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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Boddington's
"No. "Racism" is when you ‘hate’ another ethnic group. We don't 'hate' black people, we don't 'hate' Asians, we don't oppose any ethnic group for what God made them, they have a right to their own identity as much as we do, all we want to do is to preserve the ethnic and cultural identity of the British people. |
Exactly the official speech of Le Pen when he attempts to be respectable (the big strategy when he made it to the runoff last year), if you turn "British" into "French" of course 
It doesn't make the reality of his party and himself less dire, that is a party of hatred towards the foreigners and the minorities, a party that uses violence as an ordinary political tool, a party whose members, including the highest profile ones are all willing to say blacks are inferior when the press isn't listening 
BTW, all organised racist parties use this kind of propaganda when talking outside of the party (Italy neofascists do the exact same). I fail to see how the BNP is any better. Oh I forgot : you Rosbifs are the best of the best in the world 
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003
time: 05:28
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"Weren't you campaigning against the decimation of other cultures in the anti-globalisation thread?
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Yes, decimation, augmentation with elements of ours is fine.
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You want British culture to die and everyone else's to thrive, or..?
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Nice little strawman there. I dont want "british culture" to die out, I think its good that its being augmented. One of the greatest flaws in the BNP's arguments is that idea that British culture is dying out, in the face of immigrant cultures. Sure its changing, for the better, augmenting elements of theirs with ours, and ours with theirs (cricket, saturday night plastering etc), but its not dying out. If you want to go for a sunday afternoon game of football (a chinese game 3000 years ago), or a pint of beer (german), or fish and chips (french), then there is nothing stopping you, or nothing that would deem it socially unacceptable. That will remain so in Britain. If you want to convert to Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism etc, go out for a chicken tandoori, or listen to Asian music, or Rap, or Blues etc, then the same applies. Two different cultures merge, forming one greater than the sum of its component parts. Surely you would agree that was the case with German, French, Iberian, Spanish, Celtic etc cultures that form what you call "British culture".
Nonetheless, races may exist to you, to others, to racists, and to people who deem themselves as members of a certain race, and that is fine, its like a football team, but to others, they do not. In this context, both are equally valid. Its a Heisenberg thing 
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I'd agree about some of the flawed economic views. That is their biggest and most severe flaw.
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True, although I'd say the institutionalised racism, the riding on the back of racism in the North, the policies of active discrimination, the maintainance of a subjective justice system, and the desire to encourage immigrants to go back to their nation of origin, is somewhat flawed itself. Seems to be fueled by a simplistic, racist, subjective reaction to people, who dont like change, who want to maintain the unmaintainable, and who have some kind of inherent hostile reaction to those who are incoming. I doubt the reaction would be the same the immigrants were Austrian or Swedish!!
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