02-12-2002 21:12									#121
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I think you should join. You never know what those Russians are up to you know.

	02-12-2002 21:19									#122
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Nah, I think that's not a reason to join. I think we should join, because we should patricipate in world safety, and not just benefit from others. We should chip in, and do some combat.

And though Putin is a guy you can't get your hands on and figure him out, he's not threat. He's a smart guy, and he has continued our strong relations. Not strong as hugging each other, but strong as in not to say bad things about the other one.

	02-12-2002 21:25									#123
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Russia's defence minister Sergej Ivanov is very fond of Finland (he was ambassador there?). So you're safe for now.
But who knows whos in Kremlin ten years from now?

	02-12-2002 21:34									#124
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Damn Gangerwolf, you're more paranoid than us!
Of course we have intelligence working all the time, of course we are always developing our army etc.
We just have to sit tight, keep it out of our minds and if the time comes, it comes. Intelligence will let us know so we have time to prepare for it, and theres always some kind of readyness for things like that. Why should we worry about something that MIGHT or COULD happen?

	02-12-2002 21:46									#125
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I'm just saying you'd be safer if you join NATO now while can. If some psycho took control of Russia then you might get finlandized again. Or worse.

	02-12-2002 21:49									#126
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Well, we understand that you're Norwegian and want to stay outside EU.

	02-12-2002 21:55									#127
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What are you hinting at?

	02-12-2002 21:57									#128
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Yep, some psycho might take over in Russia. Magic word might .

We should join yes, but not because of that.

	02-12-2002 22:00									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka We should join yes, but not because of that.

We don't need you. We didn't need Lithuania, etc. either for that matter.

	02-12-2002 22:00									#130
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quote: We should join yes, but not because of that.

of course.

quote: I think we should join, because we should patricipate in world safety, and not just benefit from others.

sounds much better

that's what you'll tell the ruskies right?

	02-12-2002 22:02									#131
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Ok, if our help is not needed, then we can stay and continue benefitting others fighting. That's cool.

GRRRRRR no it's not cool I want some too!

	02-12-2002 22:04									#132
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Pekka, become citizen of USA or UK and join their armed forces. You can get to fight and get paid for it.

	02-12-2002 22:07									#133
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edit. have to check my sources

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	02-12-2002 22:07									#134
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Rasbe, I have even put up a thread about that. I'd do it in a second if it was that easy. I'd be close to 75 years old when they granted me citizenship. Green card is enough, but it's not like they're easy to obtain. If I get the chance, I'll go for it though.

I can't understand your views about not wanting to fight? Why should others die for a common cause?

	02-12-2002 22:08									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin Pekka, become citizen of USA or UK and join their armed forces. You can get to fight and get paid for it.

That takes to long for him and he doesn't want to join the French Foreign Legion.

	02-12-2002 22:11									#136
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DinoDoc, damn it, you have a good memory . I don't know if I should be afraid.

	02-12-2002 22:11									#137
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Serb has possibly supplanted Fez as the easiest person to troll on these boards.

	02-12-2002 22:30									#138
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quote: he doesn't want to join the French Foreign Legion.

why not? they'll take you. the first couple of years are extremely hard though, hand you have to learn french.
on the other hand you do get french citizenship when you retire

	02-12-2002 22:33									#139
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Gangerwolf, Well there current missions are mostly peace keeping. I'd have to learn french, and take french mindset in doing things (like shaking hands first thing in the morning etc.). They're not like they used to be.
I have done some research, I'm not looking for cleaning the barracks for 5 years.

	02-12-2002 22:35									#140
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And besides, I don't want French citizenship. There's also lots of problems with discipline, because there are tons of people joining in from Eastern Europe, with no military backround. That is not what I'm looking for.

	02-12-2002 22:44									#141
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maybe this is something for you

http://www.executiveoutcome.com/

	02-12-2002 22:46									#142
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Gangerwolf, Yep, these are very interesting. I've been gathering info on these companies for a while now

	03-12-2002 01:11									#143
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quote: Serb has possibly supplanted Fez as the easiest person to troll on these boards.

Ya think?

	03-12-2002 02:23									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Serb The Crimean War, The Russo-Japanese War, WWI, & the present day are signs of the historical shitiness of the Russian military machine. WWII was a high point for you.

The great Soviet Union will live through the ages, the dream of a people their fortress secure......

	03-12-2002 02:38									#145
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Gangerwolf, Yep, these are very interesting. I've been gathering info on these companies for a while now

you do know that they work for evil corporations and corrupt regimes?

	03-12-2002 02:42									#146
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Gangerwolf, Sure.. but if it's the last option, why not.

	03-12-2002 02:44									#147
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And the rest of them are not? Come on.. no one is innocent. Besides, I rather defened some rich guys diamonds and fight some rival guerillas, than some religious war. Though I'd do both . But I wouldn't go 100% against my beliefs. I have some ethics that I will never brake.

	03-12-2002 07:32									#148
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Great thread. This is actually the perfect anti-war thread, haven't you noticed? It shows perfectly that all wars are FUBAR.

Btw, I've been watching "Saving Private Ryan" on TV tonight. That's an antiphatic film, isn't it? It's confusing the anti-war element with classic patriotism. It seems that the scenario has been rewritten at some point. The "Thin Red Line" appeals to me much more...

	03-12-2002 07:47									#149
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quote: Originally posted by axi Great thread. This is actually the perfect anti-war thread, haven't you noticed? It shows perfectly that all wars are FUBAR. Btw, I've been watching "Saving Private Ryan" on TV tonight. That's an antiphatic film, isn't it? It's confusing the anti-war element with classic patriotism. It seems that the scenario has been rewritten at some point. The "Thin Red Line" appeals to me much more...

I can't think of a better war movie than Saving Private Ryan. It certainly doesn't glorify war. But at the same time it is very patriotic.

	03-12-2002 08:12									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 The great Soviet Union will live through the ages, the dream of a people their fortress secure......

Tass, this quote you replied...
It wasn't me who said this. It's DinoDoc. Please do me a faivor and edit it. It's damn painfull to see my name as an author of such herecy as DD bullshit.