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Bereta_Eder is offline Bereta_Eder
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They were blowing up bulldings after the brits refused to give them independance

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brit colonial buildings that is

of course sometime there was some dishonorable acts. but that was during greece's US/UK backed dictatorship.


turkish invasion was brutal unjustified and is condemned. not to protect turk cupr. but to take that island for their own.


and youre still a DL

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and it is called (repeat after me)

national liberation struggle.

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national liberation struggle.


That implies a BETTER government, not a worse one
which is exaclty what they got, along with a divided
island. If they had followed LEGAL methods they would
have got a united island and good government. Just
like they got rid of the tribute. Murder and terroristism
if successful just puts in a dictatorship run by criminals.
Happens all the time, does'nt mean we have to laud
the murderin' bastards.

Your "national liberation struggle" just scew up innocent peoples lives for their own egos.

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they did get a better government. their own government which made the rich.

the british yoke had made them dirt poor.

its all in prvious posts DL

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Rich? they are'nt frickin' rich, well maybe compared to greece they are.

Refer the the previous post, the British laid in a modern inferstructure, The TOTAL taxes of the whole frickin' island was only 100,000 pds.

They build Hospitals, ended diease, famine, locusts saved both Greece and Cyprus thrice in the last hundred years.

And this is the result. No, wonder they got out of the world power business, pretty stupid blowing money and lives saving ungrateful people from their own stupidity.

Oh, quit blaming the US and Britain for YOUR dictatorship, you had a dictatorship before WW2 and
you were so f**ked up you had one after WW2. In
fact you were the ONLY allied country that did have
one after WW2. You would have one NOW if it wasn't
for the US.

Try reading a book for your facts, instead of just spouting off taboild headlines and jingo phrases.

DL right back at ya, whatever that means.

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DL, the dictatorship was backed by the US and the UK

Brits with thei yoke had condemned Cyprus to poverty and hanged 15 years old.

Spain and Portugal had dictatorships that lasted for decades. In just 7 years we had overthrown your murderous dictatorship. but not before it did big damage to both Greece and Cyprus. When the brits were thrown out of the island, Cyprus flourished even if it was invaded (and lost 70% of its natural resources) with your complicity, pathetic revengful little colonial scum blown out of the sky.


And you are off of Cyprus.


Choke on it and quite boring me with your pathetic and weak colonial spirited crap. Everyone knows it's bullsh!t, DL.


Get a life.

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Oh and Cyprus is not just ricjh. It's the richest of all new EU countries. All money made by their own.

That's what happens when you throw the leeching murderous 15 year old boys hanging brit gays off your back.

Let this be a lesson to you and change your relic way of thinking.

You already have, make more progress.

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This thread is a Paiktis troll-fest and needs to be closed.

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Of course it is not.

When faced with that colonial pathetic weak crap Im going to reply.

IF someone is trolling its this little DL.

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Paiktis: Your not going to change anyones mind. I've learned that through varios russophobic pro-lithuania/poland/america threads....Their minds just can't be changed no matter how much logic you give them.

Thats fact.

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Fair enough.
I think so too.
In any case if time permits I'm willing to reply since his arguments are so pathetic.

But you;re right its mostly a wast of time.

But I'm downloading MP3s in the meantime anyway

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Oh yes Tassadar, you are trolling yourself and saying that Paiktis is trolling? Your open insult on me and Herreson proved that (I mean saying that we are some "Russophobics" and that "our minds can't be changed"). Anyway, after all you Russians did to us we've seen true face of that nation. It's not Russophobia, it's just being aware of actions of that country. We were occupied 3 times, jointly for longer than 150 years. It is only 12 years since last independence. And you are saying we should not be aware of Russians?

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quote:
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Spain and Portugal had dictatorships that lasted for decades.


Who the hell is talking about them? I wrote ALLIED countries, not uncommitted neutrals. Are the British
responsible for them too?

Seems everyone else is responsible for Greek problems,
of course i'm sure if you didn't have the British/Americans
/Turks to blame you'd pick a name out of a hat.

"My country right or wrong" is closeminded and does'nt
serve your country well.

@Tassadar5000

Your surprised that lithuania/poland people are Russophobics? Don't forget the Finns, I'm sure they hav'nt forgotten the Russians.

I know Paiktis is trolling, but his wimpy replies are
amusing, the long he goes the more assinine his
posts become.

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Sorry, but "Macedonia" is a Tito idea, they are slavians, a correct name should be (at least) Slavja Makedonja or better "Vardaria" (Vardaska in vardinian language). They are the mix of the Dardamans and southern slavians that came in this area in the V/VI centuries.

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I prefer 'Dardania' more classical.

