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Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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I don't know him personally, but others have vouched for him. As long as he doesn't give us any special information about the other continent until we fully discover it then I'm fine with him joining.

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I would also agree to having Astrologix join our team as an observer only, at least for some time - that's, after all, what he asks for, right?

Naturally, he must have his lips sealed whenever it comes to anything from his Grenouilles life - as if he was born again to Apolyton with no knowledge of what happened before...

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I agree with the current "consensus:"

Let him him, but he shouldn't say anything about the fate of his team or the other continent (as interesting as it would be to know).

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I'm more than willing to vouch for astrologix. He's a great guy and has been a valued member of the RP Team.

There are others on RP that were also members of Grenoule. I'd be willing to vouch for any one of them.

As for WHEN he should join, we need to check with 1BC on that.

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Astrologix should be allowed to join Apolyton as an observer, as requested, immediately. If he wanted to divulge information to Apolyton member's, he does not need to be a member of this team to do so. So, keeping him out would not prevent that from happening.

As far as him becoming an active Apolyton member, that is another question. I see no problem with him offering his advice in the forums on how to deal with GCA or CFC. But, he has info about the other civs that we do not know that may affect what we do or think about GWT or another team.

When will the information he knows about the other teams become moot to Apolyton? Maybe never(the end of the game), maybe soon. Who's qualified to answer this question? I don't think anyone is more qualified to know this than Astrologix himself.

I'm sure there were some member's of CDG that knows things about GCA that we do not know. Are they allowed to join our team and divulge that information now? How can any person who joins this team, from another team, keep the information he or she has seperate from his or her opinions about our team in this forum? As much as one would try to forget what has transpired in the past, one cannot completely expunge that from their mind's while offering legitimate advice for another team.

I offer that no one be allowed to join any other team in an active role unless all teams unanimously vote to allow such a move. This vote should be based on a a "from this team to that team" basis. Otherwise, we should allow any other team member, from an extinct team, to join as an observer only.

Would we at Apolyton vote to allow CDG member's to join GWT or even CGN? Think about that for a minute before you decide. What would those members know about us, that we don't want the other teams to know....

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OK - I posted the matter for discussion at 1BC. Will keep you apprised.

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I didn't mean to smear the person, I just didn't like the circumstances of his offer.

If he comes to join our team to assist our team in legal and fair ways, more power to him.

(Just don't take his advice on military matters.)

* Fried-Psitalon ducks and runs for his life.

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I didn't mean to smear the person, I just didn't like the circumstances of his offer.

If he comes to join our team to assist our team in legal and fair ways, more power to him.

(Just don't take his advice on military matters.)

* Fried-Psitalon ducks and runs for his life.


I understood where you were comming from F-P. English is not Astrologix's first language, so while his initial offer may have sounded a little weird to you, I knew he meant no harm because I knew him from the RP team as do many others.

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An interesting issue.... Although I too would vouch for astro, and my dislike of those who tried to prevent any member of a dead team from joining a still living team at the UN angered and disappoitned me (miccofl has a LOT to answer for), I have to concede this will be very very difficult for astro. We can't have him seal his lips for the whole game, but then this is the only way to prevent ANY knowledge we may not ordinarily be privy to from reaching those of us here right now. If we get the UN to accept this, it seems we may need to agree amongst ourselves and astro on a time beyond which any old info he may have will be effectively so out-of-date as to be useless.

I would be interested in others' opinions, especially astro himself - is it an acceptable idea for him to not participate in any game matters relating to the other continent for some stand-down period?

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To avoid any complications, I suggest that he is allowed to lurk only, until we get a "good idea" of what's going on on the other continent (which probably involves World Maps).

Some people are very touchy about these matters...let's not make any enemies at the UN.


Dominae

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Some people are very touchy about these matters...let's not make any enemies at the UN.


not to mention the team(s) that defeated his. If he was a visible member of Grenouille, and there was some nastiness or whatnot involved, he might bring a taint over with him, especially if he is unfettered. A lurker only, or for parts regarding the unknown continent, would hopefullly assuage any fears of our opponents, but who knows. A whole lot of messiness, this matter.

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On a separate note - Niessuh has been authorized for entry to the ISDG. He has been vouched for by both myself and the author of evil plans - Master Zen.

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Welcome to the team Niessuh. You are coming in right at the most exciting part! WAR!!!

Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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Welcome Niessuh. Glad to have you aboard.

Niessuh is offline Niessuh
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Welcome to the team Niessuh. You are coming in right at the most exciting part! WAR!!!


Hello! It is a pride to be here.
except for somebody (like MZ, with which we always tend to be neighbors in every PBEM we play) I don't know you much, because since I arrived at this forum (half year- seems much more) I have limited to post at the Spanish forum. Just in the last months with PTWDG II I have left the shell.

I want to explain my nickname. Probably many of you have read 'Niessuh' from right to left, and thinks that I have some kind of affinity with the celebrity. Absolutely not. I post that nick due to the first game which I won in Deity level, playing with the Babylonians and without attacking nor once a single neighbor. Diplomatic Victory of course, I was the antithesis of Hussein

I read english fine, but for me it's difficult to write it. That is because I learned it reading from all kind of strategy games, like Battletech or Warhammer 40K, so don't expect long existentialist post coming from me.

About Astrologix, it should be a thorny matter, but everything what I can say is that Astro is the most legal player than I know. He introduced me to the world of the PBEM and without a doubt his intention to enter here is for keep enjoying the greatest event of his favorite game. Just like me

*Niessuh submerges in the informative overdose*

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Welcome Niessuh, it was about time we had you around!

Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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I just bumped Rush's historical log of events. It's a good place to start.

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Makahlua (sp?) was authorized for entry to the ISDG a couple days ago. Sorry, forgot to post.

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Good news! Arrian has been authorized for entry to the ISDG.

(btw - is the work complete on that tank for Grog?)

Arrian is offline Arrian
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I do believe I provided a shot of Grog with Tank in one of the AU games (the huge map, Egypt one). So yeah, he's gotten his Tank. But he's always up for acquiring more.

Hmm, looks like I have a lot of catching up to do. How appropriate that it is Friday.

-Arrian

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Glad to have you aboard Arrian

Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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Welcome to the ISDG Arrian. I always wondered why you had never joined.

So has anyone told him yet?.....

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Welcome Arrian!

Arrian is offline Arrian
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Welcome to the ISDG Arrian. I always wondered why you had never joined.

So has anyone told him yet?.....




Told me what?

-Arrian

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M10 'Grog' died on the first day of our offensive against GCA.

The spear that brought him down did not outlive him too much, though...

Arrian is offline Arrian
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Grog went down to a spear?

He's gotten complacent. I'll have to have a little "chat" with him. He's not getting any tanks if he's going around losing battles in which he has the advantage!

-Arrian

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Told me what?

-Arrian


Told you that you are on the team, I guess.

Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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Told you that you are on the team, I guess.


No, that Grog was a casualty. Grog is a bit of a legend in both the strat forum and PTWDG.

Arrian is offline Arrian
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Grog is dead, long live Grog! Heh, he's gotten killed off in both Demogames in which he's taken part (PTWDemoI, killed by Eli the Eliminator, and now here).

If we're short on names for units, we could always use "Son of Grog" or somesuch thing.

I'm touched he was included, even though I wasn't on the team. *wipes eyes*

-Arrian

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Look at it this way: if grog dies in the opening stages of a war, it is an omen that the war will be won eventually. Grog is the sacrificial lamb of victory.

 
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