14-06-2003 06:50									#61
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they have lost 4 Immortals, and we've lost 6 Pikes.

I'd say they were really lucky.

	14-06-2003 06:55									#62
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hmm, they were indeed.

* alva tries not to read any foul play into it. j/k

	14-06-2003 06:55									#63
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Hugely lucky.

Our walls are down, right?

So even then, our pikes were at 5.25 versus their attack of 4. Shitty luck, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 06:59									#64
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By my count, Vox presumably lost five. (Four of the immortals in the area are presumably reinforcements we saw out of attack range last turn.) But most of their survivors are injured, which gives us a better chance holding out until reinforcements arrive.

	14-06-2003 07:05									#65
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Both cats missed, so we'd have to go through an uninjured vet pike to get to the elite immortal. The question is, do we want to do that or go after the veteran immortal at I3? (In the latter case, our second MedInf would likely do better fortifying than attacking if the first succeeds, since his only options would be to attack uninjured vet pikes or put himself out in the open for Vox to attack him.)

	14-06-2003 07:07									#66
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Hmm...

Hit the vet, then. Let's be cautious about this.

Kill the vet immortal and hole up.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:08									#67
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I'd say I3... our job for the moment is to lessen the threat without risking too many hps.

	14-06-2003 07:10									#68
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I moved a galley, and Vox has a vet warrior at I3-3-2.

	14-06-2003 07:12									#69
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The vet at I3 is dead. (Edit: We took two hit points' damage.) Oh what I wouldn't give to still have an elite WC in Inchon to go after the regular and withdraw back to the city (assuming it wins)!

	14-06-2003 07:15									#70
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Good job.

Off topic:



Yankees win, thhhhhhaaaaaa Yankees win! Clemens wins his 300th. Mariano nails it down.

That's better. Much, much better, boys (than being no-hit by the freakin' Astros).

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:16									#71
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You should see NYC tonight!

	14-06-2003 07:17									#72
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quote: The vet at I3 is dead. Oh what I wouldn't give to still have an elite WC in Inchon to go after the regular and withdraw back to the city (assuming it wins)!

I'm not sure, but couldn't we get one there if we take Elipolis?

	14-06-2003 07:17									#73
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Do we want to take a shot at Elipolis and see if we might be able to capture or raze it, or do we want to pull our troops back to Inchon?

	14-06-2003 07:19									#74
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quote: Originally posted by alva I'm not sure, but couldn't we get one there if we take Elipolis?

No. We'd need (1) roads that don't exist and (2) Vox's other forces out of the way.

	14-06-2003 07:19									#75
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We have what, 2 elite WCs & a vet med inf to hit it with, plus a pike for cover?

Why not attack with a WC or two, and see how things go. If we are winning, keep going. If we lose/retreat, run away.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:24									#76
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I agree... let's almost always try to use any WCs , as they have negligible defense value.

	14-06-2003 07:25									#77
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We have three vet MedInfs, two elite WCs, and two pikes there, but we need to pull at least one pike and probably both back to Inchon. Vox almost certainly has at least three vet spears, one of them fortified, there.

There is no way I want to use our elite WCs (read potential leaders) against uninjured vet spears behind walls. The idea would be to attack with MedInfs and keep up the attack if the MedInfs are winning but break off if one of the first two MedInfs loses (except maybe if the second leaves its target very badly injured) or if Vox still has an uninjured or only slightly injured spear after our third MedInf attack.

	14-06-2003 07:25									#78
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quote: No. We'd need (1) roads that don't exist and (2) Vox's other forces out of the way.

I meant;
Take city->load (WC) on galley-->move to inchon->unload->attack->move back into inchon

	14-06-2003 07:29									#79
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quote: Originally posted by alva I meant; Take city->load (WC) on galley-->move to inchon->unload->attack->move back into inchon

That would presumably work. Great thinking! I don't think odds are good that we'd be able to take Elipolis without having to use all our offensive units in the attack, but it would work if we could.

	14-06-2003 07:32									#80
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Oh, for some reason I didn't remember that Eliopolis had walls. Sorry about that.

I wanna attack.

Must... have... blood. Must... kill... Vox...

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:36									#81
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Hit them with the med infs, and see what happens. If the first one loses, break off. If the first one wins, and the second one loses... depends on how much damage it did. If the first two win, and the third does damage (or wins), and we get past uninjured spears, use the WCs.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:36									#82
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First two MedInf attacks succeeded, but our attackers are down to one hit point each. The third failed, taking two hit points off the Voxian spear. A vet warrior is now showing, so I'm taking in the WCs.

	14-06-2003 07:37									#83
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Rock on, baby!

-Arrian, seeker of Voxian blood.

	14-06-2003 07:38									#84
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Elipolis is ours! Do we keep it or raze it?

	14-06-2003 07:39									#85
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Do we lose anything by keeping it for at least this turn?

They don't have fastmovers, right? So, if they can threaten it next turn, we can abandon and bail, right?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:40									#86
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Great

I think keep it, if only for the cultural borders.

	14-06-2003 07:40									#87
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Not to mention public outcry

	14-06-2003 07:41									#88
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I'd love to rename it "We're Coooooming!" but that would be a bit much, I admit.

The 5 drinks must've gone to my head.

-Arrian

edit: had to find the right emoticon. Damn computer should know what I mean!

	14-06-2003 07:47									#89
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Nathan, are there any Voxian units directly adjacent to Eliopolis?

If not, we're safe for this turn. Razing it gains us nothing.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 07:49									#90
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They have two pikes beside Elipolis