14-02-2003 08:20									#151
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Here's ravagon ... it must be Friday.

Hrrrmmphhh. Another 10c wasted.

	14-02-2003 08:23									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Hey, we should organise a Civ2 MP game between a few of us rugby regulars. We could name our civs after the teams we support.

Actually that sounds like a rather good idea.
Although then there'd be an awful lot of NZ civs.

It might be interesting to see whether or not the style of civ-play mirrors the team in question...

	14-02-2003 09:19									#153
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Does anyone know what type of team the Renegades are? I remember seeing an article mentioning that one of the Super 12 sides had beat them, but I couldn't find any information on them.

	14-02-2003 09:21									#154
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Although then there'd be an awful lot of NZ civs.

To paraphrase Rick in Casablanca - not amounting to a hill o' beans.

	14-02-2003 09:23									#155
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quote: Originally posted by Bearcat Does anyone know what type of team the Renegades are? I remember seeing an article mentioning that one of the Super 12 sides had beat them, but I couldn't find any information on them.

Renegades? They're not a Super 12 team. I'll look into it.

Edit. The Bulls - one of the Springbok S12 teams - played a couple of practice matches against a team called the Renegades. The Renegades were a composite team made up of players who hadn't made any of the 4 Springbok S12 squads. I notice there's also a Canadian rugby team called the Renegades, but it wasn't them.

	14-02-2003 09:27									#156
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quote: Originally posted by finbar To paraphrase Rick in Casablanca - not amounting to a hill o' beans.

Just wait until you have them to the North, East, West and South of you. Then your little not-hill might start to look like a mountain.


Actually, how about renaming the wonders too?

Hanging Gardens ---> Tamerlin's Stash

	14-02-2003 09:39									#157
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Just wait until you have them to the North, East, West and South of you. Then your little not-hill might start to look like a mountain.

I'd imagine they'd just have the usual effect that beans have on a person.

	14-02-2003 09:46									#158
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Hey, wait a minute ...

	14-02-2003 11:42									#159
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Excuse you.

	14-02-2003 14:09									#160
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quote: The spirit was indeed there.

And I’m always game to give language a go – though I am very like Caligastia’s generic tourist most of the time.

quote: Nothing J**** says enters the equation because nothing he says ever enters my ether.

Have you not even noticed how diplomatic he is about the opposition. No bad for a guy supposed to be ‘thick’ really.

quote: What a fine idea. Presumably Havak would suffer frequent attacks of the "red mist" and earn yellow cards aplenty.

I probably would indeed. But are you ready for this heresy – I never got Civ 2 MP.

Good news for France – Dawson is out. That is excellent for them on two fronts – for Gomersall is from Glaws and also he is nowhere near the same calibre of player. With Healey and Bracken injured we are really scraping the barrel here.

In all fairness he is probably having his best season ever – but he has never convinced me as an international scrummy. And he has no loyalty – hops clubs far too often for a Tigers man to admire.

	14-02-2003 15:22									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Have you not even noticed how diplomatic he is about the opposition. No bad for a guy supposed to be ‘thick’ really.

He could recite the lyrics of "Smoke On The Water" and I wouldn't notice.

quote: I probably would indeed. But are you ready for this heresy – I never got Civ 2 MP.

Pourquoi pas!?!

	14-02-2003 18:15									#162
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Poor old Jonno - he would be devastated to know he falls under your radar.

Two reasons - I've never been hugely into MP games and also, becuase I sit on a very fast link at work I have only ever bothered with 56K dial up at home.

And you have to experience UK ISPs to understand how poor they are.

I must read back through Tamerlin's posts and research his solution.

	14-02-2003 19:57									#163
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon There are patches/mods aplenty out there to fix graphics should you so wish. Just don't grab any of Koby's. It could be a little disconcerting if finbars caravans happen to look like Borg cubes. (Albeit giving you the perfect excuse ).[QUOTE] Thanks for the tips... [QUOTE] Any idea which patch you used to upgrade (from FW?)? I tried one some time ago and ended up having to reinstall due to a number of corrupted files.

You will find the patch here:
http://hometown.aol.com/cedricgreene/mge.html

Download the 2.42 to MGE.exe to upgrade a Classic Civ2 updated with the 2.42 patch. It might be possible to update from FW with the MGE Zips file.

	14-02-2003 20:04									#164
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quote: Originally posted by finbar The originals remain the best, IMHO.

They were indeed very good... in 1996.

quote: Sorry, couldn't resist.

I knew you could not resist the temptation, my sentence was written for.

quote: I'll go online tomorrow - my Saturday - and keep an eye out for you on ICQ.

I can't play this week-end but we can test ICQ.

quote: Mais oui! Arguably America's first heavy metal band. Did their best work with Todd Rundgren working as their producer, IMHO.

My second revelation after AC/DC, I have looked for their records for almost 15 years and they are now re-edited by Capitol records. I prefer the first albums when they were a trio, more powerful and raw...

Grand Funk rules...

