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Colon is offline Colon
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A sad state of affairs, really


Hey man, that was one of the biggest skylines in Europe. A century or 5 ago.

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You can see Canada Tower and some of the other Docklands skyscrapers (HSBC and Citigroup) from near my home. Although from this distance they aren't very big to look at.

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Here's Antwerp's skyline



I see a red 'X'. or is this what you meant by Antwerp's skyline?


I drew a simple paint sketch to represent how would that look like, following the Parisian model. and yes, I know that the Parisian skyscraper neighbourhood is rather small.

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Because they're ugly.


that's one of the reasons.
oslo has only two skyscrapers (or high-rises, what's the definition? they're about 110 m) in the city centre. they look totally out of place and should be torn down

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Because they're ugly.


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It is a skyscraper, they just had to build a small one because "the view of the cathedral must not be obstructed"
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If only they'd make me mayor, I'd burn the whole city down and then rebuild it in a Albert-Speer-meets-Hongkong style



-Damn christians


Oi mate, I'm not religious, far from, but don't even think of touching our beloved Cathedral !!
They've taken down enough as it is, just to please a couple politicians and rich b*stards...

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I would say skyscrapers are 40+ or 50+ stories. 150m+. The Empire State Building is 381 meters. Using these criteria, there are 186 such skyscrapers in New York City.

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It seems that europeans are against progress. sigh.

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Even Third World Panama is ahead!



Some beautifull cocaine towers!

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GePap: That's also because you have a Colon Free Zone!

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Given the Hell on earth that is the city of Colon, well...

Trust me when I say that most of the buildindings you see there have 20-30% occupancy at best, yet they report profits...

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Costa Rica is more legal.. San Jose Skyline:



They always had the reputation for being the more stable country in Latin America..

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GePap:

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Nothing compares to this



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San Jose my butt! That is one measly building!

I found a great site about Skyscrappers (they define them as buildings over 90 Meters tall), and they rankedf Skylines!

Panama City came in at 36th! It has 49 buildings over 90 meters, more than London, Tel Aviv, Detroit, Maimi and others.

As for the cities with the most buildings over 90 meters:

1.NYC, 783
2. Hong Kong, 656
3.Chicago, 306
4.Shanghai, 298
5. Tokyo, 269.

Tokyo scores higher than Shanghai in the skyline poll, so the ranking is just not about numbers, but I guess they also take inot account the relative heights.\

Here is the site: great stuff!
http://www.library.tudelft.nl/~egram/skylines.htm

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It might also be preferences. Fort example, while Mexico City is bigger than Sao Paolo, Sao Paolo has a skyline and Mexico City has few buildings over 30 stories. Even Panama city and it's cocaine towers have a better skyline than Mexico City.


I think that's because 30+ floors buildings in Mexico are banned due to the earthquakes, but I'm not sure.
Down here we don't have buildings over than 50 floors due to the architectural regulations and to the earthquakes measures.

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Got spare money?

Maybe you forgot the fact that we don't really need these big towers...

I can't think of much business consortiums with enough money to invest in such a building, when there is no real benefit to it.

Also, Azazel, in my opinion, building skyscrapers next to a city with a lot of historical, old buildings is not ideal. It's ugly, and it causes a lot of congestion due to the fact that all those people that go to work in those skyscrapers have to get there, but they can't enter via the old city part, as there is no room there for a lot of cars etc...
In central Flanders, which is almost one huge populated area traffic is a big problem already so making a huge amount of people go to work in a small area is not easy. Plus there is actually no room for a new city zone with skyscrapers, unless you go destroying city quarters...

Maybe another thing is that our cities aren't big enough. Only Antwerp and Brussels would be a bit suitable...

Our country is just too overpopulated! it's just frikking horrible to see... Where I live there is absolutely no piece of land that has not been conquered by human species
No tranquility... cars .... planes... dirty polluted air... and even more cars...

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Actually, i was wrong. Mexico has less Skyscrappers than Sao Paolo, but its highest building is heigher. Really tall buildings are safer in earthquakes.Check out the site.

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Here is the site: great stuff!
http://www.library.tudelft.nl/~egram/skylines.htm


Hey Dan, do you see Washington somewhere in there?

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GePap: Yokohama is basically together with Tokyo, I don't think it would be fair to separate them.

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More seriously, I'm surprised Tokyo ranks up that high in the list. Never thought of it as a city of skycrapers. (guess they do have a lot of high-rise, just not of the megalomanian kind like in NYC or Shangai)

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NYC is not Megalomanian, now at least. It was this way in the beginning of the century. They invented the Skyscraper!

Petronas Towers. THAT'S megalomaniac!

Love the city hall btw.

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I didn;t make the site. Is Yokahama part of the city of Tokyo? o their skylines meld together?

Interestingly, the voters did not laways agree with the results of the algorithm. For example:

They voted Chicago higher than New York for NA.

Tel Aviv much higher than Dubai, while they are very close in the Algorithm for the Mid East.

Panama city as having the best Skyline in Latin America, higher than Mexico, Sao Paolo, and all others.


I think the big difference is that the Algorithm looks for mass blocks of tall buildings, and penalizes buildings that stand all alone, while people don;t do so. Many of the buildings in NY make little impact because they are one out of a HUge mass, a wall of tall buildings, while in Chicago they stand much more apart, and it is easier to distinguish them.

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It seems that skyscrappers consume great amounts of energy, and Europe has acquired an energy-saving reflex after 1973 (cars consuming 4 to 5 liters per 100 km are ordinary now, electric bulbs with low consumption, isolation of homes etc).

Another factor could be that european men of power satisfy their ego by other means ...

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DAVOUT: of course they do. There are lots of people in them.

GePap: for me, there is a certain optimum. Buildings too close together are not good, but buildings standing completely apart are not good, either. THey should stand together, but not be tightly packed.

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I like the Walls of Buildings, for me that is art of the factor. The Thing with NYC is that all the Skyscrappers are concentrated in2 boroughs, Manhattan, and downtown Brooklyn. In other boroughs there are just 1, and it looks rather silly.

Now, in Manhattan, you get 2 masses of buildings, a small one at the south end (where the WTC was) and then a much bigger one in the middle, that goes on for a mile or more. The Empire State stands almost alone, with a few buildings around it.

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Hey Dan, do you see Washington somewhere in there?


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Cool diagram of the top 10 skyscrappers:
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?1178316

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Ahh, the Queens skycraper.

anyway, Manhattan is great. But I wish there were more intersting construction forms there. Not enough glass. Btw,Did you see that new Saudi skyscraper? Wow.

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Panama city as having the best Skyline in Latin America, higher than Mexico, Sao Paolo, and all others.


Not true.

I think either Sao Paolo, Santiago or even Buenos Aires have the best right now. Buenos Aires sadly has been feeling the effects of bad economic performance but still has a nice skyline.

Santiago, Chile:




(Telecommunications tower)





Buenos Aires, Argentina:

http://users.skynet.be/stael.martin...o%20Madero1.jpg (photo too large to display)

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When China Unites, it will have a hefty position in the top 10.

 
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