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Continuing from here (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=73955)

Britain (orange)
Ruler: foolish_icarus
Army: Very Large
Navy: Imperial
Air Force: Medium
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Commonwealth of nations lead by Briths Monarchs
Economy: Prosperous

France (pink)
Ruler: Thud
Army: Huge
Navy: Very Large
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Repubblic
Economy: Booming

Germany (blue)
Ruler: GeneralTacticus
Army: Gicantic
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous

Russia (brown)
Ruler: Frozzy
Army: Imperial
Navy: Huge
Air Force: Small
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous

Italy (green)
Ruler: Giovanni Wine
Army: Very Large
Navy: Very Large
Air Force: Small
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Growing

Austria-Hungary (yellow)
Ruler: Jack_www
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Dual Monarchy
Economy: Recession

Ottoman Empire (light blue)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Gigantic
Navy: Large
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Federal Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous

United States of America (navy blue)
Ruler: Sheep
Army: Huge
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Repubblic
Economy: Prosperous

Brazil (dark green)
Ruler: Easthaven I
Army: Imperial
Navy: Huge
Air Force: small
Space Fleet: N/A
Economy: Growing
Government: Republic

Argentina (light purple)
Ruler: civman2000
Army: Small (Note: This is only the size of what the navy has; if you add together the armies of all the generals it is Medium-large)
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Anarchy, the navy claims to be the government
Economy: Recession


Mexico (black)
Ruler: ?
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Repubblic
Economy: Recession

China (purple)
Ruler: WRangler Rhymer
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Repubblic
Economy: Growing

Japan (red)
Ruler: jdd2007
Army: Huge
Navy: Huge
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous

Cuba (sand)
Ruler: gooberboob
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Repubblic
Economy: Growing

Portugal (light yellow)
Ruler: Metaliturtle
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: Small
Space Fleet: N/A
Economy: Stable
Government: Repubblic

Note:
In the map there are shown some white nations.
This countries are not intended for playing.
Although if all of the nations above will be taken I will free up them on request.

Alliances in the world:
==Dead alliances==
Emperor's League: Austria-Hungary, Germany, Italy, Ottoman, Russia
BENEDEFRA Alliance: Denmark, France, Holland, Portugal
American Alliance: Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Venezuela
==Central American Protection Pact: American Alliance & France==
Anglo-Austrian Entente: Austria-Hungary, Great Britain
Balkan Alliance: Austria-Hungary, Italy, Ottoman
Asian Tigers Alliance: Japan, Siam, Philippines

Wars in the world:
January 1900 - July 1900: Paraguaian War: Argentina vs Paraguay: Argentina Wins
July 1900 - January 1901: Uruguaian Conflict: Brazil vs Uruguay: Brazil wins
July 1900 - January 1903: Central American Wars: US vs Central America and Carrabean: US wins, formation of UCA
July 1900 - January 1903: Panaman Rebellion: Rebels, Venezuela & Argentina vs Colombia: Rebels, Venezuela and Argentina win
(Venezuela and Argentina join the war at the side of Rebels on July 1902)
January 1901 - July 1902: Russian Conquest: Emperor's League vs Scandinavian Pact: Emperors win
(Denmark leave the Scandinavian Pact on January 1902)
July 1902 - January 1904: War of Manchuria: Japan vs China: Japan Wins
July 1902 - January 1904: Boxer Rebellion: Nationalist Chinese vs European Merchants: Russia & France Win
July 1903 - July 1911: Central American Liberation: American Alliance, France, Britain & Russia vs USA: Aerican Alliance Wins
January 1909 - July 1910: Balkans War: Italy & Ottoman vs Balkan Nations: Italy & Ottoman win
July 1911 - January 1913: War of Spain: Balkan Alliance & France vs Spain: Spain wins
July 1912 - July 1912: Venezuela-Equador War: Venezuale vs Equador: Venezuela wins
July 1915 - January 1920: World War 1: see belowe for alliances and such:
January 1919 - : War of Greenland: Russia, Germany, Austria vs Denmark, Holland, France: pending
July 1919 - : Second War of Spain: Italy, Ottomans, Germany, France, Russia, Portugal vs Spain, Portugal: pending
(Portugal switched side during the war by attacking Spanish troops from behind)

