11-06-2003 18:51									#121
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In the week since the Akaba summit, 10 suicide bomber wannabes were arrested by Israel.

But that's ok, Israel should suffer through everything as long as it doesnt provoke the Arabs.

	11-06-2003 18:54									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Eli A few minutes ago helicopters fired missiles on a car in the Gaza strip, rumors say that Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi was killed. He was #2 in the Hamas and was the official Hamas spokesman. If that's true, . I always wanted to see the ****er dead. Here's a report about the dismantling of the outposts : http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast...east/index.html (some were already rebuilt by the settlers)

hi ,

"withdraw is not "evacuation" , .....

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	12-06-2003 22:54									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Sava that logic doesn't work with the "war on drugs", Oerdin... Why would it work with "terror"? Whenever you chop off a head, a new one grows and takes it's place.

because one is about economics, and one about politics. Drug suppliers stay in business because their is a demand for drugs - which is caused by the situation among drug users. Terrorism (where it is deeply rooted - analgous to drug war) is driven by social and political situations. Situations which are themselves exacerbated by terrorism. By physically destroying the terrorists, one may create the space to fix the social/political situation. If by destroying drug suppliers one could create the "space" to solve the drug demand problem, the drug war would be a good idea. If not, not. OTOH if by physically destroying terrorists you worsen the political/social situation, then this will not be effective. It must be examined on a case by case and act by act basis.

	12-06-2003 23:06									#124
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Excellent post LotM. It is very true, that one should never forget to deal with the fundamental causes of the problem as well with the current manifestations of the problem, rather than to focus on only one side of the scope

	15-06-2003 10:10									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Excellent post LotM. It is very true, that one should never forget to deal with the fundamental causes of the problem as well with the current manifestations of the problem, rather than to focus on only one side of the scope

Spiffor, I have been thinking about this for awhile and I must agree with your post. The very serious problem with this peace plan is that it calls for and end to "terrorism" as a first step while deferring to a time later issues fundamental to Hamas and the other terror groups: the RoR, Jerusalem, etc. This was the same problem Oslo had, it deferred the serious discussions 'til later. When those discussions failed at Camp David, the current war began.

If one hopes to gain the "cooperation" of Hamas, the serious issues must be addressed first. If they are addressed, I assume that Hamas and the other terror groups may agree to a cease fire.

Why this "Road Map" look so much like Oslo II is literally incomprehensible. It is almost as if the drafters could learn nothing from experience.

	15-06-2003 22:20									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Spiffor, I have been thinking about this for awhile and I must agree with your post. The very serious problem with this peace plan is that it calls for and end to "terrorism" as a first step while deferring to a time later issues fundamental to Hamas and the other terror groups: the RoR, Jerusalem, etc. This was the same problem Oslo had, it deferred the serious discussions 'til later. When those discussions failed at Camp David, the current war began. If one hopes to gain the "cooperation" of Hamas, the serious issues must be addressed first. If they are addressed, I assume that Hamas and the other terror groups may agree to a cease fire. Why this "Road Map" look so much like Oslo II is literally incomprehensible. It is almost as if the drafters could learn nothing from experience.

hi ,

dont worry as far as it seems we and trhe pals are now drawing up our very own roadmap , .......

no more oslo or oslo two , ....

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	16-06-2003 02:32									#127
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , dont worry as far as it seems we and trhe pals are now drawing up our very own roadmap , ....... no more oslo or oslo two , .... have a nice day

Good. You implement the Road Map by tearing it up, drawing up your own Road Map and proceeding accordingly. So long as you keep using the "word" Road Map, the Europeans and the Bushites will be happy.

	17-06-2003 04:32									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Good. You implement the Road Map by tearing it up, drawing up your own Road Map and proceeding accordingly. So long as you keep using the "word" Road Map, the Europeans and the Bushites will be happy.

hi ,

sort off , ....

aint politics a great thing , ......

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