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I´ve been around a month far from contact with vox, should I start writing the Pm now we are about to contact them?
What should I ask about ?
Post here please!
Nuclearis Winterius the II
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of España
May 2002
time: 00:25
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oops - double post
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:25
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Nuclear Winter -- We do not YET have contact with Vox, but feel free to write them saying that we are negotiating to receive contact with them and would like to know if they would like to aquire any technology from us. You may offer them Mysticsm and/or Writing. Also find out if there are any "first tier" techs they need.
You also need to inquire, later in the message, if they will sell us contact with Gathering Storm.
jdjdjd and adaMada -- having both of you negotiate may be more complicated and confusing that it is worth. Ideally, we should end up with receiving contact with Vox, gold, and additional gold for the sale of Writing to GoW. If GoW keeps up its current removal pace, then in TWO TURNS we will do the sale of Writing to GoW, so any exchange should be targeted for around this time.
My preference is to buy Contact for LESS THAN WRITING. Writing is the max we should pay for it. As a note, 25 gold is not a sizeable amount, as it is what we receive every time we slay a barbarian village. However, it is what we have offered and it would be unfair to suddenly pull it back.
What we need to do is to get them to BID AGAINST EACH OTHER, telling the team with the higher price that the other team is offering us a better price, and seeing if they're willing to beat it. So I need you both working actively together on this.
I know adaMada's been very busy IRL, so if you don't hear from him by later today (or if he says he's too busy to actively negotiate) I want jdjdjd to take over as the sole negotiator for both nations so that there is no cross posts or mixed messages.
--Togas
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"The Iron" Stadium, Ubergorsk, Apolytonia (C3DG)
Mar 2000
time: 00:25
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I'm ready to open negotations, but if it'd be best for jdjdjd to take on both roles, I'm happy for him to do it. I's not a bad idea to have one person dealing with both sides -- adds an element of coordination that two people can't attain.
Anyway, if jdjdjd'd like to take on both roles, or if Togas feels that it'd be better that way, I'm happy to step aside. Meanwhile, I haven't either sent or recieved anything from GoW. GoW may be pissed over Togas' last message and may not be communicating with us, or Panzer might just be taking hte time to clear it with his team -- for all of Ghengis' fancy talk, it normally takes them just as long as everyone else to reply. Assuming GoW is negotating, our best bet is to convince both teams (perhaps by just telling them to ask each other if they don't believe us) that they really are in a bidding war. As long as both teams know that they'll either make the best bid or get nothing at all, they should be willing to go pretty low.
Anyway, no contact from Panzer yet. Will post as soon as something comes in, and I'll contact him once we've figured out what we want to say. We'll probably need to wait until BFM/Panzer's gotten back about the bids available to them before we can decide how to proceed, though :-\.
-- adaMada
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History Guy
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Reads too many books...
Oct 2001
time: 23:25
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My dear friend, Senor Picahulu, most wise, most brave, most excellent ambassador from the Great Sultan Borc, Lord and Wise Master of the Kingdom of Neu Demogyptica, the Lord of the Horizons,
Thanks for having me over for dinner at your lovely villa. The family is charming, and the food was incredibly good. The company was excellent, as always. I was quite intrigued by that impressive chicken you had fried for us, it was quite good. I trust the cheese was to your satisfaction as well, it was quite strong, in the good old fashioned Iberian style.
Anyway, down to business, the lot of the envoy. It is somewhat deplorable to have to interrupt dinner with it, but there we go.
We are very, very appreciated that you chaps, and the Great Sultan himself, master of all Arabia, lord of the Horizons, could come to speak to Milord Togas, Thane Lord of Spain. I must apologize for not being present, but sadly it was not possible.
We of the government of Spain have carefully reviewed the settlement proposal, as put forward by your government, and despite the merits of it, we were, unfortunately, ultimately unhappy with it. You see...way back in time, a group of settlers with a cheerful and highly politically incorrect song on their lips, and something very warm in their hearts, settled the region of El Valle De Los Torros, so named, as you can see, by the exceptionally big cows that live in the region. We have lived there now for millenia, it has been our home. The area is strewn with our sacred burial grounds, and the ruins of olden times. Our heritage is there, Spain is there, it was always that way. It would be a terrible blow to both pride and heritage if we were to cut it in half in such a way, to cede it away, along with our memories and our forefather's dreams.
