25-01-2003 21:33									#1
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OK, lots of you live in N.America, and as im planning on immigrating (damn immigrants) in the next year or so, I wondered where you'd recommend .. Id love to live in Canada, but either way, lets say Canada/US .. here's the kind of place im looking for :-

City, of reasonable size
Good size Indian population (S.Asian)
Plenty of IT jobs
Not too hot in the summer
Nice place to bring my 2 year old kid up
plent to do

Well .. Ive look at Toronto, and I like it there a lot, ive been recommended Vancouver also, but anywhere else worth visiting ??

	25-01-2003 21:37									#2
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Alaska

	25-01-2003 21:40									#3
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san francisco bay area...

although you might want to be sure you have a good job before you move here as the cost of living is killer.

but canada is nice too

i canada

	25-01-2003 21:41									#4
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quote: City, of reasonable size - CHECK Good size Indian population (S.Asian) - CHECK Plenty of IT jobs - CHECK Not too hot in the summer - CHECK Nice place to bring my 2 year old kid up - CHECK plenty to do - CHECK

Well, from your criteria, it sounds like the Bay area of California is the place you should be - it fills all of your listed needs. Of course, it is rather expensive (especially if you live in "The City" [San Francisco]) but the average income is also higher, so it's not that bad.

	25-01-2003 21:42									#5
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What can you buy for 250k in SF ?

	25-01-2003 21:43									#6
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MRT is correct, if you plan to move to the Bay Area, be sure to have job interviews lined up in advance....it will make your life easier.

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250k? in the actual city of san francisco nothing.

now if you get to the east bay(fremont, hayward, union city) there might be a 2 bedroom one bath.

	25-01-2003 21:45									#8
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In SF proper? Not much. You would have to start looking from (at least 500K). However, you can find homes for 250K on the East Bay, and possibly in the lower penninsula.

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Ohh if I go anywhere, I'll have a job lined up, don't worry .. I need a work permit anyway if I move to the US, Im able to move to Canada because I qualify for Emmigration (ie, Ive got over 75 pts on the form) , not sure how it all works for the US, but I can get a work permit, if I can find a job there.

	25-01-2003 21:46									#10
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MRT - we're on the same wave-length!

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Ha ha .. 500k, sounds like London, its exactly the same there also, Except thats 500k GBP

	25-01-2003 21:47									#12
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Well Viceroy, the Bay Area is the home of Silicon Valley after all....

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Boston. (Bahstan)

Great city, not too expensive, lots of IT jobs in area.

	25-01-2003 21:50									#14
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Yes thats true, oddly enough, id not considered SF .. I think I shall start routing around .. Are there specific area's where the S.asians tend to live, or are they spread out (In London they tend to live in specific Areas)

The reason I ask is, My wife is Indian, and where we live currently there are very few Indians, and she'd like to have more asians friends if I move ..

	25-01-2003 21:51									#15
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viceroy, most likely if you lived in the east bay youd be closer to your job. the east bay is directly across from silicon valley and there are 2 bridges that go across.

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Let me put it this way - My partner and I are currently renting a house (2 Bedroom, 1 Bath, Garage, Back yard - aprroximately 1200 SqFt) located in San Francisco proper. Do you know how much we're paying for rent each month?


$2,100.00! And that's basic rent - utilities are extra.

Yes, we are planning on buying a house - but it will either be on the East Bay or down around San Jose. SF is and exciting city, but the real estate cost for a home directly in the City is just rediculous.

	25-01-2003 21:53									#17
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Thanks very much, I'll look into that. Whats the average IT wage (for somebody with 5 years experience supp/dev) ?? any ideas??

	25-01-2003 21:54									#18
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heres an indian cultural webpage for indians in the bay area. http://www.thingsindian.com/orgs.htm

fremont seems to be pardon the expression, a mecca for the indian community

	25-01-2003 21:55									#19
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Actually Viceroy, the neighborhood were I currently live is probably around 75% Asian. I live in the Outer Mission District of the City. But the Asian population is actually spread out throughout the City.

	25-01-2003 21:55									#20
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San Francisco is a very nice city.

I live in Toronto, and it's quite nice too. Plus with the cheap dollar it makes it much easier to move. We also have lots of south Asians and IT jobs, and it isn't too too hot in the summer (though 30 C is not unheard of). But let me tell you there are days I really, really wouldn't mind living in San Francisco myself.

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My partner is an IT professional. His current job title is Senior Technologist. He works for the City of Palo Alto. His yearly salery (at present) is $94,500.00. He should be getting a $5-6K raise this summer.

EDIT: Of course, he is a government employee (since he works for the city of Palo Alto). If he worked for a civilian company, he would probably make more, but it's nice having the job security of a government job.

	25-01-2003 21:59									#22
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Yes, I loved Toronto, my wife was a little hesitant at first with -5'c (as it was when I was there last month) but I convinced her thats only really 2-3 months (hope I was correct ha ha ha).

East Bay, where exactly is that ?? Is that Albany etc ?? sorry, I have no idea

I actually went to the Gurudwara in Toronto out near the Airport, so I know Toronto's got a good Indian population.

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cushy government job for palo alto eh? where do i sign up? knowning my luck id work for east palo alto!

	25-01-2003 22:00									#24
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If you don't like the cold you should be glad you didn't come this past week. highs of -15 every day, -30 with windchill...

	25-01-2003 22:01									#25
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Blimey, thats a good wage.. British Airways pay peanuts.. I think my current wage would translate to 50k, so im looking for 60+ (to make the move worth it) (or 80+ Canadian)

	25-01-2003 22:02									#26
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Ha ha ha.. yes, I saw that on the "BBBrrr its freezing" thread

I don't mind it, but my wife absolutly hates it, like I absolutly hate 40'c in India ... either way, a month or two doesn't bother me too much.

	25-01-2003 22:04									#27
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east bay is where the star is...like oakland down to san jose. the jobs are in san jose, cupertino, palo alto, menlo park, mostly the south bay and peninsula

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad...esubmit=Get+Map

	25-01-2003 22:06									#28
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The East Bay is the area on the east bank of the SF Bay. Freemont is considered East bay (just north-east of San Jose).

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Perfect links MRT!

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Livermore also has alot of IT jobs.