26-04-2003 05:17									#31
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Can we move him the full 3 and get the rush order from within the city display? Can someone test that quickly on a scenario or some such?

	26-04-2003 05:18									#32
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Bolderberg would be nice too, although we wouldn't get the free border expanse OG (who started with this OB thing ) gets... I don't see the big risk in choosing one of both cities, as long as we don't build it in Monsoon we should be fine

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	26-04-2003 05:19									#33
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In a game against human opponents, I much prefer that wonders be inland. Plus, if we hang onto our map, no one will know exactly where Cyclone is, whereas ships going around our coast could see coastal cities to target them.

	26-04-2003 05:20									#34
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Can we build it at the beginning of the turn?

	26-04-2003 05:20									#35
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I'm strongly against building non-coastal wonders in coastal cities.

	26-04-2003 05:20									#36
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I cannot BELIEVE nobody said "Where's Theseus??!!!"

If we were to do an Army, 2 MedInf + 1 Pike would be the no-brainer...

But no, Sun Tzu, all the way. Do it in OG, and sell the barracks.

	26-04-2003 05:20									#37
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Shiber, Sun Tsu now would mean an extra upgrade... that's nice to have (not sure if it will be needed)

	26-04-2003 05:21									#38
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I agree with Nathan. I'd feel more comfortable if we had the Wonder inland in a 'hidden city'.

	26-04-2003 05:22									#39
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Damn... sorry Theseus... I actually said that we needed to wait for one of our generals, but didn't think more over it. My fault... but I was overly excited

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	26-04-2003 05:22									#40
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Don;t worry about hiding it... it shows up in the Wonder screen anyway.

	26-04-2003 05:22									#41
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Yes, can rush up to 8 tiles away. Just checked.

	26-04-2003 05:23									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Do it in OG, and sell the barracks.

Oh yeah, we should remember to sell the barracks in all our cities immediately before ST completes ... if we can.

	26-04-2003 05:23									#43
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Does anyone know if you can get the rush order by right clicking on him from within the city display after he has used all his movement? I think it is highly likely that we can.

X-Posted with Aeson. I think. So we can rush ST at Cyclone?!

Last edited by notyoueither on 26-04-2003 at 05:30

	26-04-2003 05:23									#44
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Sorry, Theseus; should have thought to give you a call, but our having your phone number slipped my mind. Still, you can't fault our results, can you?

	26-04-2003 05:24									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Don;t worry about hiding it... it shows up in the Wonder screen anyway.

True, but they don't know (and will never know) where Cyclone is. Anybody sailing a Galley down our coast will discover the location of OG. It might be a minor point, however.

	26-04-2003 05:24									#46
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Does anyone know if you can get the rush order by right clicking on him from within the city display after he has used all his movement? I think it is highly likely that we can.

My experience is that you cant. Movement must be available, even if it is 1/3 of a point...

Mss

	26-04-2003 05:25									#47
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The name of the city shows up on the wonder screen. But that just tells them that we have Sun Tsu's in a city somewhere named Cyclone; it doesn't tell them where Cyclone is. Right?

	26-04-2003 05:25									#48
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If we build it in Cyclone, lets go with a 1 turn worker there this turn. Otherwise we end up wasting 10 shields.

Question... can we rush an improvement from inside the city screen? Because we probably can get into Cyclone... is there a right click on a leader and 'rush' option?

	26-04-2003 05:25									#49
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Does anyone know if you can get the rush order by right clicking on him from within the city display after he has used all his movement? I think it is highly likely that we can. X-Posted with Aeson. I think. So we can rush ST at Cyclone?!

Can I try on the official map?

	26-04-2003 05:25									#50
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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay The name of the city shows up on the wonder screen. But that just tells them that we have Sun Tsu's in a city somewhere named Cyclone; it doesn't tell them where Cyclone is. Right?

correct...

	26-04-2003 05:26									#51
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We need to test this... and not on the save itself. Does anyone have a game laying around with a leader present? Is it easy to recreate?

DeepO

	26-04-2003 05:26									#52
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This is MP. The less they know, the better. Cardinal rule #3.

	26-04-2003 05:26									#53
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By the way, we would rush Sun Tsu's at the beginning of the turn to free up our leader slot, but we wouldn't get it until the following turn (assuming we build it in Cyclone).

	26-04-2003 05:28									#54
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Set up a scenario with a GL, hit space bar to end his turn. Then see if the option is there from the city screen.

It works for upgrades, I can't see why not for rushing.

	26-04-2003 05:28									#55
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OG is very vulnerable to any invasion, and it will act as a magnet!!!.
Advantage, we can a good guess where they wil be landing

	26-04-2003 05:28									#56
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I just tried and there is no inside the city screen option for rushing. Just 'fortify' and 'disband' even for leaders.

	26-04-2003 05:29									#57
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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay By the way, we would rush Sun Tsu's at the beginning of the turn to free up our leader slot, but we wouldn't get it until the following turn (assuming we build it in Cyclone).

So we have to start a turn without a leader?...

mss

	26-04-2003 05:29									#58
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Damn.

	26-04-2003 05:29									#59
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Nathan, not if we do that in the city view, like we rushed units now... if we can. of course. We shouldn't delay it by much, though

It's the same problem, I think, as rushing it at the end of this turn, no MP left on the leader

DeepO

	26-04-2003 05:31									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Aeson I just tried and there is no inside the city screen option for rushing. Just 'fortify' and 'disband' even for leaders.

Keyboard short-cut?