Thus, we wouldn't easily part with it, and we ask, for the sake of our heritage, which we above all things hold most dear, that you allow us to keep it in the family, so to speak. I am sure you understand.
Secondly, we also think it prudent and wise to use this thick jungle as a natural barrier between our two civilizations, simply so that we may not be tempted to betray each other for land, not that this is on our minds in any way, I assure you. Is that not a prudent suggestion, however? You see, your proposal would put Arabian cities betwixt our own, and Spanish cities betwixt thine own. Thus, you see, it could prove a terrible temptation for us both.
Also, we think that the proposal is not good for you as well. You see, it only gives you two reasonable city sites, adequate ones, that is. Look to your east, however. There, before you, is a great, lush valley, devoid of man, left to itself, the abode of nature. Why not colonize these lands, most fertile, where many cities could be constructed, and your civilization would flourish? Please, think upon it.
I await thy response, fair and generous as they always are.
Hernan de History Guy Calamari the Younger
Ambassador from Togas King, Emperor of Spain, Overlord of the Visigoths, Flattener of the Vandals
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Orlando, Florida
Mar 2001
time: 00:25
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quote:
- Lux has captured a settler of GoW, they both confessed, but didn't seem offebsive to each other.
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[E_T> [Trip> Ghengis is upset that we captured their settler :P
[GhengisFarb> That's an ongoing joke, about the settler.
So It's a joke...
But I'm in Chat with GF now and he sent me a PM that he had also sent AdaMada. Here it is:
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GhengisFarb wrote on 08-02-2003 22:40:
Here's the deal I was trying to work up with Vox and Roleplay, but Roleplay wouldn't negotiate.
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Here was the plan.
(Our turn)
We sell you contact with Vox for 25 gold.
We pay Vox to give you contact with GS.
We continue to move our two Warriors north.
(Your turn)
You receive Contact with Vox from us.
You receive Contact with GS from Vox.
You give us Writing.
You now have the ability to sell contact with GS to both Lux and ND.
You also have the first chance to sell techs to GS.
In Conclusion
We get 25 gold now, Writing and Contact with GS on our next turn (since you would give it to us on your turn)
You get contact with Vox, GS, and the first opportunity to sell contact with GS to Lux and ND, and the first opportunity to sell techs to GS which should allow you to make some very lucrative deals.
Prior agreements still in effect:
Non-Aggression Treaty between Roleplay and Gow, expires ??
Roleplay cannot trade Horseback Riding for 14 turns.
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I'll post the chat log with GF soon...
Eta Tamali
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:25
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Surprise Deal Struck with Glory of War
After a surprise negotiation this evening with myself, E_T, adamada, and GhengisFarb present, we agreed to the following:
GoW accepts 25g for Contact with Vox.
We give GoW Writing on our turn.
GoW continues removing their warriors.
GoW pays Vox to give us contact with Gathering Storm.
If Vox does not give us Contact with GS, GoW and RP will not trade/give/sell anything to Vox until it does so.
GoW will not trade/give/sell contact with GS or Writing to anyone for 15 turns.
We will not trade/give/sell Horseback Riding to anyone for 15 turns.
GoW and Roleplay agree to a Non-Agression Pact for 30 turns.
All of these deals are as of 1790bc.
Negotiations with Lux Invicta for contact will now cease.
Additionally, Ghengis informed us that they wish to begin researching mapmaking. We verified that we were not researching it, but did not state what we were researching.
Ghengis claims that Lux has moved 2 warriors into Neu Dem territory and that Lux has propositioned GoW to join them in a war against Neu Dem. Ghengis says that a decision has not been reached yet about if his team will get involved or not.
Ghengis also informs us that Neu Dem has linked up iron and that Lux has not.
... there is a chance we could get screwed in this deal, if Vox does not give us contact with GS, but our anaysis was that it was a calculated risk, and one worth taking at the time.
Nuclear Winter -- Contact Vox and tell them how pleased we are that we will soon have contact with them. Inform them that GoW has informed us that they will be purchasing contact with Gathering Storm FOR us, and that we eagerly await receipt of contact from Vox.
History Guy -- You will IMMEDIATELY begin negotiations with Neu Dem for the sale of contact with Vox. Our asking price will be mathematics or 75g or 4gpt. You should also inquire with them about the state of affairs between them and Lux.
