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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
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About Laporte: Tamerlin explained it quite well. Laporte did very well in the French championship, both as plyaer (scrum half) and as coach. HE was never an international.
I think some of his choices for players are a bit too emotional. In particular, I think he should use Brusque as a fullback more often.
I also hope that France will be able to make a surprise against the all blacks, but don't really believe in it. The pack isn't really what it should be, being somewhat experimental, and we definitely need to find a reliable fly half: Merceron can be good, but he's not as good as he used to be, and noone else has yet reached the level he had - though Michalak could, maybe if he played 10 more often in club. Tamerlin, can you pass the word?
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LDiCesare
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:29
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So France lost and New Zealand won.
Little surprise here. Apaprently, the French played better than they did against Argentina, but still committed many fould, and Rocococo looks like a good player. I didn't see the match, just a few images and comments on TV.
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Caligastia
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Yeah, France did do better than expected. Towards the end of the game when the All Black captian Rueben Thorne got sent off the French actually looked like possibly stealing the game when they got within 5 points. Luckily for NZ, they kicked a penalty and finished with the 8-point lead.
Overall it was a pretty exciting game with plenty of action from both sides. I was getting a bit frustrated with the All Blacks in the lineout because I only saw them contest the French throw-in once in the whole game! What is the point of conceding the lineout to the opposition??
Referee Andre Watson wasn't too bad except for a terrible call that cost NZ a certain try. He blew the whistle for a forward pass that clearly wasn't, just as NZ was about to go over for a try.
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Paradox
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Kent, UK + Cape Town,S.A
Dec 2002
time: 05:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Caligastia
Are you defending Andre Watson? Come on, you have to admit that pass was not forward and that a try was on. |
Not at all. I didnt even mention him!
My referal was to your earlier statement in this thread re the Cocks being better competition than the Boks. But the Argies just beat them 2-0, and weve just beaten the Argies 
Last edited by Paradox on 29-06-2003 at 01:42
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Caligastia
Yeah, France did do better than expected. Towards the end of the game when the All Black captian Rueben Thorne got sent off the French actually looked like possibly stealing the game when they got within 5 points. Luckily for NZ, they kicked a penalty and finished with the 8-point lead.
Overall it was a pretty exciting game with plenty of action from both sides. I was getting a bit frustrated with the All Blacks in the lineout because I only saw them contest the French throw-in once in the whole game! What is the point of conceding the lineout to the opposition??
Referee Andre Watson wasn't too bad except for a terrible call that cost NZ a certain try. He blew the whistle for a forward pass that clearly wasn't, just as NZ was about to go over for a try. |
I can't imagine John Mitchell being terribly pleased with the AB performance. Apart from the first-half patch that saw Rokocoko's bonanza, they lacked fluency, their scrum was being upset by Les Grenouilles' pack - very much a second-string outfit - and their lineout effort was, as you say, puzzling. Les Grenouilles would have to be very happy with their effort after, apparently, sub-standard jobs against the Pumas. Obviously Les Grenouilles lifted for the game, their record against the ABs in recent times is very good, but I thought they rather embarrassed the ABs overall.
Oh, and the pre-match stuff only reinforced my view that the French anthem is a wondrous thing.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Paradox
To be honest i never even saw the match so I can't comment.
Besides, since when was he the 1st or LAST ref north or south to make an error?  Smacks to me of subjective viewing guys  |
You've stepped into a minefield, Paradox.  Some of our NH posters - well, one in particular, who lives not a million miles from Toulouse, and those name starts with a "T", ends with an "n", separated by the letters "a", "m", "e", "r", "l", and "i" - likes to lob the occasional hand grenade in the direction of SH refs. Some of the SH posters like to lob them back. Okay, that's enough munitions metaphors for one post.
I notice, though, that he hasn't yet blamed the SH ref for Les Grenouilles' loss last night. The ref didn't cost them the game, they cost themselves the game. They could have won.
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Anyway i didnt want to start a war...i was just giving this thread a Bokke slant to. Is that OK with you chaps? |
You are most welcome!  We've had some Bok reps before from time to time. I didn't see last night's match, so I don't know how you got to be 9 points down with 5 minutes to play. That, I'd've thought, would be a worry against the Pumas who are famous for not travelling well.
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Tamerlin
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Toulouse (South-western France)
Apr 2002
time: 06:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Caligastia
I agree. It was a frustrating game for me to watch - especially considering the French pack was second-string. Also the behaviour of Thorne was inexcusable. He deserved to be sent off. If I were Mitchell I would be "reaming him a new one" as they say here in the states. |
It was indeed a frustrating game, the performance of the French team was hopefully better than the last two week-ends and this is rather encouraging. You are right to talk about the "second string" nature of the pack as two of the AB tries came after the All Blacks skillfully exploited a gap between a maul or scrum and the defending line. This means the French team is certainly lacking some coordination between its forwards and its backs. One of the explanations would be that because of the large number of new players the whole team have not yet found the automatisms that would allow it to play at its top level. 
At least I hope so... 
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You've stepped into a minefield, Paradox. Some of our NH posters - well, one in particular, who lives not a million miles from Toulouse, and those name starts with a "T", ends with an "n", separated by the letters "a", "m", "e", "r", "l", and "i" - likes to lob the occasional hand grenade in the direction of SH refs. Some of the SH posters like to lob them back. Okay, that's enough munitions metaphors for one post. |
ARE YOU SUGGESTING I COULD BE THIS POSTER? 
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I notice, though, that he hasn't yet blamed the SH ref for Les Grenouilles' loss last night. The ref didn't cost them the game, they cost themselves the game. They could have won. |
That's right, they could have won the game if they had been more efficient. Mind you they stole something like 5 or 6 balls from the AB's line out and did not score a point after them. Fabien Galthié was really under its real value and this is worrying as he has not directed the game letting this task to Frédéric Michalack and then Merceron.
Finbar's paragraph:
The referee was one of the best I saw in the SH as he was equally bad for the two teams (though he imagined a forward without which the AB would have scored a try, this error only balanced the terrible decisions he had previously made). The referee was not unfair, he was just bad. Which is rather good for a SH referee.
Have I been good Finbar?
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