22-07-2003 01:23									#271
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The teachings of Cathol It's always better with a little Eddie.

-Arrian

	22-07-2003 05:34									#272
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I am assuming my roleplay for Roleplay is OK? I'll be sending that to History Guy in about 20min unless I hear otherwise.

	22-07-2003 05:38									#273
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus I am assuming my roleplay for Roleplay is OK? I'll be sending that to History Guy in about 20min unless I hear otherwise.

sure

	22-07-2003 19:49									#274
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heh... if the pope is going to make all baptized people into cardinals, he might end up with just as much cardinals are there are believers in Egypt

These guys do take their roleplay seriously, though. Phew, is History Guy in real life learning for priest or something?

DeepO

	22-07-2003 20:13									#275
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So if we convert to Catholicism now, who's ring do we have to kiss? Theseus' or Frater Ralphus?

	23-07-2003 06:14									#276
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So, who else wants to use our new-found influnce in Spain to kick out Calixtus and install a Stormian in the Vatican?

	23-07-2003 06:29									#277
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"Power-mad Pope Frater Ralphus I re-launches the Inquisition, focused on rooting out the squid-eaters.

News at eleven."

	23-07-2003 06:58									#278
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Theseus. Ask if it is fitting that an order of crusading knights have a cardinal as their head?

Knights Templar?

	23-07-2003 07:37									#279
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Niiiiice.

"I humbly ask the honor of forming a Knights Templar..."

"Defender of the Faith"

"I am not worthy of any but a military role..."

Awesome. Tonight, maybe tomorrow.

	23-07-2003 19:21									#280
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Speaking of military matters, are we having RP shortrush pikes and stuff? If so, do they need a loan?

An extra pike or two could mean the difference between them holding and them falling. Needless to say, anything that buys us time to get our troops westward to help counter ND is worth our while.

Oh, and something else that occurred to me, though I think I posted it over on MZO, was the issue of Chivalry. There are 3 turns left on our NDA.

I see two options that I think are worth discussing:

1) Delaying giving RP Chivalry, and having them build some more horsemen.

2) Giving them Chivalry to upgrade what horsemen they have, and then, once we think RP is relatively secure, asking them to cut their iron supply and build some horsies/warriors/spears for upgrade. The moment it is needed, we can provide iron. Then *boom* all of a sudden, RP has a bunch of knights to assist the assault on ND.

-Arrian

	23-07-2003 21:00									#281
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Our agreement with RP stipulates that they send us their third luxury I believe, and as far as I know we don't have it yet. We need to get in touch with them to make sure they send it to us this turn, to counteract the loss of NDs (and coming soon, the loss of GoWs). That will give us 6 luxes in total (2 domestic, 3 from RP, 1 from Lego) with ND and GoW luxes unavailable to us for now.

	24-07-2003 07:50									#282
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RP has the save.

Gathering on Undernet.

/join #MilOps Right

	24-07-2003 09:01									#283
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edit: nevermind

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	24-07-2003 11:35									#284
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Can anyone please make a briefing of this chat for me when it's over? RL...

	24-07-2003 12:03									#285
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Don't have a log, but what I remember:

RP captured the catapults. Moved units into Inchon, and gifted it to us along with a peace treaty and ROP.

RP gifting Toledo to us after moving their units in.

Cut the road 77 of Salamanca with a Spear.

Give up Vigo for dead, leaving a Pike in it. The Iron Pike stays there, fortified. The other units in the area set up camp on the Mountain 23 of Vigo, cut the road there. Trying to keep ND from having a quick shot into the S.

RP rushes walls in Salamanca in case ND tries to bypass Pamplona and head S.

The W Galley keeps heading N, faking a landing and keeping ND at least somewhat honest. (ND is blocking some mountains with Pikes)

RP gifts the rest of their treasury to us, to keep from losing any if they lose a city. We'll gift it right back.