World War 1
3 fronts: (so far)
China, Austria, Italy & Japan vs France, Denmark, Holland, Portugal, Great Britain (peace signed)
Japan vs France & USA (peace signed, Philippines created)
USA, Austria, Italy, France, Ottoman vs Cuba, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Mexico, Spain (peace signed - status quo mantained)
(Argentina withdraws due to internal civil war)

Neutrals:
Russia
Germany
UCA
Ethiopia
Liberia
Siam
(Vietnam) - New nations created
(Cambodia) - New nation created
(Philippines) - New nation created

Saluti

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Britain to all nations of Europe, Africa, and Asia:

In this time of strife and conflict, we need something to unite us in order to stay strong and prosperous, that we present a united front against any threats, internal or external. We propose that we standardize rail measures and build rail lines between all the major cities of Africa and Eurasia and auxiliary roads to provincial areas. It will make trade and transportation of people and goods much easier and effective if we have a standard and connected transportation network, linking all the major areas of our hemisphere. Imagine the benefits, both in wealth generation and ease of transport, of being able to ship things or go from Beijing to Istanbul, Moscow to Capetown, Tunis to Bangkok without the hassle of constantly loading and unloading or having to travel over areas that are uninproved altogether. We would all benefit greatly. We urge you to join the Free Movement Project.

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American War Update

In what was called the gratest Naval Battle of history, the Austrian, American and Italian navies enganged in combat the Brazilian, Cuban, Mexican and Venezuelan navies.
The two fleets were about the same size, but since the Brazilian and Cuban fleets knew better those waters, the AA Fleet managed to make their superior experience worth, as on the end the Austrians and Italians had to withdraw back to the American ports, to repair from their damages.

But the AA Fleet suffered heavy casualities as well, and even if they finally conquered the hegemony other the carrabeans, they have lost many ships, and have many others heavily damaged, and they had to go back to Mexican or Carrabean ports for reparations.

On the land, the American Army, with the help of the Italian troops managed to take back the parts of Arizona which were occupied by Mexico, and with a quick fight they destroyed the shortliving Repubblic of California.
Amazingly the Americans were helped in this by the Brazilians and the Mexicans, which had to take on the majority of the Californian Army in Baja California, and with the Californian defeat the pre-war borders are now reestablished.

Italian and Brazilian generals can now look at each other from very close across the border, however since the Italian troops were ordered to be only in defensive duties, the Italian general, Giancarlo Battaglia, have proposed a cease fire on the Mexican-American border.

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Diplomacy: January 1919

To: USA
From: Mexico

We'll accept peace only if you give us Texas

To: Mexico
From: Venezuela

Do not act like the Americans, do not claim any territory outside your borders.

To: Britain
From: India

We shall not ask for complete independence, if we are granted the right to have an Indian military parallel to the British one.
On another side: we would like to show our support for the Free Movement Project.

To: Russia
From: Denmark

First you invaded our friend in Norway and Sweden, now you are invading our territories in Greenland.
Stop this invasion at once, and apologize immediatly, or face war against all BENEDEFRA

To: BENEDEFRA
From: Denmark

I ask you to help us against the Russians, they have invaded our territories in Greenland, we ask you to support us.

OOC:
Can all of you please post its nation's statistic, so that I can fully update the first post?

Thanks

Saluti

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Oil discovered in Lybia
Italian engeniers have finally disvored Oil fields in Lybia, this will provide great wealth to Italy.
Industries are rising all around Lybia so to make the best profit out of it

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Italian Projects
Research for Oil in Lybia: done
Enlarge Air Force (to Medium): 2 years (4 days)
Enlarge Army: done
Upgrade Economy: 4 years

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Italian Stats
Name: Kingdom of Italy
Head of state: King Vittorio Emanuele III
Prime Minister: Giolitti
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Army: Very Large
Navy: Very Large
Air Force: Small
MPP: Emperor's League, Balkan Alliance

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Italian Positions toward countries:
Russia: Friendly (allied)
Germany: Friendly (allied)
Austria-Hungary: Very Friendly (allied)
Ottoman Empire: Best Friend (allied, trading)
UK: Normal
France: Friendly
Japan: Friendly (trading)
USA: Normal (cobelligerent)
Brazil: War
Argentina: War
Cuba: War
China: Normal
Mexico: War

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Navy to Brazil: Unfortunately we cannot aid you because of our domestic troubles (OOC: what a euphemism!).

