08-07-2003 09:09									#271
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Sounds like you've got it all under control. Using the spearman to get a worker out should be fine.

Since I don't have the attachment the rest of you have to North Estonia it won't pain me as much to leave. What will pain me is settling in the barren new area. But it's better than the alternative.

	08-07-2003 09:54									#272
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ok

I agree with the losing pikemen for a settler

growth is all important right now (although we do need towatch for barbs)

Jon Miller

	09-07-2003 00:39									#273
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The barbs will be just a temporary problem. Once the cities start appearing there will not be any room left for barb huts. If we keep our units in groups at first it will be easy for a few units to protect them.

	09-07-2003 02:23									#274
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And we will have at least one vet unit for each city - plus a few left over. Enough to get going but not cost us much.

	09-07-2003 03:57									#275
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Can you give me a count of what units we expect to have when they teleport to Legos Minor and a separate count of what is on the gallies? Thanks.

	09-07-2003 21:31									#276
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110bc turn played, this morning when Poly was down.

WE HAVE A NEW CITY!

The New Voice has been gifted to us - two barbs in the area - but ably defended by three Lego units.

All is well in North Estonia.

I am at work now - I have 3 screen shots and the details I will post later.

	09-07-2003 22:28									#277
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Cool! I wasn't expecting the city for another two turns or so.

BTW this pretty well confirms it, but I had an informal chat with Zargon last night in the Tabemono chatroom and it didn't sound like they had any inkling toward setting us up. So unless GS pulls a fast one then I think we're safe.

	10-07-2003 02:44									#278
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OK 110bc Turn report - with screenshots.

The offer:

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...wVoiceOffer.JPG

The NewVoice:

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...bc-NewVoice.JPG

And the old homeland:

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...orthEstonia.JPG

Worker in MT produced. Regular spearman cashed in, so another worker in two.

Voice worker in two.

HH worker next turn.

WC settler in 3.

Engineering in 3.

Lead galley is some 7 -8 turns from landing.

Just in case - the last galley - which is empty - was turned around. It will be ready in 3 turns if need be to pull off a couple of settlers - but I think things are OK. Fingers crossed.

Gold at 108 and plus 4 per turn.

And that's about it.

	10-07-2003 04:29									#279
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Why isn't BbtS producing Wealth? That would generate +1 gpt.

	11-07-2003 07:42									#280
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90bc Turn played.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Beta/Vox-90bc.JPG

Harry - noted and changed to wealth. Ditto for HH which produced a worker last tutns. Two workers from The Voice and MT next turn. And then the settler from WC after that. Then the gifting of cities and the jump.

Lego troops killed one of the warriors near the New Voice. We will be there soon.

Chatted with nye tonight. They have already voted on and approved the 5 point plan. There is reluctance to change it. He suggested revolt as the way to keep unit costs minimal. And - he suggested doing it twice if need be. Any thoughts?

So - it looks like we stick with the 5 point plan. I dug around to see what Shiber's thread was about. nye indicated it wasn't much. We could always move our units back to the hill tile if need be.

Engineering in 2. Treasury still growing - albeit slowly.

	13-07-2003 04:08									#281
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70bc turn played.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Beta/Vox-70bc.JPG

Workers in The Voice and MT produced. Settler out of WC next turn.

Treasury at 116 gold at plus 5 per turn. All cities on wealth (other than WC), and all citizens working the best gold producing tile available.

Engineering in 1 turn.

Trailing galley is 3 tiles from our coast - just in case.

That's it.

	13-07-2003 04:19									#282
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Looks good. So next turn will be the Big Gift then or the turn after? Can't wait to see how it all goes down.

	13-07-2003 21:35									#283
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We should go into anarchy as soon as we gift the cities to give us the best cash flow. Change one pop at The New Voice to a scientist so we can keep researching at a 40 turn rate.

	13-07-2003 22:53									#284
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quote: Originally posted by HarryH Change one pop at The New Voice to a scientist so we can keep researching at a 40 turn rate.

Neat idea Harry...I never tried that before. Has anybody tested it to see if we actually get the 40 turn rate while under anarchy?

	13-07-2003 23:11									#285
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Neat idea Harry...I never tried that before. Has anybody tested it to see if we actually get the 40 turn rate while under anarchy?

Yep I've done that before. It works just fine. The idea is that scientists, taxmen, and entertainers aren't affected by anarchy so they are still viable options, whereas commerce is not. I use that "trick" almost every time I have a prolonged anarchy to keep researching (assuming you have the extra population to support the non-growth).

	13-07-2003 23:15									#286
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Well, that's a bit of nice-to-know info...though in truth, I usually play a religous civ so I don't have a problem with anarchy.

	13-07-2003 23:27									#287
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For a while there I had a "religious fix". I only played civs with that trait. But I've tried to get away from that (not that I won't play one now), so I started branching out to basically play as many of the civ combos as I can. I learned about that particular info when I did.

BTW, I just checked the New Voice to make sure it would be able to support a scientist and it does. There will be no city growth during that phase, but it's not a big problem since the second citizen would only be able to work a forest tile anyway.