--Togas
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adaMada
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"The Iron" Stadium, Ubergorsk, Apolytonia (C3DG)
Mar 2000
time: 00:25
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For general reference, the complete text of the chat with GoW. This will serve as the deal itself -- Togas suggested (and Ghengis agreed) that we don't need an official document as long as we agree to abide by the chat itself.
-- adaMada
[edit by Togas to save space in this thread]
* EDIT by ada: Thanks Togas -- I didn't like putting it all here, but didn't know if you wanted a new thread on the subject. Will start a new thread next time. *
The complete log of the chat can be found here
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:25
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A late night chat with Trip of Lux brought the following to light:
(note: This is combined with information we learned from Neu Dem and GoW. This information is somewhat reliable, but as with anything told to us, it must not be assumed to be true)
Apparantly, Neu Dem and Lux were racing for the same city spot. It's unclear who built first (ND claims they did), but they now have twin cities, 2 tiles apart (one between them). Trip claims this site gives him horses and silk, so it was necessary to build there. Trip also claims that he has linked up horses to his empire, they plan to quickly grow (have settlers ready), mass horsemen and rush ND.
Trip claims that their PMs to ND are not being answered. He believes war is inevitable. He has sent warriors INTO ND territory to scout them out very recently ... probably to get an idea of what sorts of reinforcements ND could send to the front. Trip claims they have garrisoned 6 units in their "twin city".
This twin city situation is going to make peace impossible. E_T and I tried to discuss possible peace ideas and suggestions, but it seemed to fall on deaf ears. This war will happen. Trip may be hoping we'll join him, but it sounds like he's going to take matters into his own hands no matter what we do.
Ghengis claims that Trip tried to buy their services vs. ND. Ghengis could not say if they have accepted Trip's offer or not. Ghengis claims that Lux has been stockpiling cash for quite some time and has a large sum ready to be used for upgrades, however, they still do not have iron linked up.
--Togas
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History Guy
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Reads too many books...
Oct 2001
time: 23:25
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Here we are. Letter to Picahulu of Neu Theban...
Ah, my dear friend, Picahulu.
I first want to thank you for the most excellent dinner at your villa. When you come over to Madrid, I shall give you the same hospitality.
As it is, our government has recently made contact with a strange band of peoples who call themselves Persians, and they worship the 'Vox Controli', the One Voice, which they say comes out of the Big Mouth. Anyhow, they are quite an interesting bunch. Very interesting. Indeed, they all seem to be of one mind in accordance with one another...yes...as I said, it's all very interesting.
Anyway, we should like to know if your Sultan Borc would also like to speak to the One Voice? For small fee, we would be glad to introduce you to their ambassador, and you also could discuss the higher things with them...like the mysterious prophecies of the Vox Controli. So, how's about it? Will throw in some squid on the side, if you are interested. I'm sure the communications would be greatly rewarding and enlightening, as it is to all under the sun.
Now, about Mathematics...how's about either 75 gold, or 4 gold per turn for that little item? It's quite intriguing, we must say. The idea of counting always excited our chaps here, anyway. Would that be an acceptable price for it, do you think?
Finally, we'd dearly like to know what is happening where these Ottomans are concerned. From what we understand, they've been pressuring your government into a compromising situation. We're all very much interested in what occurs.
I await your generous and kind response.
Hernan de History Guy Calamari the Younger
Ambassador to Neu Demogyptica from Milord Togas King, Emperor of Spain, Overlord of the Visigoths, Flattener of the Vandals
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Arnelos
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of the Free World
Sep 2002
time: 00:25
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Had a chat with Vondrack and Nimitz from Legoland...
They told me:
- They should have Map Making in 9 turns. They plan to have their galley out the next turn. They will send their first galley NE toward what they believe to be GoW's SW coast. They will then have the galley move south along the west coast of our continent until they contact us. They will look for our border color. We estimate it will take them roughly 6 turns or so to reach our city if it's a straight shot from GoW coast to ours (which it probably isn't, so expect it to take longer).
- They are VERY interested in the story of Lux having a warrior next to an undefended GoW capital near gamestart.
- We agree that Lux probably extracted some sort of alliance or agreement for future services out of GoW for not killing them off.