Argentina (light purple)
Ruler: civman2000
Army: Small (Note: This is only the size of what the navy has; if you add together the armies of all the generals it is Medium-large)
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Anarchy, the navy claims to be the government
Economy: Recession

The navy, with the help of a general who allied with them, has gained control of most of CHile and some of western Argentina. Paraguay, which had declared independence, has been attacked by one of the rebel groups, and is once again in anarchy. In the streets of Buenos Aires and other major cities, rebels inspired by the socialist faction of the Russian rebels have taken control.

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Portugal stats:
Medium Army
Large Navy (not including small navy aiding Cuba)
Small Air Force
Economy: Stable
Government: Republic

Portugal will fight for the Cuban Plan, and proposes that a vote be taken off all nations involved in whether or not to accept the Cuban peace agreement.

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Brazil stats:

Army: Imperial
Navy: Huge...upgrade to Gigantic is stalled. The ships built to increase navy size ends up replacing losses from the naval battle.
Air Force: small
Economy: slow Growing
Government: Republic


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More money is being poured in to rebuilding and repairing ships. At the moment, most enlistees join the Navy to aid in the construction, and to keep up in naval losses. Engineers and men from every nation of the American alliance, including Cuba and except for Argentina are aiding in the construction of Brazillian ships.

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Brazil votes to accept Cuban proposals.

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Germany - Diplomacy:

To Britain: We accept your suggestion regarding freedom of movement.

To all allies (secret): We beleive that we should now take action against the rebels in Russia and Argentina. If we do not crush and discredit them while they are weak, they will spread, and will swiftly become too strong to defeat.

To Brazil: In order to help your economy grow in spite of the current war, we would like to offer you some loans and investment in your natural resources. This will help both our economies.

To France: We would like permission to prospect for oil in your african colonies. Our engineers believe there may be substantial amounts of it there.

Germany - Military Actions:

With the Russian winter over, German troops are pursuing the Bolsheviks into Siberia, and are taking no prisoners.

Germany - Projects:

German engineers, as part of the plan to further upgrade the Germane conomy, are expanding mining operations in the African colonies, focussing especially on oil and precious minerals. This will be complete in 1 year and will accelerate the economy upgrade by one year.

Germany - Statistics (early 1920):

Army: Gigantic
Navy: Very Large (upgrades to Huge in 1 year (2 days))
Air Force: Small (upgrades to Medium in 0.5 years (1 day))
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Booming (upgrades to World Leading in 2.5 years (5 days))
Other Projects:
Better aircraft: 0.5 years (1 days)
Better tanks: 2 years (4 days)
Colonial mining: 1 year (2 days)

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To Argentinian navy (secret): If you can grant us some commercial concessions, we would be prepared to use our ships and troops to restore you to power and crush the rebels.

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To Germany:
We would appreciate your economic help.


Brazil has finally announced its support of the Argentinian Navy as the legitimate government of Argentina.

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British Stats:

Army: Very large
Navy: Imperial
Air Force: Medium
Economy: Prosperous, should return to World Leading within 3 to 4 years.


Britain to India:

granted.


Britain to Italy:

may our industries partake in development of your oil reserves?

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Brazillian engineers discover petroleum and iron ores. They begin developing the areas.

Brazil also begin businesses in the timber industry, since there's lots of it.

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Britain to Brazil:

we would also like to take part in development of your resouces and open trade.

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To Britain: Could you sell some shares in variosu south african mines to us?

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Britain to Germany:

Not government operated ones, no, but you are free to attempt to purchase some from private owners. They will be reluctant to sell for anything less than a fair sum, but if you are willing to pay, go right ahead.

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To Russia: We are prepared to offer you the same terms we have offered Brazil, to help your economy recover.

