13-04-2003 21:44									#1
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Main Entry: pa·tri·ot
Pronunciation: 'pA-trE-&t, -"ät, chiefly British 'pa-trE-&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriOtEs, from patria lineage, from patr-, patEr father
Date: 1605
: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests




Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread.
Your thoughts aren't solicited here.

You can be a Patriot, and still understand that change in anything is always desireable.
Circumstances change, government is evolutionary.

So, given the fact that your country could probably improve on some things,
who is a Patriot here?

	13-04-2003 21:45									#2
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Besides me?

	13-04-2003 21:46									#3
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Me.

	13-04-2003 21:58									#4
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quote: Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread.

Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it, so I'll say it:

This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.

	13-04-2003 22:00									#5
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I love my country, accept its authority and support its values.

	13-04-2003 22:01									#6
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quote: Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread. Your thoughts aren't solicited here.

When did that ever work Sloww?

I love my country, which is why I dsitrust its current authorities.

	13-04-2003 22:04									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.

Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...

	13-04-2003 22:07									#8
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Me. and i agree with Gepap completely

	13-04-2003 22:11									#9
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I am. Even when I hate it's policies, and system, I still love it and it's worth fighting for. So, sure..

	13-04-2003 22:14									#10
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Ge :
The authority of your country and its current authorities are completely different things.

	13-04-2003 22:15									#11
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quote: Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...

This thread is wasting server space. It serves no use whatsoever, apart from elitism.

That's the primary reason why I said what I thought.

EDIT2:

quote: He has also been warned...

nm.

	13-04-2003 22:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Ge : The authority of your country and its current authorities are completely different things.

What does authority mean in the context you place it? authority over one-self as citizen, authority as defining its actions to be legitimate?

	13-04-2003 22:18									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...

How was his post different from Slowwhand's comments of "dork threads" in a number of places, Ming?

	13-04-2003 22:21									#14
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He has also been warned...

	13-04-2003 22:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by GePap What does authority mean in the context you place it? authority over one-self as citizen, authority as defining its actions to be legitimate?

To me, "supported your country's authority" means that you consider it legitimate that your country can exert coertion on you (coertion in general, you can disagree with the particulars, such as the fantastic patriot act). It means that you accept to pay taxes to your country, and that police and public coercion is your country's job.
It is also acknowledging the legitimacy of your country's authorities, even when you disagree with them. I may hate Chirac, I must acknowledge this guy is my legitimate president. I know Bush has lost the election, but you can still believe in the legitimacy of your authorities if you think such a coup won't happen again.

	13-04-2003 22:26									#16
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Well, if defined as such, I do believe in its authority but not its current leaders.

	13-04-2003 22:34									#17
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I think you are splitting hairs, Spiffor, but I am too tired to write a thesis right now.

	13-04-2003 22:37									#18
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What does "splitting hairs" mean ?

	13-04-2003 22:38									#19
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being a patriot doesn't mean blindly following your leaders.

it means doing your duty as a citizen, and keeping a tight rein on them.

it's a given you get behind your president when it's your national security at risk; it's not like you have a choice between him and yosemite sam.

that said, you can still criticize him/her. you can still protest. you can still exercise all the rights you have.

those who were protesting against the war are just as much patriots as those who were supporting bush in the war.

	13-04-2003 22:38									#20
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I'm a patriot who regularly exercises the right to question my leaders and their policies at all times. Blind devotion is extremely dangerous, and should be thoroughly discouraged.

	13-04-2003 22:39									#21
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I love my country. I distrust my government. I will fight for change in my country because I love it. I would put my life on the line to help my country (a la Septemer 11th). I will not fight wars that are fought without a just cause towards the health and safety of my country (a la Iraq).

	13-04-2003 22:43									#22
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I am a patriot. The true patriots protect their country from their government.

	13-04-2003 22:45									#23
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^^^^^

My comment made it into your sig? I'm honored! And I applaud your obvious intelligence and common sense.

	13-04-2003 22:48									#24
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hehehe. thanks.

	13-04-2003 22:55									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it, so I'll say it: This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.

Well, since you were the first...

Speaking of brain-dead, can you not read?
Understand English ? Hablo Inglés?
I said, I don't give a rat's ass about people like you.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Rather than be redundant, this goes for whomever follows, that is of like mindlessness.

	13-04-2003 22:57									#26
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quote: Speaking of brain-dead, can you not read? Understand English ? Habla Ingles ? I said, I don't give a rat's ass about people like you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Amusing.

quote: I don't give a rat's ass about people like you.

quote: Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it

Very mature attitude, there.

	13-04-2003 23:00									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger How was his post different from Slowwhand's comments of "dork threads" in a number of places, Ming?

As Ming noted, I've been warned.
I can't point out the fact that you're a dork, because it gets me in trouble, but you know it anyway, so I needn't bother.

I'll tell you what, any further postings of a negative nature in this thread, and I believe the conclusion may be drawn that the poster is a "closet patriot".
Which is even sadder.

	13-04-2003 23:01									#28
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he's finnish. perhaps he's a finnish patriot who thinks the us is a negative force on finnish interests?

	13-04-2003 23:05									#29
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quote: I can't point out the fact that you're a dork, because it gets me in trouble, but you know it anyway, so I needn't bother.

Signature material.

quote: I'll tell you what, any further postings of a negative nature in this thread, and I believe the conclusion may be drawn that the poster is a "closet patriot".

Let me guess, you didn't said that I was a 'closet patriot', either?



I'll STFU now in this thread, so you don't need to yell at me for avoiding the loss of your status.

	13-04-2003 23:07									#30
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Tuomerehu... You are suspended for 48 hours for attempting to start a flame war. You should take my warnings more seriously in the future.

And Slow... I've told you to ignore people who are taking shots at you... We will deal with those people, as I just did. So just chill.