	13-07-2003 23:28									#288
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Oh, one other thing, Beta did you talk to RP about emailing the saves directly to Harry and I as well as the others? I didn't receive the last one. Thanks.

	14-07-2003 01:14									#289
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Rhoth - no I haven't. But I will. Especially as I am going to be away for the week after the one coming up. From Saturday to the following Sunday. So - someone is going to have to play the turns.

Going hiking in the Rockies, at Yoho National Park - including a day of hiking on the ice field.

Looking forward to it!

	14-07-2003 01:29									#290
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quote: Originally posted by Beta Rhoth - no I haven't. But I will. Especially as I am going to be away for the week after the one coming up. From Saturday to the following Sunday. So - someone is going to have to play the turns. Going hiking in the Rockies, at Yoho National Park - including a day of hiking on the ice field. Looking forward to it!

Sounds like a cool vacation Beta. I've never been to the Rockies before. In November my wife and I will be going back to Maui for our anniversary!! My wife knows a person who has a condo practically right on the best beach in Maui.

My vote is for Harry to play the turns while you're gone...if he wants to. If he doesn't I would probably be able to do it.

	14-07-2003 20:06									#291
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Beta, sounds like a great trip. Have fun.

I will be on a trip Thursday July 24th through Sunday July 27th. I can play the turns until Thursday and prepare some info for Rhoth to play them while I am gone.

	14-07-2003 20:49									#292
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Note that I have changed my e-mail address in the ToE.

	14-07-2003 23:46									#293
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Just received some bad news that my wife's mother's cancer has gotten worse. As of right now I don't know what's going to happen. Hopefully I'll be around to be able to play the turns on the 24th to 27th, but right now I can't make a definite guarantee.

	15-07-2003 00:15									#294
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Ok. Sorry about the bad news Rhoth.

Even though I'm currently still on vacation in Sweden - I will be back home on 22 July. So if we need a fill-in for the 24-27 July timeframe, I can fill in.

	15-07-2003 00:22									#295
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Ok. Sorry about the bad news Rhoth. Even though I'm currently still on vacation in Sweden - I will be back home on 22 July. So if we need a fill-in for the 24-27 July timeframe, I can fill in.

Thanks Wittlich.

I think that's definitely a better idea right now since I can't guarantee what I'll be doing next week. With luck her gamma knife treatment will work and we'll all go back to smooth sailing soon.

	16-07-2003 16:43									#296
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50bc turn played.

Quite a turn actually.

Received theology from Lego.

GoW sent the money for engineering and the money for the investigation plus wines.

So - I did not accept as we will not need luxuries for awhile. I explained that to them in the chat last night. They are OK with this and will resend the cash this turn.

Sent engineering to Lego.

Sent engineering to Gow.

Did NOT send engineering to RP as per the poll and discussion. Had lengthy chats with both GoW and RP last night. RP sounds a bit desperate.

Did the investigation. Cost 78 gold.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...tigationNo1.JPG

E-mailed that to GoW. BTW - check out their luxuries!

Moved galleys closer.

New Voice citizen to scientist. Starting printing press.

Wittlich produced settler. Moved him to the stack. All cities at size 1.

Gifted engineering and our four cites to GS.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...0bc-goodbye.JPG

And one last look...

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...onelastlook.JPG

New adventures await us gentlemen. And it will be fun watching a war from the sidelines.

	16-07-2003 16:54									#297
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And oh yes - I forgot one important part - we had a revolution. We are now in anarchy. Party on!

	16-07-2003 21:07									#298
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Woo hoo! Let the festivities begin.

Looks good Beta. The dawn of our new empire coincides with AD times.

BTW, I find it interesting that pretty much everyone has turned against RP. Two civs actively at war with them, us spying for one of those, Lego encouraging us, and GS standing on the sidelines (so far at least).

	16-07-2003 21:40									#299
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill BTW, I find it interesting that pretty much everyone has turned against RP. Two civs actively at war with them, us spying for one of those, Lego encouraging us, and GS standing on the sidelines (so far at least).

You reap what you sow...

Also - they tried to hog way too much land - and resources.

	16-07-2003 22:09									#300
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OK - sent to Togas:

quote: Hi Togas - for the next two weeks - can you please send the save to: Beta brucehynes57atatatatatrogers.com Rhothaerill rhothaerillatatatatatcomcast.net HarryH albingersichatatatatatcomcast.net Wittlich wittlichatatatatatsbcglobal.net Sorry for the inconvenience. We wil drop back to 3 shortly. This covers us off for some vacation and RL time. Thank you. And can you please let the other RP 'players' know as well. Talk to you soon ... Beta

The save - and the general rule has been to not rename it anything other than the name assigned by the game - goes to Lego:

vondrack vondrackatatatatatjimaz.cz
ZargonX jhaddockatatatatatcrunchable.net
Kloreep benatatatatatsurveypoint.com

I will be away from Saturday the 19th to Sunday the 27th inclusive.