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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
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If you try to car-jack me or break into my house and I'm home you're dead meat. It doesnt matter whether you have a gun or not. |
You can't use deadly force, unless you are threatened with deadly force yourself. So, while you could shoot someone who carjacked you or broke in, if you have a reasonable suspicion that they will try to kill you, you cannot shoot a guy who is, for example, running away when he sees you have a gun.
HOWEVER, if you shoot someone that has broken into your house just because he is creeping around your house (and you don't say "I got a gun"), then you are guilty of at the very least manslaughter, but depending on what jurisdiction, probably murder
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Carver
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reprocessing plutonium, Yongbyon, NK
Jan 2002
time: 23:26
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Originally posted by Lancer
Mike, the thought of going to prison is a nightmare to me. Not because I'm worried about doing time, or the food or the lack of freedom, though these things would definately suck. The main deterrent for me is getting raped by a black gang. If that makes me a racist in your view, oh well.
I believe alot of white people feel this way. I don't believe the average black guy who is likely to go to prison feels this way. He doesn't fear rape because he is in the majority and likely is already in a gang before he went to prison. If that statement makes me racist in your view, that's life.
I believe I'm not a racist however, but a realist. |
That's why you don't want to go to jail? 
I don't want to go to jail because I like living in my apartment, going out to eat, going to clubs, hearing groups play, going to the park, going to school and generally hanging out with my friends.
If you're right, then it's good we have black prision gangs or there'd be more crime out there.
P.S. Would you mind being raped by a white gang?
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SpencerH
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Co-Ruler of my patch of land south of Birmingham Alabama
Feb 2002
time: 23:26
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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If you try to car-jack me or break into my house and I'm home you're dead meat. It doesnt matter whether you have a gun or not. |
You can't use deadly force, unless you are threatened with deadly force yourself. So, while you could shoot someone who carjacked you or broke in, if you have a reasonable suspicion that they will try to kill you, you cannot shoot a guy who is, for example, running away when he sees you have a gun. |
In Lousiana (for example) I can defend myself by shooting you if I suspect that you are about the car jack me. That recent law has cut down on the number of car-jackings substantially.
If I miss you with a twelve gauge and you're running away I wont shoot again.
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HOWEVER, if you shoot someone that has broken into your house just because he is creeping around your house (and you don't say "I got a gun"), then you are guilty of at the very least manslaughter, but depending on what jurisdiction, probably murder |
Guess what. If you're lying in my house dead you dont get much of a vote. You havent been in the south for long have you?
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:26
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I'm sorry to hear that Che.. That kind of stuff can make people paranoid. The chances are that this was not the first time these guys did something like this, and chances are they will do it again, to someone else. But there is some comfort in it too, probably they will get caught some day, and they surely are not having any personal hard feelings for you. That means you're pretty safe, or as safe as you were before the attack. I hope you're ok mentally though, maybe you got traumatized, but you will be ok, time makes it better.
I don't know about the area or dangers you have to deal with or the trend about kids having guns where you live.
I'd get a gun, but I wouldn't carry it with me, just for home. However there has been some mistakes before, since this happened to you. You were caught by surprise and that makes your ability to defend yourself a lot weaker. Of course you can't assume that every kid is going to attack you.. I think it's important to know how to react in these kind of situations, and train and educate yourself against these kinds of situations. You have to make sure you're not caught by surprise, so you can defend yourself intelligently. Positioning yourself right way, being able to control your fear and adrenaline and use it against the attackers or escape, not against yourself by freezing up. It happens a lot, freezing up and not being able to think fast. In this situation escaping was the only good thing to do, so kudos to you.
If you are fairly physical and able to defend without weapons, don't be afraid to hit attacker. Just hit them hard and many times, even when they're already in the ground. Make sure they won't get up and pull a gun on you when you turn your back. And when you think they've had enough, hit them little more and call the cops. Be mean and nasty. Bite if you have to. If it gets life threatening, push your fingers through the attackers eyes hard, it should work. Kick to the balls. JUst don't do the mistake of not defending strong enough and giving the attacker a chance to counter.
You'll be ok, I'm sure.
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