19-01-2003 05:52									#91
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As BM says, could be a glitch. But knowing you my money is on one too many happy-pops.

	19-01-2003 05:53									#92
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nah, i wasn't seeing helicopters.......

	19-01-2003 05:58									#94
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an expression for high intoxication or under the influence of mind altering states

	19-01-2003 06:23									#95
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That is a new one on me. Filed for future useage.

	19-01-2003 06:30									#96
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actually it comes from the movie goodfellas....

	19-01-2003 06:37									#97
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War4, if you ever get one in one of our games, please let us know. I've never heard anyone complain about one. And with Ming, you know he'd whine about it.

	19-01-2003 06:42									#98
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funny thing , i thought it might have been just a couple of weeks ago.....

	19-01-2003 06:45									#99
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It had to have been in a game with someone else. I've never hosted a game less than raging or deity.

RAH

	19-01-2003 06:49									#100
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i thought maybe you messed up and had restless

	19-01-2003 06:56									#101
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Since it remembers your settings from the last game, I highly highly doubt it. The only thing i ever enter is the map size and the only thing i ever change is the # of players.

	19-01-2003 15:45									#102
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Well War plays a wide range of settings.......he probably remembers it from a game with a different group.

	19-01-2003 22:51									#103
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yeah, that is most likely it..unless it was with graag, and i lowered the barb settings to give him a chance

	28-01-2003 05:36									#105
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or if i played one of my king x2x2 games.....after all i do play all settings....unlike some of the "kings" around here

	28-01-2003 18:46									#106
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I play most of the other settings also.
It's just that I do it infrequent enough to remind me why I don't play them more often.

RAH

	31-01-2003 02:44									#107
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Geeeeeeee.......

The denominator of 93 is a little odd. I would guess that gaps were divided by 100. By wrapping at 100 Alphabet obviously will get a larger chance than wrapping at 93.

To put this theory in use. If one player finds a hut, he puts down a city near it then give a unit to another player, who tips the hut, then it will be either a NONE unit, a scroll, or gold.

	31-01-2003 04:20									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Xin Yu To put this theory in use. If one player finds a hut, he puts down a city near it then give a unit to another player, who tips the hut, then it will be either a NONE unit, a scroll, or gold.

Xin's back.

	31-01-2003 06:21									#109
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Xin's back.

Yes, after finding out that Civ3 now sells for less than 20 dollars.

	31-01-2003 14:42									#110
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Good to have you with us again, Xin.
Can we interest you in Succession Games?

SG[1]

	01-02-2003 02:59									#111
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SG[1], I need to pick up the civmanager project and make it a lot better, like, can set up a route for moving troops automatically. It probably will take a while.

	01-02-2003 03:37									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Xin Yu It probably will take a while.

Hello, Xin!

Can I interest you in FW scenarios after that?

	09-06-2003 07:52									#113
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*Bumped* for us folks in Demogame #3, looking for Monarchy out of a hut.

	07-07-2003 16:48									#114
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We can easily reconcile the numbers from the studies of both Solo and Samson, and incorporate Xin Yu's observation about the denominator of 93 being odd, whereas 100 makes more sense. To quote Xin, “The denominator of 93 is a little odd. I would guess that gaps were divided by 100. By wrapping at 100 Alphabet obviously will get a larger chance than wrapping at 93.”

When I examine my rules.txt file, I notice that in addition to the 90 game techs and 3 User Defined Techs, 7 Extra Advances are also listed; bringing us to a sum total of 100. I think, if I understand Scouse Gits' programming comments properly (with my own inferences), the civ2 program should read the entire contents of @civilize from Advanced Flight all the way down to Extra Advance 7.

When Samson calculated his 7/93 for Alphabet, he obviously skipped the 7 Extra Advances. The ratio should have been 14:100 (I actually count 15:100). Using Samson’s original numbers and correlating them to Solo’s test percentages we find this:

Tech Samson Solo
Ceremonial Burial 1 1%
Alphabet 7 16%
Bronze Working 7 7%
Masonry 11 10%
Pottery 18 18%
Warrior Code 22 22%
Horseback Riding 27 26%

That everything correlates exactly except for Alphabet (As Solo pointed out).
Yet, if we adjust Samson’s ratios to include the 7 Extra Advances we find this:

Tech Samson Solo
Ceremonial Burial 1 1%
Bronze Working 7 7%
Masonry 11 10%
Alphabet 15 16%
Pottery 18 18%
Warrior Code 22 22%
Horseback Riding 27 26%

An exact correlation: as each item in Samson’s list increase, so do Solo’s percentages increase in his list.

The conclusion, Samson’s work is verified, reconciled with Solo's data compilation, and his ratio's are adjusted to their correct limits.

	07-07-2003 17:45									#115
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Nice work.

	07-07-2003 17:53									#116
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You guys are amazing.

well done

	07-07-2003 19:46									#117
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Sirsnuggles,

This sounds just right to me, since my percentages were based upon a larger sample than Samson's. Your explanation confirms his theory and the results of both tests. Nice work!

	08-07-2003 00:27									#118
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quote: Originally posted by sirsnuggles When Samson calculated his 7/93 for Alphabet, he obviously skipped the 7 Extra Advances.

Not quite.

I tested hut outcomes under version 2.4.2 which does not include the 7 Extra Advances. 93 is the correct denominator for that version.

The 7 Extra Advances exist in the MGE version which, presumably, is what Solo used for his testing since his numbers correspond to a denominator of 100.

	08-07-2003 00:43									#119
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The Extra advances are included in FW, and I think CIC. I can't remember about 2.42, though, and I can't find the original cd. I remember them being there a long time ago. Perhaps you were using the updated FW version (with a patch or something).

	08-07-2003 01:59									#120
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2.42 is a patch, to the original Civ2 version. The original CD does not include the 7 extra advances, nor does CIC (version 2.62).

The point, good sir snuggles, is that the denominator is determined by the number of techs defined under @CIVILIZE. I should have checked to see if these differed by version when Solo and I first noticed our discrepancy.