28-04-2003 07:10									#151
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At this point they've got what, 5 healthy Immortals in the Knight's Gambit?

Take that number down to 4, even at the cost of a MedInf, and I'll be happy.

Let'em try to walk out... Operation Tsunami is soon to come.

	28-04-2003 07:10									#152
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Immortals just count as two warriors?

	28-04-2003 07:12									#153
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Six healthy immortals in their main stack, and another healthy immortal (albeit a regular) on Arashi 9 if they decide to make Arashi their target.

	28-04-2003 07:15									#154
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Does the advisor take the 'injured' HP into account?

	28-04-2003 07:16									#155
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I must have hit the wrong key... 6x5=30... so 5 Immortals (they are worth close to 3 Warriors I think)

	28-04-2003 07:17									#156
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I have no idea alva. Everything I say about the military advisor is just a rough estimate.

	28-04-2003 07:18									#157
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Of course Aeson's calculations are plus or minus a bit, since "average" is a range rather than an exact number. And we don't know whether it's our new construction that made us average (in which case we're almost certainly just barely up to average) or whether it's a delayed effect of losses from last turn.

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	28-04-2003 07:24									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus At this point they've got what, 5 healthy Immortals in the Knight's Gambit? Take that number down to 4, even at the cost of a MedInf, and I'll be happy. Let'em try to walk out... Operation Tsunami is soon to come.

It is your call, Theseus. If Nathan can be talked into it.

I just checked what we can produce.

EotS: Pike, 1 per turn
Hurr: Pike, 1?
Temp: Pike, 2 turns
Aras: Pike, 3
Torn: MedInf, 3
Bldb: MedInf, 3
Cycl: WarChariot, 2
SS: WarChariot, 10
WW: WarChariot, 7
OG: WarChariot, 7
Mons: WarChariot, 7
Sufa: Galley/WarChariot, 6/4
Typh: Galley, 3

With a little gold rushing for either pikes at Arashi (or MedInf) and one WC per turn, we are in fine shape.

	28-04-2003 07:30									#159
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I say we take a shot with one vet MedInf.

	28-04-2003 07:31									#160
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I don't think we should attack Immortals on the mountains. Any move they make with them (attacking our cities or moving to the flats) favors us.

-Arrian

	28-04-2003 07:31									#161
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Just ran a quick test to see what Pikes are worth compared with Immortals, and 36 Pikes are weak compared to 20 Immortals... 37 average.

It looks like Offense is rated ~2:1 over defense ~(40a + 120d = 80a + 40d)

	28-04-2003 07:32									#162
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Alright fellas, I have to go to bed, so you all figure out the remaining moves.

If you do hit their stack with a Med Inf, may the RNG gods be with us (again).

-Arrian

	28-04-2003 07:33									#163
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I don't think we should attack Immortals on the mountains. Any move they make with them (attacking our cities or moving to the flats) favors us. -Arrian

My idea

	28-04-2003 07:35									#164
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Anyone with thoughts on giving them a Worker (namely one 7 of Arashi) to capture?

	28-04-2003 07:36									#165
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I would rather get our mines finished so that OG and WW can do some real good while the GA lasts.

	28-04-2003 07:46									#166
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This ain;t the AI... Workers aren't tempting.

Re a MedInf attack, this is totally a 'gut' call for me. Whittling / damaging one Immortal just feels right.

	28-04-2003 07:47									#167
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I've already set the worker to mining, so Vox can make a grab if they want to. It will be interesting to see whether they disband him or actually try to hold onto him if they take the bait. Counting the new worker from Cyclone, we still have seven workers west of the river and another three east (I added one to Hurricane) even if Vox grabs that one, so the worst case isn't terrible in terms of the number of workers we have left.

	28-04-2003 07:48									#168
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Maybe they'll move the whole stack there?

	28-04-2003 07:53									#169
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It might be a tempting target for their 1HP Immortal, which is almost a sure kill and another shot at a Leader. If not, we need that tile mined anyways!

	28-04-2003 07:53									#170
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Theseus, if we lose an attack and Vox hits Arashi, we'll have three cats, three pikes, two wounded medieval infantry (3/4 and 2/3), and a healthy WC for Vox to hit before they start getting into wounded WCs. That's against four healthy vet immortals, two healthy regular immortals, whatever is left of the vet immortal we attack, and a vet immortal with only one hit point left. We could probably hold without really terrible casualties, but if the RNG goes against us, it could get nasty.

	28-04-2003 07:56									#171
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quote: Vox Daily War Report for 610BC - From the Voxian Ministry of Information It was an "interesting" turn. (yes, dear, I love that dress. ) To start with - a number of inferior Voxian units which were positioned as decoys were eliminated as expected by Gathering Storm forces. This allowed General Jon to push south - discovering the city of Tempest. And oh yes - Dissident the Deadly eliminated a veteran pikeman in the process. It is also now apparent that GS has a navy - although, as it is obvious that the infidels must use women to fight ther land battles, their galleys are manned by children and old men pressed into service by the debased leadership which runs the country. All in all, Voxian military leaders are not dissatisfied with the progress of the war. Despite some minor losses - major in-roads are being made into Storm territory. May The One bless the Voxian troops in the field and showthem the path to Victory.

The Voxian spin is out...

	28-04-2003 07:58									#172
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We should challenge Vox's "men" to a ship race.

	28-04-2003 08:08									#173
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He is starting to sound more and more as Sarif(sp?) every day...

	28-04-2003 08:10									#174
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Why not? Vox's situation is starting to look more and more like Iraq's every day.

	28-04-2003 08:15									#175
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Was out of the loop today, and I"m sorry I missed the festivities! But....it looks like things are well in hand. Each turn that goes by, the Voxian army looks less and less threatening....already up to "average" with them.....they must be squirming!

-=Vel=-

	28-04-2003 08:17									#176
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Was Iraq ever advancing down the Rocky Mountains?

	28-04-2003 08:24									#177
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Soon

	28-04-2003 08:24									#178
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Was Iraq ever advancing down the Rocky Mountains?

No, and neither will Vox be after a couple more turns if all goes well.

	28-04-2003 08:25									#179
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We still need to make a final decision on whether our eastern galleys should go on the same tile or set up a blockade.

With the western galley, I'm tempted to move to Whirlwind 4-4 this turn for maximum exploration. That shouldn't delay the earliest we can land a couple pikes in Voxian lands to try to cut their iron road.

	28-04-2003 08:26									#180
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Vel, what's your view on Theseus's idea of attacking with our healthy vet medieval infantry instead of fortifying?