07-04-2003 03:38									#121
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So what about the border agreement then?
Is it gonna be broken by us, or by them?

	07-04-2003 03:44									#122
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quote: Originally posted by astrologix I'm wondering if it is currently wise to settle that north area, because we risk to upset ND. They need lands to settle, because the north is mostly claimed by GoW. Doing so, maybe we will plunge ND into a war against us too quickly.

And then letting them have those lands?!
I think that would be a big mistake, sire...
We should perhaps send the diplomat to them and discuss
this old agreement first.

	07-04-2003 15:20									#123
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quote: Originally posted by ThePlagueRat And then letting them have those lands?! I think that would be a big mistake, sire... We should perhaps send the diplomat to them and discuss this old agreement first.

I've revised my position. I think we must settle that lake city, with the settler from Toledo.

You are right, we should know what is the status of that old agreement, and certainly our diplomats should work it.

	07-04-2003 16:04									#124
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Very well Señor Generalissimo... and if we need the situation with ND to escalate, we might send a diplomat who can act kinda rude and press them out of that area. Diplomacy can often work slowly I guess, so we will have plenty of time to prepare before a war breaks out... Or we can renegotiate a border deal, if we want to pretend we are their friends.

	07-04-2003 16:24									#125
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If we take this lands we don't need to go to war with them. If the confrontation exists don't flee from it, but don't go for a gratuite confrontation.

	07-04-2003 22:15									#126
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There is not settlement agreement. We proposed to give them the North Valley, they never agreed to it. This was prior to Lux's destruction. Now that Lux is gone they seem to be eyeing all of Old Luxia. We could move into this area, but we should be warry to not move too quickly into an area we can't protect ... and spread our defenses thinly along the border.

--Togas

	01-05-2003 02:47									#127
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I'm making this proposal in hopes that other's will make their propsals also. More ideas mean a better chances for Spain to come out on top.

The way I see it, there are many tiles already overlapping. But you don't need many cities to over size 20 either, so that's not a bad thing since many bonus tiles can be switched around to give Spain the best use of it's total population.

In my image, I can see moving city "1" SE one tile and City "2" NE or E one tile also.

If you have some ideas put them up here. Don't be shy.

Also Togas has a map of proposed sites here , just scroll down to the last pic, you'll see it.

	01-05-2003 03:20									#128
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Looks sensible to me.

We already have settlers on the way to 6, X, and 1, iirc.

For the rest I would recommend the following order of settlement: 3,5,7,8,9,4,2.

	23-05-2003 11:12									#129
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Here'a a dousy of a Map that we just obtained from GoW!!

I made it into a "Whole World Map"

Here's a 800 x 400 picture

Here's a link for theBig Moma

Last edited by BigFree on 23-05-2003 at 11:26

	08-06-2003 04:52									#130
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This is the updated cities layout map, following the proposal of our King Togas.



The cities have been tagged following the chronological order of foundation, it is only a suggestion in the case of the ones yet to come (the idea is colonizing the coast first and then filling the gaps, except for cities 12 & 13).

(#) (Name)
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12 Mérida
13 Valladolid
14 Santander
15 Murcia
16 Cádiz
17 Lisboa
18 Córdoba
19 Albacete
20 San Sebastián

Some thoughts:

City #12 connects Sevilla to our territory. It is in a good place to grow and maybe could supply one or two settlers to the south...

City #13 could be N of this current position, between the mountain and the silk. It would give us control over the jungle, but at cost of more distance to Pamplona and less production/growth until the jungle is cleared.

City #18 is a good place to build the Forbbiden Palace.

Last edited by Fibrizzo on 08-06-2003 at 05:13

	08-06-2003 06:34									#131
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Hmm, I tought we planned to build the FP on the capitol of one of our enemies...

	10-06-2003 19:38									#132
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Good job, Fibrizzo !

	10-06-2003 22:18									#133
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As I could not find a suitable thread to post it, I post it here... this is the real , full painting of Santiago, as most of the Painters only paint governamental buildings and rich people´s houses... here is it, with even the slums and all.

Hope you guys enjoy it.
Nuclear Winter

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	10-06-2003 23:21									#134
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Nice painting. Is it a Salvador Dali?

ooc:
Btw, I find it alarming that these expansion plans allowed ND to settle the whole valley in the north. We could have taken both the north and the south... Now it's too late.

	10-06-2003 23:34									#135
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Here is a portrait of a Spanish princess.
Enjoy!

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	11-06-2003 01:58									#136
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Thanks Astrologix!

I have been thinking about the open space north of Pamplona... now that ND has expanded NE the only place we can take is between Zaragoza and Toledo.

A new city placed there would be at distance 2 of the two cities (our troops could move without detection of ND's annoying border patrols). Moreover, It would protect our capital and the silks resource west of Toledo.

The turndown is, as stated in the previous post, the jungle itself. The southern tiles of the proposed "f" city should be cleared, maintaining the others to slow Ansars / Riders advance.

	11-06-2003 03:03									#137
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I've been thinking of relocating city "13" ... moving it to location "f" is a very good idea.

It's not an urgent city, and will require some pre-development, but we should probably build it before ND builds in this region.

--Togas

	11-06-2003 03:36									#138
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Good job Fibrizzo, I like "f" better than "13." "13" won't allow Toledo or Pamplona very much room for growth.

	11-06-2003 18:51									#139
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I agree, settling the south is far more important that building on "f" spot now.

The thing that concerns me is that if ND builds near there could get the silks resource and if we retaliate It would be an excuse for them to attack us...

	11-06-2003 21:04									#140
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I agree too. Settling the south will give us more resources, food and production.

Now it's too late for the competition of the north. Only way is to use force. We were to slow...

	25-06-2004 10:48									#141
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Ah, those were the days....

For what it's worth, a screenie I was taking the other day.

EDIT: I'm tired of wrestling with how to display an Upload image. I give up.

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That filename is too long, else this would work 0.o

Try this:

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	25-06-2004 20:02									#142
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Yes, it was a happy time then. Ah, the days of the church dominance and of the civil wars between the monarchists and the republicans. The nationalism was very strong then. Oh well, we can be proud on a rich history.

Hey Señor Mitchell, the page your link leads me to shows "File does not exist."

Aidun

	26-06-2004 20:47									#143
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I know. Remove the

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part from the URL
(make sure not to remove any of the _s though)

	28-06-2004 18:04									#144
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Fixed your image.

I think I had long given up by this time. Too confused by Roleplay, ironically enough.