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Giancarlo
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Los Angeles
Apr 2000
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http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapit...ialistmyth.html
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This list explains some of the psychological motives behind the neo-socialist/communist motives as well as identifies some major sub movements within the socialist/communist movements as well as the thinking, and fallacies, behind these movements.
The Poser Commie Movement:
Possibly accounting for over 90% of the people who claim to be socialists or communists, the poser commie movement is typically followed by those of younger age groups. Most who follow this movement tend to adopt socialism for the sole purpose of social deviance and protest of society's values. In other words, they hear that communism conflicts with freedom, morality, and other mainstream societal values so they claim to be communists to protest exactly such. Poser commie followers rarely demonstrate any actual knowledge themselves of the communist and socialist philosophy, though openly claiming to endorse the philosophy. The poser commie movement is not one of true socialism as it adopts only a title of "socialism" with limited and extremely shallow substance behind it. This movement's motives tend to be limited to a mentality that communism and socialism are against what America stands for and what society teaches one to stand for and therefore must "cool." Based almost entirely on a desire to find a method to "defy" and "protest" freedom and democracy with a seemingly obvious opposition to it, poser communism is little more than a following of fraudulent foolishness.
Socialist and Communist Ideologue Movement:
Typically comprised of those who have extensively studied Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky's writings (and often little more), this movement rarely acknowledges the dismal failures of the communist and socialist philosophies when instituted in practice. Often claiming "True communism has never really been instituted" and insisting that if it were, it would work, the ideologue movement often follows utopian dreams rather than recognizing the flaws of reality. Numerous ideologue web sites promising a better society while claiming to sympathize with the workers in an effort to make everything fair and just have sprung up recently with links to this movement. This ideologue movement is often too deluded to realize flaws exist in the socialist and communist theory and therefore it speaks of a utopia physically unattainable due to inherent flaws and simple impossibility. This highly dogmatic ideologue movement often propagandizes communism and socialism with the writings of Upton Sinclair, John Steinbeck, and Leon Trotsky while trying to force this type of thought on others.
Demagogue Movement:
This small movement is mostly limited to those who seek to use communism and socialism as a facade for achieving power. Many of histories great communist dictators such as Stalin and Castro are perfect examples of demagogues. Quoting communist theories while working their way to power behind the scenes, demagogues often prove extremely tyrannical when finally on top. The demagogue movement is in its own right an uninvited and unwanted branch of communism/socialism that draws to the theory inevitably for communism and socialism often entail wide, unchecked power consolidated in a very defined few plus a resulting need to encroach upon freedom and liberty, as is inherently necessary for implementation of communist and socialist systems.
Old Guard Communist Movement:
The Old Guard Communist Movement is typically a reactionary one comprised of Soviet Union leftovers. Endorsing a return to old Soviet way, though in reality that way was a disastrous failure, as a solution to transition problems in the economies of former Soviet states has become a rallying cry for the Old Guard Movement. |
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Dr. Nick
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Mola mazo!
Oct 2000
time: 01:28
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Originally posted by Fez
Chegitz, did you actually read the book? |
Actually, this is quite a lot the interpretation I gave it. Made the gulag much less political. Almost as if the prisoners and guards, despite different status, accepted that they're all in the same boat.
Additionally, if Solzhenytsin was in a cancer ward, while he'd been in a gulag, and survived, I'd hardly think the gulags were that bad, I mean, if it were as the traditional view of the gulag pictures it, I doubt there'd even be an infirmary, let alone a cancer ward where zeks actually recovered.
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Giancarlo
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Los Angeles
Apr 2000
time: 02:28
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Originally posted by El Awrence
Actually, this is quite a lot the interpretation I gave it. Made the gulag much less political. Almost as if the prisoners and guards, despite different status, accepted that they're all in the same boat.
Additionally, if Solzhenytsin was in a cancer ward, while he'd been in a gulag, and survived, I'd hardly think the gulags were that bad, I mean, if it were as the traditional view of the gulag pictures it, I doubt there'd even be an infirmary, let alone a cancer ward where zeks actually recovered. |
You must look at the facts though, 20-50 million did die under Stalin's dictatorship because of his purges.
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16-06-2003 20:14
Look at the poor United Airlines workers, who supposedly own their company. It was scam and a sham. Management retained control and has driven the company into the ground.
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