12-06-2003 04:59									#121
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Yeah, and the US and the US citizens are the uncle and cousins, the uncle has no right of parenthood over the Iraqis.

One point of objectivity is that subjectively, as a libertarian, I hate saddam, I hate totalitarianism, I dream of a society where people are free and equal, and unoppressed. However, my views are of course subjective, I keep them to myself and though I advocate them here, I do not believe they shuold be forced on societies that do thigns differently, be them dicatorships etc, because my way of doing things is no less subjective than theirs, although I advocate it to be done in a certain way, like with societies and the way one deals with societies as discussed here.

Nonetheless, great debate, actually very enjoyable but I must leave, I have to finish an article

	12-06-2003 05:03									#122
	Remove this text

quote: we're still arguing from two different plateaus. ur cultural relativism is just not a view I hold so I think we're firing shots that are missing both our targets because we don't believe in the same fundamental value. it happens

Indeed it does. If we have the same value, or argue from that same value, methinks great things can be done!

I must confess the limits of my philosophical knowledge, I started in metaphysics and am not familiar with the term "cultural relativism", in this sense, I developed it merely from objectivity and a small dose of platonic idealism.

What is your fundamental value? Would it be the right of parenthood for the uncle over the nephews?

	12-06-2003 05:05									#123
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Scratch that, I googled it, its basically a relation of epistimology + idealism (Russell esque). THEY HAD A BABY!!!

	12-06-2003 05:12									#124
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

k bye=D