	14-02-2003 20:10									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Hey, we should organise a Civ2 MP game between a few of us rugby regulars.

Excellent idea though the hour difference between our respective countries will be a nightmare. I must admit my own weird time schedule could ease the whole process.

quote: We could name our civs after the teams we support.

Beware of the French flair!

I fear I am not good enough to compete for victory but I will do my best.

	14-02-2003 20:20									#166
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Actually, how about renaming the wonders too?

I declare war to the first who dares rename the Eiffel Tower.

quote: Hanging Gardens ---> Tamerlin's Stash

I don't have a garden as I would need a wife to tend it.

Manhattan Project --> Loss at Twickenham

	14-02-2003 20:24									#167
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This is probably my last post before the game so I would like to say good luck to France, may the best team win.

I truly and honestly believe that is England of course - Go you good England men go!

All together now:

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountain green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

Havka will return - win or lose.

	14-02-2003 20:32									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Havak And I’m always game to give language a go – though I am very like Caligastia’s generic tourist most of the time.

Keep the accent... a tourist must have an accent if not we feel it is not a real one and we could be wary of him.

quote: I probably would indeed. But are you ready for this heresy – I never got Civ 2 MP.

If you own a classic edition of Civ2 there is a patch updating the game to the Gold Edition here:
http://hometown.aol.com/cedricgreene/mge.html

quote: Good news for France – Dawson is out. That is excellent for them on two fronts – for Gomersall is from Glaws and also he is nowhere near the same calibre of player. With Healey and Bracken injured we are really scraping the barrel here.

An injured player is never a good news and we need no help...

	14-02-2003 20:41									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Poor old Jonno - he would be devastated to know he falls under your radar.

Finbar's sensors have locked the target since a very long time...

quote: Two reasons - I've never been hugely into MP games and also, becuase I sit on a very fast link at work I have only ever bothered with 56K dial up at home.

This is why I never bought the Gold Edition.

quote: And you have to experience UK ISPs to understand how poor they are. I must read back through Tamerlin's posts and research his solution.

Provider: Wanadoo (France Telecom)
Refunded ADSL modem and line creation costs
128k ADSL (the download speed is more or less 15 ko/second)
Unlimited access time
Possibility to easily upgrade to ADSL 512k without an additional cost (except cost per month of course)
30€ per month

	14-02-2003 20:57									#170
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Very nice song Havak.


And still no excuse from Ravagon...

	15-02-2003 06:45									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Finbar's sensors have locked the target since a very long time...

How long? At my birth, I'm told, the doctor whispered into my shell-like lughole - "Beware anyone whose nickname is the letter J followed by four asterisks". Who am I to argue with a medico?

Tamerlin - I'm online and my ICQ is waiting to hear from your ICQ.

	15-02-2003 06:54									#172
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Two reasons - I've never been hugely into MP games and also, becuase I sit on a very fast link at work I have only ever bothered with 56K dial up at home.

The simple solution, obviously, is to stop wasting so much money on paint and wallpaper and channel some of it into a home cable connection.

	15-02-2003 06:58									#173
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin My second revelation after AC/DC, I have looked for their records for almost 15 years and they are now re-edited by Capitol records. I prefer the first albums when they were a trio, more powerful and raw... Grand Funk rules...

Yes, the sound was a lot more raw in the early days. True of a lot of bands. Here's a bit of Grand Funk trivia for you - one of the original members, I forget which, was with a famous American one-hit wonder band called ? and the Mysterians who had a massive hit with a song called 96 Tears somewhere around '65 or '66.

	15-02-2003 07:00									#174
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quote: Originally posted by finbar How long? At my birth, I'm told, the doctor whispered into my shell-like lughole - "Beware anyone whose nickname is the letter J followed by four asterisks". Who am I to argue with a medico? Tamerlin - I'm online and my ICQ is waiting to hear from your ICQ.

Sorry Finbar I haven't installed ICQ yet and I can't spend some time on it now.

Saturday night won't be a good date, I think we can try to test the ICQ Sunday night.

	15-02-2003 07:02									#175
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Yes, the sound was a lot more raw in the early days. True of a lot of bands. Here's a bit of Grand Funk trivia for you - one of the original members, I forget which, was with a famous American one-hit wonder band called ? and the Mysterians who had a massive hit with a song called 96 Tears somewhere around '65 or '66.

I will find it!

	15-02-2003 07:28									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Sorry Finbar I haven't installed ICQ yet and I can't spend some time on it now. Saturday night won't be a good date, I think we can try to test the ICQ Sunday night.

You mean my Sunday night or yours?

	15-02-2003 13:59									#177
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quote: Originally posted by finbar You mean my Sunday night or yours?

I am afraid this is mine!

	15-02-2003 15:11									#178
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Okay! Your nights extend into the following day anyway!

	15-02-2003 20:13									#179
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Italy 30 - Wales 22

	15-02-2003 20:14									#180
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Some news before England - France:

Italia 30 - Wales 22

A pleasant game...