To Britain: We would not presume to offer anything less than a fair price for the mines, so that should not be a problem.

Several German banks have set up office in Brazil, and are directing large amounts of money into various mining operations. This should provide a boost of 0.5 years to the German economy upgrade, and move the Brzilian economy up to plain 'Growing'.

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ooc: Giovanni, I ordered French troops to attack Mexico, and the French fleet to join with the Italians and Austrians.

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Near the border, a wave of anti-Brazilian pogroms have occured. Throughout northern Brazil, there is a call for "un pais de espanol puro" (a country of pure Spanish, in other words a country where no one speaks portuguese).

Argentinian civil war:
The colors on the map are the 11 main factions. The white is areas that are controlled by minor factions or are highly contested. A few factions of note:
Light purple: The navy
Light blue: BOlivian liberation movement
Maroon: Paraguayan liberation movement.
Red and turquoise: Socialist factions.

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OOC: Civman, can you answer the message I sent to the Argentinian navy, please?

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To Germany: Done.

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OOC: giovanni, regarding the first GDNES2 thread I won't say I told you so

And my stats:

Russia (brown)
Ruler: Frozzy
Army: Imperial
Navy: Huge
Air Force: Small
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Prosporous

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TO Allies(secret):
To Italy we must go on the advance now. The only way to make peace is if we take the war to them. They will never give in when we are in a stalemate as we are now. We must attack. Our troops are ready. Our navy willl soon be ready. We must attack of lose the war.

To United States(secret):
WE will be sending more tanks, artillery, and ships soon. Once our forces have been assembled we will attack once again. We susgest that you engage in massive ship building projects.

Austrian Moves and Projects:
Army Huge(going to Imperial in 1 years time due to draft. More tanks, artilllery and troops are on their way to USA for new offensive)
Navy Huge(Damaged ships being repaired and lost ships being replaced to get back to Huge and then to Imperial. Already replacement ships are steaming
towards US waters.)

Better tanks(with Germany 1.5 years)
Plane Research(4 years): Design to make useable bombers and figthers.

Austrian Navy has once again started sub warfare, joining US subs in region. THey are going after merchant ships and other targets that are easy to pick off. Massive numbers of subs have been realeased to attack.

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Germany is now deploying several squadrons of ships from the navy, along with a substantial ground force, to the Argentinian coastline, ready to intervene in the civil war if necessary.

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Navy to GErmany: We do not want your military help, but would appreciate some economic help.

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Chinese states:
Army Medium to Hugh (1.5 years)
Air Force: Tiny <--- Ottomans gave me planes
Navy: Large <--------- Giovanni I have already upgrade Medium to large a week ago plz may you change.
Economy:Growning <----- Have trade with countries plz may you change.

UK: Normal
France: Very, Very Cold
Italy: Normal
Germany: Normal
Russia: Normal
Ottoman Empire: Friendly (Trade, Allied)
Austria: Friendly (Trade, Allied)
Japan: Friendly
USA: Cold
Brazil: Wish to establish embassy
Argentinia: Wish to establish embassy
Cuba: Wish to establish embassy
Mexico: Wish to establish embassy

To Japan (secret): What is your answer to our offer of wishing buy back the border area of Manchuria, and Russia.

To Austria, Ottomans(secret): Do you with to buy from us your new Zeng Ho rockett artillery. This has devastating acurracy, and range excellent range. This can help you with your war with the Americas. We have intergated it with your army. We would like to send supplies and a workforce to rebuild any ships you have lost.

To Vietnam, and Cambodia: We are send you raw matterials and supplies to build up your nations. This will help you for the future.

Chinese projects:
Lenin project: .5 years increase raw industrial product.
Golden Sword project: Done. Worlds Largest Artillery 1 mile long turret mounted on a railroad car.

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To Vietnam, and Cambodia(secret): We wish that you join our country, we would like to help you modernize, but we need your help to do it. So if you join our country we will let you free of all obligations, once your countries have sufficient strength to defend yourselfs. Thus you may help us and we will help you.

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OOC: Wrangler: 1 mile long artillery piece!? We wouldn't be able to build now, how can you possibly think you could build it in 1920!?