And modern too, after all the Dardanians and Macedonians kept fighting....

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Yep, but must be Slavjan Makedonjans who decide this

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Oh yes Tassadar, you are trolling yourself and saying that Paiktis is trolling? Your open insult on me and Herreson proved that (I mean saying that we are some "Russophobics" and that "our minds can't be changed"). Anyway, after all you Russians did to us we've seen true face of that nation. It's not Russophobia, it's just being aware of actions of that country. We were occupied 3 times, jointly for longer than 150 years. It is only 12 years since last independence. And you are saying we should not be aware of Russians?


Western people have idealistic and pretty dumb idea of Russia. It dates since Enlightement and Voltaire. Once, asked why He writes such things about Russia though He knows it's not true, he replied; because empress Catherinesent me xx number of fur coats, and I am so afraid of colds.." oslt. Cynical reply, but I guess true.

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Western people have idealistic and pretty dumb idea of Russia.
Most of us know it is a crap country parading around with a less credible democracy than Turkey.

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DL, ozz, you got hit in the ass withmy replies.
And replied nothing of substance apart from some hazy colonial propaganda which is childislhy easy to see that is a lie and a relic of colonial spirited crap.
And while I recognzie errours for greece you have repededly failed to recognize grave errours from the UK and of course the turkish murderous assault. Mistakes which are recognized by everyone else except you.

that's ok.
Good thing you're off Cyprus, you can die crying and whining.
DL

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I prefer 'Dardania' more classical.

And modern too, after all the Dardanians and Macedonians kept fighting....


When I was in Kosovo all the Albanians kept claiming they were the ancient Dardanians. There were a huge number of places named Cafe Dardania, Hotel Dardania, Restaurant Dardania, etc...

Of course they also claimed to be decended from the ancient Iyrians as well.

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And while I recognzie errours for greece you have repededly failed to recognize grave errours from the UK


UK has done some rotten things, true. In Canada (Breaking treaties, stealing native land), India (salt taxes) China (opuim wars), Africa (Boer War), and thats just a few. Not in Cyprus though, they're record is pretty good there. They didn't expiolt cyprus, it was just another naval base (like Malta, Gibr) on the passage to India. If they did want to milk Cyprus they wouldn't have charged a petty tribute like 100,000 for the whole island, I doubt that even covered the administation costs.(ie police, courts road building, port maintenance........ etc.)

I'm sure my own/your own government has done worst things to it's own people than the UK did while governing Cyprus.

I just don't think the UK is guiltly of "colonial" crimes
in this case. I believe it was a case of mainland Greeks
stirring up the Island Greeks.

All they needed to do is lobby London, they would have become a self governing colony (like Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, South Africa, Newfoundland etc) and by 1950 (1930 more likely) they would have been independent and united.

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quote:
Your open insult on me and Herreson proved that


I simply said that Russophobia is quite common in certain pro-lithuanian/polish/american threads....I never specifically mentioned you two at all.

quote:
Anyway, after all you Russians did to us we've seen true face of that nation.




Should a person from Chile say they know the true face of America? The American people are much better than their government....Just as the Russian people are much better than their government. Try not to blur that distinction.

quote:
It's not Russophobia, it's just being aware of actions of that country.


No, it is Russophobia. Senseless attacks upon the Russian people prove these things.

quote:
Your surprised that lithuania/poland people are Russophobics?


No. Not at all. I'm just saying its stupid.

quote:
Don't forget the Finns, I'm sure they hav'nt forgotten the Russians.




quote:
Most of us know it is a crap country


I think this right here proves the Russophobia rampant around Apolyton. A baseless attack on both the government and the people of Russia....

quote:
parading around with a less credible democracy than Turkey.


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Tassadar, why do you say Russian people are good? I do seriously doubt that. Most if not all of Russians I've ment and know in my life were ussually quite bad persons... BTW, currently Russian people themselves elects government yet they elected fascist as a president (his actions against Chechnya, also against all other religions except orthodox, proves that). Also, communist regime would never happened if not support from Russian people (you can argue that Stalin was Georgian, but he was actually supported by quite many Russians).

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I simply said that Russophobia is quite common in certain pro-lithuanian/polish/american threads....I never specifically mentioned you two at all.



Aren't we one of few Poles and Lithuanians here, and one of even few ones who post about Russia?

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Tassadar, why do you say Russian people are good? I do seriously doubt that. Most if not all of Russians I've ment and know in my life were ussually quite bad persons...


As Serb

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As Serb


True, true, very true...

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Yeah... Where is He anyway?

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I've seen his post today somewhere...

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Very interesting, to see things from different angles, like here

 
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