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chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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Okay, often I hear about flying the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia as an expression of Southern Pride. Okay, what the heck is there to be proud of? What is so great about Southern Culture? Heck, just what the hell is "Southern Culture?" What differentiates it from American culture? I'm honestly curious.

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I think it's the misguided belief that they're different from the rest of America in a good way.

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Southern Culture = Going out deer hunting, failing to shoot any deer, hitting a deer on the way back with your truck, and then eating the deer.

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Beleave it or not there are a great many good things about southern culture. They are generally more polite then the rest of the country, they have a strong sense of tradition, an even stronger sense of family & loyality, and best of all the women act more traditionally "femanine" then their northern counter parts.

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the south is everything thats wrong with america...go godless northern industrialists

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I know you like that Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Reserve, but still...

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and best of all the women act more traditionally "femanine" then their northern counter parts.


Very true.

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Am I the only one that'd love a woman with a career?

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Am I the only one that'd love a woman with a career?


If you live by the standards of 'Southern Culture', the answer is Yes.

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Heck, just what the hell is "Southern Culture?"

You've lived here all this time and still don't know.

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He lives in Florida, Dino. Jacksonville, even.

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I think I can define the most hated type of person on this forum and I am it.

Heterosexual white male conservative christian republican southern American.

Evil incarnate.

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Nah, I'm worse. I'm exactly the same but I've got a sense of perspective. Drives these kids batty sometimes...

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Okay, what the heck is there to be proud of?

Much better food? Especially if you count Cajun, which isn't really fair...

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Southern Culture = Going out deer hunting, failing to shoot any deer, hitting a deer on the way back with your truck, and then eating the deer.

That can't be southern culture, sounds just like Maine

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Okay, what the heck is there to be proud of?

Much better food? Especially if you count Cajun, which isn't really fair...

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Southern Culture = Going out deer hunting, failing to shoot any deer, hitting a deer on the way back with your truck, and then eating the deer.

That can't be southern culture, sounds just like Maine
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Change the deer to a moose and it sounds just like northern Quebec. Although you have to wait a couple of months until you're out of the hospital to eat your moose.

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White southern culture based on my perceptions:

1) White Southerners celebrate the mythic "lost cause" of the Civil War, while they are mystified as to why Southern blacks do not venerate the same mythic "lost cause."

2) White Southerners assume to be religious folk, but the preaching, "treat your neighbor as you, yourself, like to be treated" does not apply towards any minority group.

3) White Southerners mourn the days when blacks were happy to be slaves, until northern abolitionists planted propaganda in their ape brains, that they deserve freedom.

4) White Southerners are great at using political guerrila tactics by using high-sounding moral positions to preserve white supremacy by arguing for states' rights whenever racial equality is attempted.




Ok, in all seriousness -- racism and white supremacy is national, not regional. But there are definitely distinctive aspects found in white Southern culture, that is not found in Northern culture.

Thank God for that, because otherwise, we white Northerners would be as hypocritical and backward as white Southerners.

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You're not a very good troll, Mr. Fun. You need to learn to be more subtle.

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Heterosexual white male conservative christian republican southern American.


no wonder no one likes you

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Yeah, be more subtle like Dino. While you see him reach for the knife, he's busy stabbing you in the back with a spoon.

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I'm no match for you though, Starchild.

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Originally posted by MrFun
White southern culture based on my perceptions:

1) White Southerners celebrate the mythic "lost cause" of the Civil War, while they are mystified as to why Southern blacks do not venerate the same mythic "lost cause."

2) White Southerners assume to be religious folk, but the preaching, "treat your neighbor as you, yourself, like to be treated" does not apply towards any minority group.

3) White Southerners mourn the days when blacks were happy to be slaves, until northern abolitionists planted propaganda in their ape brains, that they deserve freedom.

4) White Southerners are great at using political guerrila tactics by using high-sounding moral positions to preserve white supremacy by arguing for states' rights whenever racial equality is attempted.




Ok, in all seriousness -- racism and white supremacy is national, not regional. But there are definitely distinctive aspects found in white Southern culture, that is not found in Northern culture.

Thank God for that, because otherwise, we white Northerners would be as hypocritical and backward as white Southerners.




In all seriousness, don't you find it odd that a Gay would continue to spout off about any other people at all?
Must be a Blue Belly Gay thing, as Red Jon and others aren't like you.

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I'm no match for you though, Starchild.


I know that's a lie but I prefer compliments over the truth any day.

*gives Dino a cookie*

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If you live by the standards of 'Southern Culture', the answer is Yes.


Nope.

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In all seriousness, don't you find it odd that a Gay would continue to spout off about any other people at all?
Must be a Blue Belly Gay thing, as Red Jon and others aren't like you.


Was that suppose to be a piece of humble pie? If so, you deserve an entire pan of humble pie.

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Originally posted by MrFun
White southern culture based on my perceptions:

1) White Southerners celebrate the mythic "lost cause" of the Civil War, while they are mystified as to why Southern blacks do not venerate the same mythic "lost cause."

2) White Southerners assume to be religious folk, but the preaching, "treat your neighbor as you, yourself, like to be treated" does not apply towards any minority group.

3) White Southerners mourn the days when blacks were happy to be slaves, until northern abolitionists planted propaganda in their ape brains, that they deserve freedom.

4) White Southerners are great at using political guerrila tactics by using high-sounding moral positions to preserve white supremacy by arguing for states' rights whenever racial equality is attempted.




Ok, in all seriousness -- racism and white supremacy is national, not regional. But there are definitely distinctive aspects found in white Southern culture, that is not found in Northern culture.

Thank God for that, because otherwise, we white Northerners would be as hypocritical and backward as white Southerners.



Distinctive aspects huh. Let me share a quote from "Battle Cry of Freedom".

quote:
Union conquests along the south Atlantic coast in the lower Mississippi Valley had brought large numbers of slaves into proximity to the Yankees. Many of them escaped their owners and sought refuge-and freedom- in Union camps.

Sometimes their welcome was less than friendly. While Northern soldiers had no love for slavery, most of them had no love for slaves either. They fought for Union and against treason, only a minority in 1862 felt any interest in fighting for black freedom. Rare was the soldier who shared the sentiments of a Wisconsin private: "I have no heart in this war if the slaves cannot be free." More common was the conviction of a New York soldier that "we must conquer & then its time enough to talk about the dam'd niggers." While some Yanks treated contrabands with a degree of equality or benevolence, the more typical response was indifference, contempt, or cruelty. Soon after Union forces captured Port Royal, South Carolina, in November of 1861, a private described an incident there that made him "ashamed of America": "About 8-10 soldiers from New york chased some Negro women but they escaped, so they took a Negro girl about 7-9 years old, and raped her."
from virginia, a Connecticut soldier wrote that some men of his regiment had taken "two niger wenches....turned them upon their heads, & put tobacco, chips, sticks, lighted cigars & sand into their behinds."
Even when Billy Yank welcomed the contrabands, he often did so from utilitarian rather than humanitarian motives. "Officers and men are having an easy time," wrote a Maine soldier from occupied Lousiana in 1862. "We have negros to do all fatigue work, cooking and washing clothes.


So you see I am quite impressed with my progressive and forthright northern cousins, Mister Fun.

jt

 
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