16-03-2003 13:25									#91
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What was the deal you gace Alecrast?

	16-03-2003 13:28									#92
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24 to 48 month peace treaty, and a offer to create a new federation between us

	16-03-2003 15:36									#93
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You'll need to resend to me. I had to kill my country and start a new one due to bugs in the system.

EDIT: Nevermind. I've already sent one to you.

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	17-03-2003 11:37									#94
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Gen Tac and Anarchic. I moved nations so you I am sending the thingies again. Soz.

I am now in your region to make things more intresting.

I als propose the set up of a new federation

	17-03-2003 12:11									#95
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Actually my new Nation. The Democratic Republic of Sheepsta has only the De Lochte Biggen Republiek between me and Centralis. They are to Centralis' North-west.

	17-03-2003 12:48									#96
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You're in Centralis's region, but not Alecrast's. We used to occupy the nation now named "Faulty", to Centralis's south-east.

	17-03-2003 12:53									#97
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N.B.

With Nationstates working and updated again....

North Sheepsta
UN Category: Capitalizt
Civil Rights: World Benchmark Economy: Thriving Political Freedoms: Very Good

South Sheepsta
UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Very Good

Thriving little protectorates, aren't they?

	17-03-2003 13:18									#98
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You do this to piss me off.

New Sheepstan Chairman announced today that the time has come to allow an oppostion in New Sheepsta. The Chairman has said that this will not disrupt New Sheepsta's egalitarian society or socialist ideals, but the main aim of the new nation is to stabalise itself and retake those areas of the nation that are still occupied by Alecrast and Bulbargeden.

The protectorates over Sheepstan citizens is intollerable and we shall endevour to wipe out this infamy as long as we breathe. We cannot allow Sheepsta to be under another's grasp.

	18-03-2003 05:26									#99
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New Sheepsta Chairman would like to announce that the UN has recatogorised his nation as Authoritarian Democracy. He has also announced that he has admitted an application to join the United Nations, as the only true government of Sheepsta.

Throughout the puppets of North and South Sheepsta the New Sheepstan Unity beureu is helping dissidents rise up and to call for the reunification of Sheepsta under the New Sheepstan government now sited in the city of Fort Sheepsta, formerly known as Fort Jesus.

	18-03-2003 15:00									#100
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I think we'd all *love* to know how people would want out of societies with such high ratings in all fields (To the point where some might even call them excessive!), ratings even higher than the countries which protect them have!

	18-03-2003 20:52									#101
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The natrion of Upper Riis is in full support of the true government of Sheepsta on this matter. We continue to call for the complete withdrawal of foreign elements in the so-called Protectorates of Sheepsta.

The well-being of imported colonists is not an issue to be praised, as it can only occur on the backs of the native-born.

Alecrast out of Sheepsta!

M

	19-03-2003 04:43									#102
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Alecrast and Bulbagarden, along with the Caretaker governments of North and South Sheepsta, again must chide Riss for making comments when they clearly do not understand the situation, and we ask that you look over the historical records of the original Sheepsta incident, and of the Sheepsta Civil War. To make a long story short...this "New Sheepsta" is made up entirely of elements of the rebal armies defeated by the coalition of forces supporting the United States of Sheepsta, forces which showed on at least one occasion their willingness to use nuclear weapons, as well as slaughter POW's and other foreign nationals.

	19-03-2003 06:18									#103
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New Sheepsta would like to announce that Riis is more than welcome to assist it in its defence of Sheepstan assets and the re-unification of Sheepsta island.

	26-03-2003 15:23									#104
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Alecrast and Bulbagarden would like it if the other nations would give a timetable for when they will be ready for us to conduct the secondary referendum in the disputed states. They've had a number of attacks on them recently by New Sheepstan elements, and we'd like things sorted so they can be dealt with ASAP.

	27-03-2003 03:56									#105
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New Sheepsta denies these claims and has authorised the use of force to unite Sheepsta if the occupying powers do not leave in six months time.

