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Dominae is offline Dominae
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* We have a Great Leader!!!!!


HOLY F***ING SH*T!

Please, pardon my French.

Let us count our lucky stars:

1. One Hut -> One Settler
2. Few Elite Battles -> Great Leader

What's next?

I say: Neu Demogyptica has a change of heart and defects to our side. Anyone other guesses?


Dominae

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Damage was minimal.....

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Arrian is offline Arrian
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Dominae,

That thought had occurred to me... but I didn't wanna say anything. Not that I'm particularly superstitious, but...

Think on this: Legoland saved the rest of the teams from total and complete GS domination. Imagine, just imagine, if we had gotten the Pyramids too! My dear lord!

I just danced around my living room, to my girlfriend's amusement.

-Arrian

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Everyone agrees with Sun Tzu, and I agree with everyone. I campaigned for Sun Tzu instead of the Great Lighthouse, so it's a no-brainer for me.

How do we handle the PR on our blind luck? Will Vox know we got a Leader (i.e. are we doing "battle reports"?). If not, will other teams guess that we got lucky, or can we just make them believe we were building two Wonder simultaneously?

One thing is for sure: whatever work we were doing toward "laying low" on the diplomatic stage are irrelevant. We're a big target, not only because of our reputation, but the obviousness of our (current) superiority (I'm not being elitist here...I doubt any other team is matching us in any domain right now).


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Incidentally, to those who got my PM regarding Lady Luck...

That's what I'M TALKIN' ABOUT, BABY!!!!

I may not be good for much, but it looks like my luck rubbed off!

J/K, of course One has nothing to do with the other. But it sure was sweet. Just like in my last 2 SP games... first elite victory = leader.

"I get knocked down, I get up again, you neva gonna keep me down!"

-Arrian

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I don't know. Vox started the turn as still being strong compared to us. I'd say there is one area we are not quite on top of... yet.

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I don't know. Vox started the turn as still being strong compared to us. I'd say there is one area we are not quite on top of... yet.


Are we even after the killin's of this turn?

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Suggestion: say nothing about our leader to anyone. Let the other teams find out that we have two wonders now, while they (except Lego) have none. Let us strike fear into their hearts before we tear them apart!
Uhh... I'm feeling kinda war-minded after today's chat.

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There are two ways to approach this diplomatically.

One is to say nothing. Let the other teams guess...

Then we can either feed the idea that we were building multiple GWs, or that we got a leader.

The other is to flat-out tell the other teams that we got a GL and rushed Sun Tzu. We can play it up (possibly with screenshot + "The return of Grog") in a roleplay sense... could be cool. The others seem to go in for the ropeplay angle (well, GoW and RP sure do, ND is the stealth team as much as we, dunno about Lego, really).

-Arrian

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Still weak compared to Vox... but we all know that WCs kick some immortal ass, as witnessed this turn!

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We should be completely silent and lay low...
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I apologize for my profane outburst a few posts up. I wanted to make sure everyone knew how excited I was that we got a Great Leader, but that's no reason to use foul language. No one asked me to say this (by the way), I just want to keep a certain level of formality, even though this is our private forum.

That said, I hope our GL helps us kick major Bobian butt.


Dominae

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Dom, don't bother about it. For those who didn't post it either here or during the chat, I'm sure most of us said it out loud

We're all (kind of) adults here, it's not that we spoil kid's ears by cursing

So, just to chime in (quoting from memory what my first reaction was):
MILJAARDE KUTGELUK! HOE IS 'T MOGELIJK, CHANSARDS! Eerst da hutteke, nu den Ramses, was't volgend, den lotto?

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There are some adults, myself included, who have a distaste for profanity. I don't make a big deal about it, but I definitely appreciate the spirit behind Dominae's apology.

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Well, I'm not somebody to use profanity often, and if it was possible to translate my remarks, you would see it was nowhere near insulting either. It's not like we're cursing someone, it's a bit like shouting OMG at the heat of a conversation.

I have one question though: how could anyone call himself an adult, if he stays up half the night in order to play a game?

DeepO

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MILJAARDE KUTGELUK! HOE IS 'T MOGELIJK, CHANSARDS! Eerst da hutteke, nu den Ramses, was't volgend, den lotto?


Hmmm, let me guess

Billion (1,000,000,000) of (something)! How is it possible, (something). First the hut, now Ramses, what will follow, the lotto jackpot?

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Easy. Kids have bedtimes.

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Hmmm, let me guess

Billion (1,000,000,000) of (something)! How is it possible, (something). First the hut, now Ramses, what will follow, the lotto jackpot?

Close

kutgeluk would be something like '***** chance', Chansards is a Flemish French for 'lucky bastards'. Okay, not really adult, but this wasn't real profanity, was it?

As to not having bedtimes: you're right there but calling it responsible adult behaviour is something else... Besides, I like being more of a child in my bahviour, now that I'm approaching the big 3, staying young in thoughts becomes a lot more important. Hence going to work in shorts and sandals, and stuff like that

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ergh... maybe it was profanity after all, if it gets blocked by the 'poly censor... let's say "women's flower" then

Bah, cultural differences, I guess. I've got a bigger problem saying 'OMG' then saying 'kut'.

