14-06-2003 07:52									#91
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Ok, so unless we put 1 pike in there, they could take it back.

Can we spare the 1 pike?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:02									#92
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It's a pop three city, so razing it would get us what, one slave? (You can tell how rarely I raze in SP. ) The other problem is that keeping the city stretches our defenses thinner. We'd have to expose WCs to attack by pikes in Elipolis (one has 4hp left and the other, I think, two or three), expose 1hp MedInfs to anything Vox might have in Beta-by-the-Sea or Harry's Hideout, and/or leave Inchon a lot more poorly defended than I'm comfortable with (especially with three cats around). And if Vox thinks to pillage the road from Inchoff to Inchon, they can attack Elipolis a lot faster than we can reinforce with anything more than two additional MedInfs (currently on a galley that can land in either city next turn).

Also, if Vox has done any pop rushing in Elipolis lately, do you have any idea how razing vs. capturing and abandoning would affect the current tendency for unhappiness to move when cities are abandoned?

	14-06-2003 08:05									#93
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We currently have a healthy elite pike, a healthy vet pike, a 2hp vet pike, and a 2hp vet MedInf in Inchon. We have a vet MedInf in a galley off Elipolis that would be the logical unit to garrison Elipolis if we want to keep it and guard it with more than our WCs. And we have two pikes that are currently right outside Elipolis.

	14-06-2003 08:09									#94
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Question:

Are our 2 vet pikes next to eliopolis able to load/unload this turn (is there a road by which they can enter eli, and load, and then get unloaded by the galley into Inchon)? Otherwise, would they even help?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:11									#95
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Any resistance in Eliopolis?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:13									#96
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Oh, as to your unhappiness question, I have NO idea.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:15									#97
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Nathan, wait with moving any galleys, we might have some more trouble coming (GOW chat)

They are about to land 4 units (don't know where (yet) )

Someone has a contract on us to land 6 units..

	14-06-2003 08:15									#98
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So we have Elipolis? Excellent. It is significantly more important than Inchon. Well done!

	14-06-2003 08:18									#99
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You only find out about resistance after you decide to keep the city, so we don't know about that yet. Regarding the pikes, my experience has always been that as long as a ship has movement left, it can unload units in a city even though the units themselves have no movement left.

	14-06-2003 08:26									#100
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Hmm... I think you're right. You can do that.

I think I'd like to put a pike in Eliopolis, and unload 1 pike, 1 med inf into Inchon.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:27									#101
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quote: Originally posted by alva Nathan, wait with moving any galleys, we might have some more trouble coming (GOW chat) They are about to land 4 units (don't know where (yet) ) Someone has a contract on us to land 6 units..

What the ****? So GoW is going to land troops against us?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:29									#102
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It's more subtle then that.

Things are ok atm (they don't have to attack, pillage etc, just land)

	14-06-2003 08:31									#103
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You gotta be shittin' me.

Subtle? They landed before. Do they perhaps need a reminder of the results?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:35									#104
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log so far

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/alva/111654683546.txt

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	14-06-2003 08:37									#105
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I get a blank screen, alva.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:46									#106
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Should work now.

	14-06-2003 08:53									#107
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Ok, thanks, now I see it.

Oh, how badly I wish I knew who their "client" is. I assume RP, but it *could* be Lego. I seriously doubt ND.

Bastards.

I love the bit about trades - everyone is working against us.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:55									#108
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So, 4 more units coming, 1 of which is a fastmover.

Great.

Fine, you know what? The time will come for us to set up a contract for GoW to help us hit their current "client."

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 08:56									#109
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Or, alternatively, we could kill their units and then take the war to them for real once we're done with Vox.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 09:00									#110
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Chat is going pretty good, don't despair
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With some luck, some bobians could be in for a surprise soon

	14-06-2003 09:03									#111
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*ponders hitting GoW*

Their land is really nice, and ND might cooperate...

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 09:05									#112
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Why the MedInf in Inchon instead of the MedInf in Elipolis and the pike in Inchon? If Vox attacks Inchon, they'll have enough uninjured immortals (barely) to hit our first four defenders.

And are you sure you want to leave 1hp MedInfs undefended? (Or we could put an unfortified elite WC on the tile and hope he retreats if he gets attacked and loses.)

	14-06-2003 09:06									#113
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I was thinking of having some more hitting power in Inchon at the beginning of next turn.

Upon further reflection, however, I guess you're right. Med inf in Eli, pike in Inchon, pike covering hurt med infs? Perhaps bring the 4hp WC back to Inchon too?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 09:17									#114
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That's an elite too, if I'm not mistaken

	14-06-2003 09:21									#115
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I'm just getting back... WTF??? GoW?

Lemme catch up.

	14-06-2003 09:25									#116
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By the way, if it was Lego that put out the contract, it explains why they might feel they've invested in Vox.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 09:28									#117
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alva, if it isn't too much trouble, can I get another chat update?

I seem to lack the software necessary to log in to the chat, btw.

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 09:34									#118
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you will to look where you left of though

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/al...4214tdyuhdh.txt

	14-06-2003 09:54									#119
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Ah-hah, so Vox promised people Engineering, and now people are worried they won't get it. Makes sense.

Great, let's kill 'em as fast as we can. If people lose out on their investment, too bad for them. They bet on a loser.

Back to the military operations: regarding Eliopolis, we might get money out of capturing it. Maybe not much, but who knows?

-Arrian

	14-06-2003 10:04									#120
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We got four gold with the city. (Which indicates that Vox doesn't have a huge cash reserve. Come to think of it, their GA is presumably over now.)