19-07-2003 21:16									#241
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Sorry no, it's in the RP thread.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...999#post2172999

	20-07-2003 20:25									#242
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Just an idea.

I was looking over the chatlog of the three-way chat.

What if....

we have only discussed either us getting those cities that GS wants, or them. THey don't want to leave them to someone else for security reasons. We don't want them having a beachhead for security reasons.

What IF...we agree to making that a demilitarized zone?

GS gets the cities until the end of Lego. At that time they are disbanded, and only colonies are left on the lux. No settlement is allowed. I don't have the map at the moment, but we each make sure we all have that lux. IE, a colony for GoW, ND, and GS. 1 defender each or some such, and outposts to clear the fog.

Then, we would be able to see a landing, and respond as if it were an invasion. They would see ships and respond the same.

It is an idea, and only an idea. What do you think?

	20-07-2003 21:13									#243
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sounds fine to me

	20-07-2003 21:30									#244
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Excellent deal in several ways. We get what we want and so do GS. Also and perhaps more importantly it makes GS a coconspirator. Perhaps they will be willing to assist in this area. Our troops shouldn't die for their gains. I am very happy with the general dislike of RP.
Aggie

	20-07-2003 21:58									#245
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quote: Originally posted by Aggie I am very happy with the general dislike of RP. Aggie

That's RP's doing, not ours.

	22-07-2003 17:43									#246
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quote: Sorry for the delay in getting this to you. I do not know why zeit did not send this to you earlier. Certified true copy. quote: This contract is a declaration of a Non Aggression Pact between Gathering Storm and Glory of War. Neither team will engage in hostile activity against the other team for the duration of the contract. The contract becomes effective on turn 126, 50 BC and will remain in effect for a duration of 30 turns, cancelling after turn 156, 400 AD. The contract is considered Top Secret and will be treated as such by both teams and by their members. No memeber of either team is allowed to discuss the existence, or details, of the contract with anyone who is not a member of either Gathering Storm or Glory of War. Signed: Glory of War Team Ratified: Gathering Storm

	22-07-2003 17:45									#247
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Had a chat with NYE, Ill post a log when I get back home, sorry got busy with the SPDG for a minute, then that went to hell.

Nothing much, really.

GK revealed in the SPDG chat that RP was given Tech and cash for the cities. Take it for what it is worth.

	22-07-2003 18:30									#248
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There is not going to be a diplomatic solution to this.

GS want to war.

	22-07-2003 18:58									#249
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The chat that Unortho had with GS was continued by myself and then Master Zen. I'll post the rest of the chat log after Unortho posts his part of it.

	22-07-2003 19:00									#250
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YEAH....you guys spent hours....

Sorry, though, I had a serious situation that halted the SPDG, and kinda threw my mind off for a bit.

	22-07-2003 19:26									#251
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Read my other posts. ND is at war with GS and has taken Santiago. Let us too drop the gauntlet.

	22-07-2003 19:33									#252
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I warn against it.

Something about that chat tells me that's what they WANT us to do....

like they have the invasion fleet ready and waiting...

	22-07-2003 19:53									#253
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I agree with Unortho

They want us to take Bilbao
So they can invade GoW from the North
Then Attack ND

We have to leave Bilbao alone

	22-07-2003 20:35									#254
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Use our NAP with GS to our advantage. Take any RP cities that GS does not have, whilst ND fights GS. When our NAP runs out, we will be able to fight GS much more effectivly.

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	23-07-2003 17:42									#255
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Sorry, My home comp is kaput right now. Couldn't log on, boot up, or anything. Will try to figure out what's wrong tonight.

	23-07-2003 22:53									#256
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I doubt they have an invasion fleet ready: remember, RP gifted those cities to Lego first, then to GS which means that was a last-minute plan.

However, I totally agree that they want someway to kick ass on bob, so let's give in for a while and not succumb to their plans.

	24-07-2003 02:07									#257
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ok, I need to know if I can move into GS territory for this turn and next turn, before I send the turn on to RP.

	24-07-2003 02:11									#258
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Im out of commission on chats until I fix the home computer.

Best ask NYE directly in a chat yourself

	24-07-2003 04:03									#259
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So what are our moves ?
The whole stack goes into GS/Bilbao territory ?

Also...
After our moves, send a snapshot to ND, and direct their MI to Bilbao
Ask ND what city they are taking next...do they want a Vox investigation of the city ?

And does anyone know why Miller Town belongs to Vox ? I thought everything was given to GS the previous turn.

Regs

	24-07-2003 04:23									#260
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Stack moves... depending on whether GS will grant an ROP for 1 or 2 turns. We move onto mountain E of Bil. either this turn or next.

	24-07-2003 05:40									#261
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We should not ***** foot around GS.

What happens when the next city is gifted to GS ? Do we then have to re-negotiate another ROP.

Tell them we spit on their honour code, and do not recogize their ownership of the cities. We will not attack them, but will march straight through.

Regs

	24-07-2003 05:55									#262
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we're going to do that next turn if they don't give an rop

This turn we had to wait to let half the stack catch up.

	24-07-2003 07:01									#263
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I agree with Hot_Enamel

	24-07-2003 09:27									#264
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Dear GS:

We spit on your honour code. You are all a bunch of poo-poo faces. All your bobian cities are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.

Ha Ha Ha.

Best Regards.
-GoW is y0 d4ddi3Z

	24-07-2003 15:56									#265
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I don't think we should mention it, would definitely prefer we not antagonize them.

	24-07-2003 19:41									#267
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If Master Zen wants to post that in the main forum unofficially though, I think that would be a riot.

	26-07-2003 00:33									#268
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Just received from NYE:

quote: re Your request to cross the territory of Bilbao. We regret that we must deny permission for any forces to cross our territory, which has recently been enlarged to include Toledo. We are at war with neither RP nor GoW. We do not wish to advantage either side through access to that land. re UnOrthOdOx's memo of July 23. There is much to think on. He mentions concluding your current contract swiftly and embarking on a new one. Is this a serious possibility? What is required to conclude your contract? Our intentions re RP are not fully concrete as of yet. We are inclined to look favourably on a civ who has welcomed us to Bob. As of this point, our goals in the conflict would be to finish what other nations start. Respectfully nye cc GhengisFarb, Master Zen, UnOrthOdOx

	26-07-2003 00:34									#269
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My word what I wouldn't give to go back and never have had mentioned we intended to cross their space.

Proposed response:

quote: Really? We were unaware your territory increased, did Vox give you some new land? I'm standing with the Southern Army on the outskirts of Toledo and see no new GS territory...

	26-07-2003 01:07									#270
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don't answer him yet.