- Vondrack believes Lux has miscalculated by trying to go to war with ND so early. We agree on that.
- Vondrack thinks that anyone building a wonder this early is making a big mistake. We agree on that 
- Legoland is looking at building perhaps the Great Lighthouse, as they may need it to reduce the chance of having to use suicide galleys (though that may be inevitable) to contact our continent.
- Legoland is even more worried about lagging techwise than before because of Vox-Lux connection
- Legoland would like to trade RP Team Map Making in exchange for Iron Working. I told Vondrack this sounded like a good deal.
- There are 2 bottle-neck areas of Legoland's continent
- Legoland's continent is made up of a rich northern grasslands where their cities are, a barren mountainous area to the north, and a huge jungle to the south that is hardly useful to them. There is a little bit of desert just south of the jungle on the very southern tip of their continent.
- Legoland only has a single luxury on their entire continent
I told them:
- Lux has a city right next to an ND city and they overlap on a critical tile with either a lux or resource (I don't remember which). This has made preventing a war more difficult. Lux obviously founded their city there on purpose.
- Lux has moved a warrior into ND territory right next to the ND capital, confirmed by all parties.
- GoW military seems to be relatively weak, with a number of their forces out scouting far ends of the continent in our territory our near Lux Invicta rather than at home and immediately useful in the event of war.
- ND is larger than Lux Invicta and seems to have a larger military. We doubt Lux's claim that ND has 6 units in the city near Lux, but we don't doubt that ND probably has a larger military and certainly more production than Lux.
- Lux and GoW claim that ND has linked up iron
- Lux had contact with Vox for a long time and were playing tech middle-man while pretending that the techs they were getting from Vox were their own research (while setting science rate very low and making money). Vondrack thought this was extremely clever of Lux Invicta.
- GoW now has contact with Vox and we do as well. GS has contact with Vox, so it seems only a matter of time until all civs are in contact with each other except Legoland... Legoland better get those galleys moving ASAP.
- RP Team would probably (I would think) want to help Legoland catch up in technology because of our technology alliance agreement... we'd like to work with the other non-warmonger civ on that tech alliance.
- GoW claims there is an island to their west (which would be north of Legoland?) and they are going to bee-line for Map Making in order to reach it.
- GoW has apparently started pre-building a wonder, which I personally think is stupid (Vondrack thinks it's absolutely suicidal and wonders if it's possible for GoW to be that dumb... doubts it). Vondrack and I both suspect that Great Lighthouse might be a possiblity to reach this possible island along with perhaps even sole ability to reach Legoland.
- We aren't doing so bad for luxuries (didn't name how many or anything)
- Our next city will be on the West coast on some silks. They should be able to see its borders if they travel a galley down the west coast.
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I told them I'd take their offer of Map Making for Iron Working to Togas. Togas... I'm assuming this is an awesome deal we'd love to take. However... just some thoughts from me... it may be in our interests (as I hinted) to get Legoland caught up in tech so they can participate in our agreed upon technology alliance and most favor trading agreement. Perhaps we could give Legoland some additional technology in return for some sort of slanted agreement for future relations or military capabilities in the future, etc. Just a thought...
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adaMada
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"The Iron" Stadium, Ubergorsk, Apolytonia (C3DG)
Mar 2000
time: 00:25
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Talked to Ghengis and Panzer for a very short time today. Ghengis wanted to confirm that we'd recieved contact with Vox, and I confirmed that Writing should be awaiting him (working under the assumption that the report was correct -- which it's always been before, so...). He asked if we'd started negotating with Vox yet, and I told him that we'd begun talking to them but hadn't made any deals yet. (Pretty obvious, since a full turn hasn't passed). One interesting thing that I noticed was that GoW seemed to have some negotations with ND going -- at one point in the poly chat a NDer (or someone who I assumed was one, anyway) said something about some GoW-ND chat to Ghengis, and Panzer later said something to Ghengis along the lines of "ND chat's still quiet -- nothing back from them." They seem to be negotating something, but who knows what -- might be important to take note of for the future.
Besides that, very routine chat, but I wanted to post so everyone knew what I'd told GoW.
-- adaMada
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:25
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I have sent the following PM to DeepO of GS as GodKing could not respond:
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DeepO,
This message is in response to the PM you sent to GodKing:
We have aquired Writing and are researching Literature, as GodKing informed you. We have only sold Writing to one other civilization, but are presenting negotiating with others for the sale of writing.