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Pray that ND goes for Pamplona this turn... 10 Pikes, 6 Med Inf, 3 Horses, 7 Catapults there. Zaragoza could fall this turn if ND focuses their troops on it. Unlikely though, and probably would end ND as a major threat offensively. Vigo is lost if ND attacks it.

	24-07-2003 13:10									#286
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Good chat, though I lurked for most of it.

The only thing I would have qualms about is letting them take vigo. I would have traded it to us and then GS disband it, maybe leaving a few mountain pikes to guard a further southern incursion.

Will be interesting to see what they (ND) do. The use of the offensive settler certainly shows that we are dealing with foes more able than vox.

The shifting of gold by NYE was a particulary excellent idea, not sure if he had done that before or not, but its great and not only will it prevent gold from falling into the wrong hands, it will make it seem like RP has no cash left for whatnot, a slight slight of hand.

Hopefully Pamplona will be Nd's little bighorn and not our alamo....


We need to tighten up our stories with RP a bit further it seems. Though they seem to have much looser lips than we, with GKs story and all. Though it probably threw them off the wrong track a bit.

Good chat. can't wait to see what the new turn brings.

	24-07-2003 14:11									#287
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See the RP thread - no way that ND go for pamplona this turn, since they probably have 3 uninjured ansars left in Leon, which isn't enough to strike for Pamplona.

EDIT: as nye has pointed out elsewhere, it is possible for an Ansar to get from Marlowa to Leon in 1 turn now, so there could be extra Ansars there to play with.

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	24-07-2003 14:17									#288
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Does anyone have the chat log? Otherwise, please ask it from RP... those who were unable to make it sure like to read what's going on

DeepO

	24-07-2003 19:51									#289
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quote: [Quote]However, I must warn you that apparently GodKing, of his own accord, told Unortho and MZ in chat that we'd received tech and some money from GS in exchange for the cities. He made sure to mention that GS was insistent on not breaking any NT agreements with GoW, however. Quite frankly, I'm not happy that this lie was shared with GoW as I'd preferred that we kept a single straight story

****. ****. Goddamnedmuther****er!

-Arrian

	24-07-2003 20:27									#290
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quote: GodKing, of his own accord, told Unortho and MZ in chat that we'd received tech and some money from GS in exchange for the cities.

Why the hell would he want to do that?

	24-07-2003 20:38									#291
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To confuse them. To convince them that the cities meant something to us, so they wouldn't attack them. I don't friggin' know!

All I know is that Godking needs a ****ing muzzle.

-Arrian

	24-07-2003 20:54									#292
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To confuse them into thinking that we're so stupid as to pay for the privilege of getting involved in this slugfest of war? He must be dumb if he thinks they'll buy that. It should be obvious to anyone that we're doing RP a favour (but only cause we think we can gain from it), not the other way round.

	24-07-2003 21:14									#293
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We need another chat with RP, this time focused around PR. Can we coordinate one for the next few hours?

	25-07-2003 01:25									#294
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We still need all RP troop dispositions.

[edit: I guess we already know as much about ND and GoW as we're going to]

	25-07-2003 02:49									#295
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I asked Togas on IRC.
I also asked for a chat to iron things out, particularly the GK-related incident (which RP isn't too pleased about either).

	25-07-2003 14:43									#296
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Could we please see a log of last chat? We're missing important information here...

DeepO

	25-07-2003 23:45									#297
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Sorry, DeepO. Coming up. I will put it in the RP 10BC thread.

	26-07-2003 00:59									#298
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Great chat guys... cannot WAIT for the save.

	26-07-2003 05:15									#299
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quote: Nautonnier, le Prieure de Sion

Not bad. Aren't that some kind of Templars or Freemasons, some secret plot to rule the world? Basically heretics, wouldn't this offend the pope? Just kidding.

	26-07-2003 05:30									#300
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Yeah, sort of the modern heirs to the Knights Templar.

Consipracy theory stuff... they wanna ROLEPLAY?? Come and git sum.