DeepO

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Besides, I like being more of a child in my bahviour, now that I'm approaching the big 3, staying young in thoughts becomes a lot more important. Hence going to work in shorts and sandals, and stuff like that


Well, shorts and sandals are the natural choice for a software developer, aren't they? I'm going to work in shorts and sandals with over 40, and I'm not the only one in our team. Nobody except the managers and the sales officers wear suit and tie in our company.

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As to not having bedtimes: you're right there but calling it responsible adult behaviour is something else...


Now when did I say responsible adult?

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well, yes, but doesn't this also signify you want to stay young too? And you like working in a 'young' company?

The problem is that in a few years time, I will probably be forced to wear ties, and I'm already whaling at that...

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Now when did I say responsible adult?


I know, I know... but you also know it was what I implied the first time

Besides, don't think I'm trolling you, I think this applies to most of us here, at least it certainly applies to me. It was nearly 6 am for me last night, and 5 hours later I'm back behind the keyboard to see what's new on the forum...

DeepO

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The problem is that in a few years time, I will probably be forced to wear ties, and I'm already whaling at that...


I wore a uniform for 14 years, and then a tie for 10 years, and didn't like it. Believe me, I'm feeling better in shorts and sandals. My friends called me crazy to give up a job as manager with a company car, just to be a mere software developer (and that with over 40, while many companies won't take you even with 35), but I just love it. I work in a company, that produces hardware (which means my bosses don't understand anything what I'm doing), have almost no responsibility, no contact with customers (God, how I hated that earlier) and the pay is very nice. What better can I get?

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Not much, I guess...

The problem is I like contact with customers or out-of-company guys, if it can be casual. Which is great when working at uni; everybody expect you to wear shorts, the only ties are profs or people in love with their 3-piece suit. I've worked as a software engineer before, and the mix was about right, being able to come to work very casually at certain days, but wearing ties the next. However, the work didn't challenge me enough (and certainly didn't pay enough, which was probably caused by the size of the company).

I'm really hesitating what to do, whether to be a bit ambitious, get myself into a large chemical company (most of which are German, so you can imagine the atmosphere), or do like you and 'step down' to have an easier time. I guess I'm not that brave to make the step now, but I certainly can see this coming in 10 years time, as responsibility is a very mixed blessing. Add to that my handicap, which means that after 8 hours of work I'm exhausted only by being present, and the choice becomes even less clear.

It's a shame it's so hard to find something you like doing, gives a challenge, but also let you 'play' at work in that there are no strict rules to follow. You seem to always need to give up one aspect... plus, I won't complain when getting a nice pay, it makes life a lot easier. But only if you find the time to use it... I'm not someone who needs heaps of money in the bank to be happy, on the contrary. I value free time, and casual surroundings a lot more.

Maybe I should become a teacher or so, at least they only work one day out of two

No really, I'm envious... you sound like you have found the job which I would be happy to do... if only I was a real software guy, I would ask for your company's address

DeepO

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You are still young and have the thirties ahead. An amazing part of your life, I can assure you.

Be aware, that the age of (around) 33 is critical. It's the real end of your youth and you'll have to stop to rape your organism by going for the extreme (like working 36 hours in a row or similar, been there, seen that). If you don't heed this, you're a hot candidate for a gastric ulcer or heart attack.

I needed full 24 years to realize, that there's a life out there besides the job. As you pointed out, stockpiling money may be nice, but spending the money for something enjoyable is even nicer.

Well, more power to the younger, may they strive for power and honor, as long as they leave me alone with it.

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bah, there is no risk of me getting an heart attack, part of my body already is 80 years old... not my heart, though, just my arm and shoulder. It keeps me from being too ambitious, but also keeps me from doing any kind of sport or excercise, which of course is a bad thing. Working 36 straight hours is not an option anymore, but yes, I've been there before as well, and it's not nice.

As to more power to the younger: you're right, but really, that's one respect I don't want to feel young in, for me more responsibility in a company is only something you do if you have a family to support, or want to avoid working with your hands too much. And in my situation, all hand work hurts, while talking is something I always liked and don't use my arm for. My biggest dream would be to be able to become a cook, but it's not a physical option, as it's hard work too... so let's continue studying for a while, makes you feel young

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Oh yeah, we should remember to sell the barracks in all our cities immediately before ST completes ... if we can.

No need to sell it beforehand, we can do it afterwards too. We sell a barracks, get the gold, and the automated barracks from Sun Tsu stays there.

Unless we need cash, like we did last turn to upgrade 2 swords instead of 1, of course.

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while talking is something I always liked and don't use my arm for. My biggest dream would be to be able to become a cook,


Highly overrated...
Stressfull
No social life
Have to clean up everybodies elses mess
And in the end, eveything that went wrong, is your fault,
Not to mention the fact that you smell the whole time and can't enjoy food anymore.
I've done it for about 1o years and if I can help it, no more..ever...

quote:

I needed full 24 years to realize, that there's a life out there besides the job.

That's the one thing I realised very early on. Now if I could just find something I'm interested in

A while ago they did a survey here and the thing people are most interested in, is
1. job satisfaction
2. flexibility
3. short workhours
4. money
I'd say that is a very good trend (so we can finally bury the'80ties )

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Are you a cook by training, Alva? I new you were in "Horeca" (probably not English), but not what exactly...

I have to admit, it's kind of a child dream, in that I love preparing meals for someone else. I have a friend that is one though (two actually), and he's always talking about the stress and the impossible hours... I realise it won't be so rosy as I think it is.

DeepO

 
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