We now have contact with Vox, and have negotiated contact with your people. We hope to have acheived Contact with you by the next time we get the save.
We think it is wise to agree to research different knowledge so that we have something to give each other. We have experimented with future trade deals here on our own continent amongst our neighbors and ran into all sorts of struggle and pitfalls. It seems that as time changes and relationships change, future tech suggested trades become "promises" to one party and "mere suggestions" to another. Or (as we experienced with Lux) one party simply doesn't research AT ALL, they trade for the tech they promised to research (in exchange for the promise of our tech) and then pretend that they researched it themselves.
We think that it's best, for now, to just try to stay on different paths so that when the knowledge comes, each team can be sure to have something worth trading around. Hearing that you wish to research Philosophy or Code of Laws sounds like an admirable plan and we support it. We would be willing to pledge not to research those knowledges to allow you to have the first opportunity to sell them.
War is brewing in the north of our continent. Thankfully, we are not a part of it ... yet. We hope to stay neutral. There is great friction between Neu Dem and Lux Invicta over the founding of two rival cities a mere 2 tiles apart. Both sides claim that war is inevitable. We have tried to mediate and will continue to do so. We fear that the Vultures of War (GoW) will swoop in and feast on the carnage that is caused, taking in a great deal of money, territory, and technology in the process.
It would be unfair of us to suggest who you should trade with and who you should not, but I will share with you my personal experience with the other 3 nations in our land:
Lux Invicata -- make very reasonable offers, but are sly like a fox. Their scheme was only recently uncovered. For the longest time they did barely funded any research of their own, and lived merely as a knowledge middle-man, with a secret connection to Vox as their ace in the hole. GoW found this out and destroyed it by "stealing" contact with Vox and then selling it to us.
Glory of War -- very difficult to deal with, but surprisingly adept businessmen. If you can stand their boasts, threats, and insults (if you don't do what they want), you can often walk away with a decent bargain from these war merchants.
Neu Dem -- fair, but very quiet. They rarely communicate, but when they do, they are quite pleasant to deal with. Their lack of initiative has left them somewhat behind the rest. They take a while to get back to you.
These are my personal opinions. I hope that they will be of some use to you as your people venture forth into our very complex world.
Lastly, I would like to say that we look forward to future deals with your people. I am now searching my land for the best possible replacement for GodKing. Your representative will be one of our finest.
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Centre Bell
Nov 2001
time: 00:25
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I am the new ambassador to GS. As such, I have received my first PM from DeepO. Here it is
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Dear Togas and Ninot,
Welcome, new ambassador! I hope our relation will be as amicable as the one with GodKing. I'm not sure exactly how informed you are of what has been said between us, in Gathering Storm it is custom to keep a log of all diplomatic messages, so they don't get lost, nor violated. If you would be missing previous communication, I'm sure I can copy and paste everthing for you. In order to keep this tradition (and to avoid any legal 'poly problems), I want to declare you can quote all my PMs within this game in your forum, please declare the same and I can continue with this fine custom here.
Now, on to the reply of last message (which is why I'm sending this to Togas as well):
There was one misunderstanding in last message, in that GodKing didn't tell us before that you were researching literature, but it seemed an obvious choice for you. I'm glad that indeed, this is the case. I wish you good luck in trading it to other nations, and hope you don't get crossed again.
It pleases us a lot that if everything goes well, we'll be able to trade with you in-game very soon, breaking both Vox's and Lux's middleman position. This certainly makes researching mapmaking less urgent, so for the moment, we probably won't go down that path.
Researching different branches makes a lot of sense, and knowing we could probably get a deal between our two teams if we would go for the most expensive current techs is good, I'm sure that once we'll be able to start, we'll take this into account. There have been rumours of Code of Laws lately, as it is the most expensive tech after writing, and therefore probably has a high trade value. But, nothing definite yet, so I'll keep you informed once we made up our minds.
We have certainly a lot of sympathy towards your diplomatic problems, as we have experienced similar things with Vox ourselves. I can't 100% blame it on a bad attitude towards us, but the least I can say is that Vox has thus far not been very reliable, somewhat ignorant even of possible implications of their actions. As a result of this, we're currently working on what we call a codex, in which we describe what we expect from our diplomatic relations and what others can expect from us. Such diplomatic protocols seem trivial and self-explaining, but at least one team we know does not keep the same standards as we do.