	27-03-2003 07:04									#106
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Whenever New Sheepsta is ready for negotiations, and wherever they are ready for negotiations, Iguana Fire will send its diplomats... Iguana Fire supports Alecrast and Bulbagarden in their desire for peace, but would like to state that the territory is ethnically and traditionally Sheepstan... therefore, Iguana Fire, noting Sheepsta's aversion to meetings- would like to suggest taht Sheepsta holds the meetings- but forces Alecrast and Bulbagarden to partially withdraw in the meantime... and forces them to agree to talks on SHEEPSTAN territory, so as to give sheepsta the advantage in any talks.

	27-03-2003 12:33									#107
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We all only for the full and unconditional withdrawl from the Sheepstan lands, and the complete reunification of Sheepsta

	31-03-2003 12:45									#108
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"New Sheepsta", if you haven't noticed, I'll spell things out for you.
Both North and South Sheepsta are *not* occupied territories. In fact, at the moment, much of the military and police forces (Over 60% and growing) of the two nations are local. Only the ones around your borders to prevent invasion from your paramilitary forces are primarily comprised of Alecrast or Bulbagarden troops.

Iguana Fire, we understand your concerns, however the protectorates are Sheepstan territory, and are occupied by Sheepstans (No Alecrast or Bulbagarden settlers have been moved into these lands if that's what you feared. Sheepsta is still Sheepsta), so we don't see why any talks should be held on the occupied territory of the "New Sheepsta" paramilitary forces comprised of those still loyal to the position of the now deceased Cardinal Ew.

	31-03-2003 13:34									#109
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occ: technically if this is the case I would like to have control over these nations seeming Sheepsta is mine.

To Alecrast: We give you 5 days to withdraw and reunite all of Sheepsta under its rightful rulers or we shall do it ourselves.

	31-03-2003 13:42									#110
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While appreciating the peaceful wishes of Alecrast, I am wondering if Alecrast has a legitimate reason to have control over any of Sheepsta? What gives them a claim to it?

Akiria would like to suggest that if mediation is needed, the court is used, so as to make any outcome binding and official, but will respect the decision of those parties if this is not preferable.

	31-03-2003 13:47									#111
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All occupied lands of SHeepsta should be handed over to Sheepsta, a war over this matter would be pointless.

	31-03-2003 15:42									#112
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Dakmoristan supports the rights of Alecrast and Bulbagarden to defend their interests in Sheepsta.

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	31-03-2003 19:19									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Sheep occ: technically if this is the case I would like to have control over these nations seeming Sheepsta is mine.

*Was* yours.

quote: Originally posted by Sheep To Alecrast: We give you 5 days to withdraw and reunite all of Sheepsta under its rightful rulers or we shall do it ourselves.

Don't make idle threats. Alecrast isn't the 10th largest military power in Apolyton for nothing. And much of that force comes from the North Sheepstan Brownshirts Battalion, who recieved their training from the Alecrast Rangers. As of yet we have not made an offensive action against your paramilitary forces, however we will strike back if attacked. Seeing as your lands lie within territory that is rightfully the protectorate of Bulbagarden at this point in time...

quote: Originally posted by Drogue While appreciating the peaceful wishes of Alecrast, I am wondering if Alecrast has a legitimate reason to have control over any of Sheepsta? What gives them a claim to it?

Please reference the first post in this discussion topic. We were given a mandate to hold North Sheepsta as a protectorate by referendum of the people following the dissolution of the USS Government.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue Akiria would like to suggest that if mediation is needed, the court is used, so as to make any outcome binding and official, but will respect the decision of those parties if this is not preferable.

Alecrast, Bulbagarden, and our protectorates are of course willing to take this matter before the courts. We believe we are in the right, and the the court would only validate that.

quote: Originally posted by Jack_www All occupied lands of SHeepsta should be handed over to Sheepsta, a war over this matter would be pointless.

There are no "occupied lands", only regional protectorates of Alecrast and Bulbagarden. As I clarified earlier, both Alecrast and Bulbagarden at this time actually have the minority military presence in the protectorates, and the governments of both North and South Sheepsta are already demonstratably semi-autonomous.

quote: Originally posted by Mr. President Dakmoristan supports Alecrast's right to defend its interests in Sheepsta. It remains sceptical of the notion that the citizens and territory of the Protectorates have been misused.

Alecrast thanks Dakmoristan for its support on this sensitive issue.

