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Jan 2003
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I've done it - I've traveled to Venice, Helsinki, Stockholm, Mauro Lucano, Naples, Rome, old cities in Austria and Switzerland, etc...
Have you been to Boston?
Of course it's not the same, I'm just saying that they're equal in my eyes as far as beauty goes. |
Actually not Boston, but I have been to Philadelphia which also has a pretty important historic core, and of course NY (and yes, it is very funny to see Frauncis Tavern surrounded by 50-story banks)
I'll spare NY from this critique as many of its skyscrapers are of neo-gothic/neo-classic/art deco which tend to blend well with historic buildings.
All in all I like the Washington DC style as no skyscrapers are allowed in the center and even new buildings are given a neo-classic look (like the Ronald Reagan Convention Center). I like the homogenious aspect of it despite my constant arguments with an architect friend about this...  Tall buildings are only found once you cross the potomac into Arlington and despite the fact they aren't too tall, the skyline looks pretty cool from the other side.
Perhaps my gripe with Boston is that I don't find the skysrapers particularly attactive. Most are pretty lame. Perhaps if they looked more like Frankfurt's...
(for the record I plan on visiting Boston at the end of the year... )
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Colon
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Antwerp, Colon's Chocolate Canard Country
Jan 1970
time: 06:28
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Originally posted by GePap
Colon:
That pic of 6th Avenue between 42nd and 43th is very New York. those buildings might be low, but the price of buying them and the airspace above them that is regulated), then tryoing to build something large on it (and thus disrupting watermain, telephone lines and the subway line underneath (the D,B, F lines) would be monumental. All over New York you see empty lots, abandones buldings and all sorts of underused space right in the middle of Skyscrappers. |
I noticed that as well actually, though blocks are rather filled up compared to what I've seen elsewhere. It's just that I remember that particular spot well because the contrast was nowhere greater than there. (IIRC I had just been going down from the Rockenfeller centre that moment)
I already knew about rent controls, but are you saying that the purchase of land is also regulated in NY? Looks pretty shitty to me.
Last edited by Colon on 08-06-2003 at 19:50
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
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Frankfurt is a shithole.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by Colon
I noticed that as well actually, though blocks are rather filled up compared to what I've seen elsewhere. It's just that I remember that particular spot well because the contrast was nowhere greater than there. (IIRC I had just been going down from the Rockenfeller centre that moment)
I already knew about rent controls, but are you saying that the purchase of land is also regulated in NY? Looks pretty shitty to me. |
I don't think it is a matter of regulation's, per say. While those buildings may be small, as you said, the land values are huge. I don;t think any one company would go throught the trouble of trying to buy out each of the individual businesses in that block to build another skyscrapper, since it would be very expensive. Besides, all those business do well, given that all the office workers of that area need someplace to eat. I would imagine that the owners of those establishments do make money, and might not be too eager to sell, if they could find a buyer.New York architecture is a very motley thing, since overall, there really are very few laws about trying to make neighborhoods all fit one aesthetic theme, or fit together.
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Colon
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Antwerp, Colon's Chocolate Canard Country
Jan 1970
time: 06:28
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Originally posted by GePap
I don't think it is a matter of regulation's, per say. While those buildings may be small, as you said, the land values are huge. I don;t think any one company would go throught the trouble of trying to buy out each of the individual businesses in that block to build another skyscrapper, since it would be very expensive. Besides, all those business do well, given that all the office workers of that area need someplace to eat. I would imagine that the owners of those establishments do make money, and might not be too eager to sell, if they could find a buyer.New York architecture is a very motley thing, since overall, there really are very few laws about trying to make neighborhoods all fit one aesthetic theme, or fit together. |
If land value is sky-high at that spot, the landlord is missing out a lot of rent he'd receive if he'd own a high-rise. (since land value is only high at a spot when lots of business want to be active there) If he doesn't have the funds to build an office block, it probably still would make a lot more sense to sell it to a developer, as he'd pay more than the landlord could earn in entire life with rents. (and it would still be beneficial for the developer as well)
I've seen quite a bit of construction going on in the neighbourhood, as well as plenty of recent high-rise, so surely developers won't have been shy of going after that spot as well.
That's why I suspect there are other factors playing a role, aside of pure economic ones. (maybe regulations, maybe practical problems, like the subways beneath it, maybe a fall out... )
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