It's pretty obvious stuff, like that diplomatic messages are secret, deals are only deals once they are ratified, and all deals need to be kept, even if the situation changes drastically thus disadvantaging one team. Renegotiations are possible, but unilateral decision of stopping a deal mid-term are not. We are very strict in this, so we can only hope that by enforcing it within our team, others will do the same towards us.
I hope, that by the time true tech negotiations can take place between our nations, you will have enough faith in us that we will never double-cross anyone within this game, or will at least try to the fullest possible extent not to do that. This does ask for precise agreements, of course, and for some formalized way of accepting deals, but those are exactly the points which we're currently perfecting in the Codex.
Also many thanks on your views on the situation on your continent, it helps a lot. Especially the situation with Lux is very interesting, as it is something we wouldn't expect from them. Sure, GoW and Vox are opportunistic by nature, but Lux...
It's certainly a noble goal to try to mediate between ND and Lux, not because either of them would not lose by a war (let them fight if they want to), but because of what it can do to world balance. The Vultures of War are certainly circling the skies already, and they are nasty and ferocious creatures. The world will need a lot of diplomatic effort to secure them into last position
Kind regards,
DeepO of Gathering Storm
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History Guy
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Reads too many books...
Oct 2001
time: 23:25
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A very very interesting message, my lords, carried by fast courier into the grubby paws of my servant, Gastronome Neecap, who delivered it in turn to me. Senor Picahulu sounds strangely tense to me, as if Neu Theban itself is very much bothered from all sides. I think they are really afraid that they will be swallowed up, and so, I fear, they shall be.
Note that they have contact with Vox Controli and that they wish to know what dealings we have had with Lux Invicta...
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Dear History Guy,
i am delighted you enjoyed your stay in Arabia and we hope to see you again soon in our beautiful lands.
We enjoyed our meeting with Senor Togas as well, although we didn't manage to create a contract regarding borders. I suppose you agree that this topic is very important in order to save friendship and good relations between our nations. That's why we must not stop negotiations.
Friend History Guy, i'm afraid i have to tell you that my people are very unhappy because your nation has founded Saragossa so close to our capital. If Spain should decide to found more cities around our capital i fear that my people may stop to believe in our bond, which is strong and valuable and shouldn't be endangered by such questions.
My people think that it would be quite embarassing if we wouldn't be allowed to settle south of our capital. Think of the corruption and waste in our cities if we are forced to settle far away from Neu Theben! I'm sure you wouldn't like Madrid to be the border city to the north as well.
In addition, our scouts reported that the southern part of the continent seems to be even larger than the north - and there are three nations who have to share the northern part, whereas the South is only occupied by Spain!
That's why we demand to get at least a part of our south. We're working on a detailed map, and would appreciate any proposal from you, which is fair to both of us.
I'm absolutely sure we're going to solve this problem, but we both have to be ready to accept a compromise.
We also appreciate your help to make contact with Vox Controli, although we're not interested to buy because we're in diplomatic contact with them since the beginning and already planned a meeting with them, far in the north of our homelands.
You've also asked for news regarding Vox Controli. I've just received a letter from them. They demand us - in an impudent tone - to move our scout away from unoccupied territory, which they consider to be theirs for reasons only known to Lux Invicta.
I'm sure you're also interested what they claimed about your nation: They treat that Lux Invicta will fight against us in an alliance with your nation, the Spanish, if we refuse to remove our scout! Of course we consider this to be an empty treat, as we still beleive in our friendship and - of course - in our NAP, nevertheless we would appreciate to be informed whether Lux Invicta tries to build up an alliance with you. We strongly advise not to coorperate with them because they have treated us since the beginning, and might betray you too. And - of course, Spain would be in an akward situation if Lux declares war on us.
History Guy, i have to find an end.
I hope to hear from you again soon, if you feel we should meet each other again to discuss further contracts, please let me know i'd be delighted to travel to Madrid again soon.
Best regards,
Picahulu, Ambassador of Neu Demogyptica
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As I have said, interesting letter.
Hernan de History Guy Calamari the Younger
Squid Baron
Ambassador to Neu Theban
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