	31-03-2003 23:38									#114
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Alecrast we want to solve this issue peacefully, anther war in apolyton is the last thing we need. We urge you to hand over the fromer lands of Sheepsta to the current Sheepsta government. The lands belong to them, and again we do not like foreign powers occuping land in Apolyton. We will not enter any millitary action against any of the parties involved, but we may send peacekeeping forces.

	01-04-2003 00:05									#115
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quote: Alecrast, Bulbagarden, and our protectorates are of course willing to take this matter before the courts. We believe we are in the right, and the the court would only validate that.

That is reassuring to hear. I have just posted a thread for Judge nominations, and if Sheepsta agrees, this can be heard before the court.

Sheepsta: Please postpone your 5 day deadline and take this before The Court for trial and judgement. Mediation is the only way to resolve this without conflict, which it seems you are destined to lose.

Akiria will not militarily help either party without a court ruling.

	01-04-2003 02:54									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Alecrast we want to solve this issue peacefully, anther war in apolyton is the last thing we need. We urge you to hand over the fromer lands of Sheepsta to the current Sheepsta government. The lands belong to them, and again we do not like foreign powers occuping land in Apolyton. We will not enter any millitary action against any of the parties involved, but we may send peacekeeping forces.

We are the current Sheepsta government. Well.....technically anyway, since the governments of both North and South Sheepsta are already demonstratably semi-autonomous, as I noted before. This "current Sheepsta government" you refer to is comprised of a group of paramilitary who were declared rebels by the USS government before they disbanded. In other words, they're the remaints of the former "Holy Empire" of Sheepsta who were overthrown. They have no legitimate claim over these lands, nor over the lands they currently occupy.

	01-04-2003 04:14									#117
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The government of New Sheepsta will not accpet any outome but the full runification of the Sheepstan people into the greater nation of Sheepsta and will use any means necessary at its disposal to assure this happens.

The government of Sheepsta has never recognised the claim of foreign nations occupying parts of our nation when the former government of the USS fell. The People's Republic of New Sheepsta seeks to reclaim the old constitution once it is reunified and to set Sheepsta back to rights.

	01-04-2003 12:37									#118
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Post edited. I didn't want Bulbagarden to feel left out.

	01-04-2003 12:52									#119
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The people of Sheepsta have started resisiting the foreign controlled puppet governments of the 'protectorates' of the occupied region. The Sheepstan people shall not stop their complete and utter push for reunification under the New Sheepstan government and the complete and utter liberation of the Sheepstan people from the Anarchial regimes of the mnuderous government of Alecrast and Bulbagraden.

Those elements of Sheepsta that are lackeys of the imperialist regimes that seek to control all of Sheepsta are being eliminated as tratiors of the Sheepsta physiche. Guerilla Warfare will be long and costly. The people of Sheepsta call for only one thing, REUNIFICATION under the egalitarian paradise that will exist in Sheepsta after the withdrawal of Alecrast and Bulbagarden.

TO much surpiese of Alecrast and Bulbagarden many of their supposed supporters in the North and South Occupation zone paramilitries have started to activley support the true government of Sheepsta and have turned their wepons on their oppressors.

Indeed Alecrast is stronger than New Sheepsta, indeed the people of Sheepsta stand little chance when stacked up against the people of Alecrast. However we shall prevail. The people of Sheepsta will be reunited and the shall be liberated. The oppressors of Alecrast and Bulbagarden will never know peace as long as they are in Sheepstan territory.

To this matter the New Sheepstan Chairman and his government have gone into refuges to prevent retaliation for their righteous actions. We call upon the world to break ties with the Alecrastians and the Bulbagardians for their economic greed. Their only reason to be in Sheepsta is its abundaunt naturall reserves of oil, coal, bauxite and other minerals. There only aim to benefit from the reconstruction of the damage the inflicted on our once proud land.

You need only look at the pretense of Alecrast as they stormed unpeacefully the Sheepstan homeland. While they maimed and killed thousands if not millions of Sheepstan civilians. They sought only to annex Sheepsta outright. We now call upon the peoples of the region to aid us in our liberation and aid us in our reunification as we seek to rejoin the family of Apolytoner Nations.

	01-04-2003 14:42									#120
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Sheep, I would've thought you learned your lesson by now. Godmodding is not acceptable.

Long reply to come later. *Sighs*