11-2002 04:41									#18
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Also

watch out for the extra c in my email address

it's jshelr@aol.com without the c that crept in above

as my countryman said, whatever can go wrong will go wrong

	22-11-2002 06:18									#19
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Eli, save file attached.

Edit: attachment deleted.

Last edited by delmar on 27-11-2002 at 01:20

	22-11-2002 06:29									#20
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH I've lost $20K during the last 15mo.

Build the Wall Street, man! 5% fixed return on liquid assets -- no stinkin' high tech stock can beat that!

quote: He He, I'm not the English. I've actually played this civ before

Chairman SpencerH, huh? I think it is fair to say that you have been compensated for the English. Maybe even for that $20K.

Darn, I hope you are on another continent with those Riders...

	22-11-2002 06:58									#21
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr delmar -- these days you don't take stock tips from guys like me, you inform on me to elliot spitzer

Oh, that's right. In that case, we demand tribute, or else we shall unleash our army of Eliot Spitzers upon you!

"The Romans fear our Attorney General!"

	22-11-2002 09:39									#22
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Played and sent to jshelr.

	22-11-2002 22:09									#23
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Are we planning on an intensive session over the weekend?

	22-11-2002 23:02									#24
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I'll be keeping a close eye on my (that) email address. It looks like the other game I'm playing will be slow. I wont complain if we try to speed it up, but we have to consider that we all have different schedules.

	22-11-2002 23:52									#25
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Please arrange a speed session if at all possible. I'm on a plane until about 7.30 tonight but will check in to see.

	22-11-2002 23:54									#26
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I'm free for most of Saturday.

	23-11-2002 00:37									#27
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On to delmar

Something strange though. It told me it was 4000BC still. I could set the tech direction but it wouldnt let me do another move as if my previous 4000BC turn hadnt been completed.

	23-11-2002 00:53									#28
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Strange indeed, I couldn't move either. 4000BC attached again. Will we go an extra round for 4000BC or do we want to investigate this a bit?

Edit: attachment deleted.

Last edited by delmar on 27-11-2002 at 01:21

	23-11-2002 00:58									#29
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I could play during the following hours during this weekend (Apolyton time):

Friday 7pm -- Saturday 1am
Saturday 10am -- Saturday 1pm
Saturday 5pm -- Sunday 1am
Sunday 10am -- Sunday 11pm

Let me know if any of these spots fit everyone. Otherwise I'll just check email occasionally.

	23-11-2002 01:05									#30
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Odd.

I couldnt move, but everything(city growth, production, income) advanced by one turn.

Save sent to jshelr.