04-12-2002 23:46									#151
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Chris,

Glad to see your not bitter about it. LOL.....

	05-12-2002 01:58									#152
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Is there a RB more over-rated than Curtis Martin?

You are kidding me, right? For years, he's been the Jets. Running for over 1,200 yards allowing them a chance at the playoffs. HELL, his running made Vinnie Testaverde look good for a few years!

quote: Fassel wins, it's about the only thing he could win.

Not close, Chris. It MUST be Marty Moringweg.

	05-12-2002 02:50									#153
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Curtis Martin bites, and you only think he made Testaverde look good.
Testaverde only looked good by comparison with the way he's always looked in the pros. Pitiful.

	05-12-2002 02:54									#154
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Curtis Martin bites, and you only think he made Testaverde look good.

I thought you knew football .

Anyone that says Curtin Martin wasn't good was NOT paying attention.

	05-12-2002 02:54									#155
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I'll put Fassel up against him Imran.

The genius just cut Herman Moore, after NEVER using him, and Sean Bennet, who he insisted was critical to the pass game in pre-season, yet was never used.

No man does less with Moore then FASSEL.

	05-12-2002 02:56									#156
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

At least Fassel willed the team to the playoffs one year. Moringweg couldn't will a team to 6 wins.

	05-12-2002 02:59									#157
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Marty is hamstrung by a dumb GM.

Fassel is hamstrung by idiocy.

	05-12-2002 02:59									#158
	Support Apolyton

Imran, GOTCHA! You fish.

	05-12-2002 04:24									#159
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Marty is hamstrung by a dumb GM. Fassel is hamstrung by idiocy.

The Bears have both problems... and on top of that... we need a real NFL QB...

	05-12-2002 04:29									#160
	Increase the size of your Attachments

The Bears always have a good RB, an exciting hard-hittng defense, and no QB.
Don't say McMahon.

	05-12-2002 04:37									#161
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

That's the real sad part... They put up a list of the top 10 Bears QBs in terms of touchdown passes... and McMahon was THIRD OR FOURTH ON THE LIST!!!!!!!!

	05-12-2002 04:40									#162
	Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand The Bears always have a good RB, an exciting hard-hittng defense, and no QB. Don't say McMahon.

Okay, how about Tomczak(sp)?



And they did draft Flutie.....

ACK!

	05-12-2002 04:44									#163
	Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Tomczak

quote: And they did draft Flutie.....

Hmmm... I guess my throw up smiley doesn't work anymore... time to update it...
No... we didn't draft him, but he did play for us later in his career... but still...

	05-12-2002 04:44									#164
	Remove this text

Are you saying Cade WASN'T the answer?

	05-12-2002 04:45									#165
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by Ming Hmmm... I guess my throw up smiley doesn't work anymore... time to update it... No... we didn't draft him, but he did play for us later in his career... but still...

Those are some nice red X's

ACK!

	05-12-2002 04:48									#166
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Hey... old address for them... now updated

	05-12-2002 04:51									#167
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Ming Hmmm... I guess my throw up smiley doesn't work anymore... time to update it... No... we didn't draft him, but he did play for us later in his career... but still...

I stand corrected, drafted by the Rams in 1985, then trade to the Bears in 1987.

Also drafted by the USFL's New Jersey Generals.

ACK!

	05-12-2002 05:04									#168
	Suffering from ads?

Once again I'll go against the grain, and say that Flutie was a pretty good QB. As much as he was able, he rose to the occasion.

	05-12-2002 05:16									#169
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

But always came a little short in the end.

	05-12-2002 05:37									#170
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Oh this is lovely. Straight-man for the walrus.

	05-12-2002 07:27									#171
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Oh this is lovely. Straight-man for the walrus.

You won't be the first... or the last.

He may have been a good QB at points in his career... but he wasn't very good for the Bears. The team didn't want to play for him. And when your linemen don't like you... can you say SACK

	05-12-2002 07:50									#172
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Eric Kramer, Ming, Eric Kramer .

	05-12-2002 08:17									#173
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Speakingof QB's, Michael Vick is now listed as questionable against the Bucs, due to flu -like symptoms.

ACK!

	05-12-2002 08:48									#174
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Oh yeah... Eric Kramer... Gee, another Marino, Elway, Farve, Montana... yeah... Eric Kramer...

	05-12-2002 19:17									#175
	Got spare money?

And let's not forget #1 pick and former All Pro Jim Harbaugh!!

The Beloved Bears wouldn't know a quality QB if they saw one, and they never play an offense where a competent QB could thrive (well, except that one year with Kramer, Curtis Conway, and Engram).

Flutie was immature and not ready to be thrown into a playoff game when he was here, then became a star later. Harbaugh was terrible in Chicago, but later got Indy to the AFC championship game IIRC. McMahon was a winner but couldn't stay healthy after Walter left.

(Moment of silence for the greatest RB ever...)

We also had Hall of Famer George Blanda and cut him. He then played for, like, 20 years as kicker and backup QB for the Raiders, routinely winning key games in relief roles when their starters went down.

Prediction: Between Carson Palmer and Byron Leftwich, only one will be a quality NFL QB.

...and the other one will play for the Bears.

	05-12-2002 19:23									#176
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Who ? Maybe they can both play for Chicago.

	05-12-2002 19:44									#177
	Support Apolyton

quote: Oh yeah... Eric Kramer... Gee, another Marino, Elway, Farve, Montana... yeah... Eric Kramer...

Hey now, don't forget Andre Ware, Rodney Peete, Chuck Long, Dave Krieg, Charlie Batch.....

edit: Scott Mitchell........

	05-12-2002 22:13									#178
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Hmmm... from reading your list, it seems like Detroit has had similar QB problems as the Bears have

	05-12-2002 22:22									#179
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Kid stuff.

Dave Brown, Tommy Madox, Kent Grahm, Danny Kannel, Joe Pisarchek....

The Giants had only two good QBs, Simms and Tittle.

	05-12-2002 22:25									#180
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

The Bears have had moderately good QBs since mcmahon, so I don't know what you guys are complaining about.

For the past 25 years, The Lions have been a Black Hole for QBs around the league-they get sucked into a space-time vortex, pulverized into oblivion, and spit back out into the AFC or Canadian Football alternate universi as a mere shell of their former shelves.