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Whaleboy
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Jan 2003
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"Well, the main source, the wellspring so to speak, of al-qaeda operations was in afghanistan, so I supported the invasion. Something had to be done"
In principle perhaps, but not in practice, didnt really serve any purpose. A few people were captured, a few cells destroyed, a few training camps destroyed. Meantime America gets greater influence in that region, close to the central asian oil fields and china.
If they really wanted to stop the terrorism, theyd change their foreign policy, and have a more concerted, long term, low profile intelligence op.
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Sava
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GO GO GO!
Mar 2001
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by elijah
Is it true that the democrats actually got more votes than the republicans??? If so, why do the electoral colleges have any power whatsoever? |
Yes... even in Florida, where the recount was stopped, Gore came out 50,000 votes ahead. Funny how that happened in the state where Jeb Bush is governor. Overall, Gore got close to a million more votes. But that's water under the bridge now.
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I dont like Saddam either, as a libertarian, he is everything that I fight against. However, my views, like the Americans on him are subjective, but I for one like to think that I have the objectivity to step back, view the big picture, and recognise the flaw of forcing my point of view on someone else. That is after what war is... the imposition of will. |
Yes. I wouldn't be so up in arms against the war if it truly was about liberation. But Bush cares more about passing on pork and wasting taxpayer money than any moral cause. Iraq was planned well in advance of him even taking office, let alone 9-11. The most outrageous load of crap he sold the American people was equating 9-11 with Saddam. Most polls around the US showed that the majority of people think Saddam directly was responsible for 9-11. Democracy cannot function in the face of such ignorance.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:28
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The notion that it was done for beaurocratic reasons is absurd, and another outright lie. WMD and ties to Al qaeda were chosen because that was the only way to make the case to the American people that Iraq was a direct threat to the US. Yesterday in ahrdball they showed a poll taken March 20, for the reason people backed the war: 27% said regime change was most important, 48% said removal of WMD's. The only way the Admin. could have built the type of public support they did was to paint Saddam as a direct threat (hence the inclusion in the Axis of evil, whic had to be about more than just being a dictator).
The sad part is that the People, the same that didn;t really care about liberation, now accept that liberation wasd always what they hoped for, and if the info. on WMD's was incorrect, well, harmless lie.... I wonder how mnay more "harmless" lie from this admin., or just from future governments will the people of the US allow.
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