05-07-2003 02:31									#91
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Hmmm... Fort Hood, Texas; Fort Benning, Georgia; Fort Stewart, Georgia; Fort Campbell, Kentucky (mostly in Tennessee), Fort Bragg, North Carolina; Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. South.

Oh yeah?

Uh...Camp Pendleton....Vandenburg....uh...

Damn it.

Navstation San Diego.....Bremerton....Colorado Springs... NTC.....Pearl Harbor....Yokosuka...Rammstein...Or boys in South Korea...

Drake

You said "If the war was fought today..." Now you're talking a whole new ballgame.

Only Confederates called Northerners "yankees"... more twisting of Neo-Confedes are evidenced in your post.

(Scratch that, most people can call New England types Yankees.....and the word Doesn't exist in the south. It's Damnyankees.)

	05-07-2003 02:32									#92
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Besides, it's toooo much fun to rile the Yankee's little chicken-feathers so.

	05-07-2003 02:32									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Btw, You'd think that 150 years later, you'd get over this. Who are you to talk? The Jews still aren't over Massada.

What are you talking about? Noone here hates the Italians any more.

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What's all that historical homeland biz about then.

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quote: Only Confederates called Northerners "yankees"... more twisting of Neo-Confedes are evidenced in your post.

Believe me, I'm as far from a Neo-Confed as you can get.

	05-07-2003 02:34									#96
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Besides, it's toooo much fun to rile the Yankee's little chicken-feathers so.

Sometimes it's sad that there are so many neo-Confederates who have not been able to deal with a defeat in a war that happened 150 years ago.

At other times, it's just so funny in a pathetic way.

	05-07-2003 02:36									#97
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I want another Civil War just so we can get a crack at Iowa.

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I want another Civil War just so we can get a crack at Iowa.

There were a few battles in which Iowans DID fight in the real Civil War -- do you really want our bayonets in your face again?

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We ain't the ones who had problems dealin', hon. And you're the ones who get all flapped up that we ain't broken down and domesticated (nice way of saying *****-whipped ) to that "big Federal government will take care of y'all and tell y'all what to do" mold.

It's just too bad you Yankees are such an amorphous lot with no attachment to any real roots that you have to resort to an artificially created nationalism derived from a federation of sovereign states.

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun There were a few battles in which Iowans DID fight in the real Civil War -- do you really want our bayonets in your face again?

We'd have to move to Canada for that, boyo. Thats' where your bayonets were facing. All we got to see was ass and the heels of your shoes.

	05-07-2003 02:40									#101
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat We ain't the ones who had problems dealin', hon. And you're the ones who get all flapped up that we ain't broken down and domesticated (nice way of saying *****-whipped ) to that "big Federal government will take care of y'all and tell y'all what to do" mold. It's just too bad you Yankees are such an amorphous lot with no attachment to any real roots that you have to resort to an artificially created nationalism derived from a federation of sovereign states.

So glad you Southerners wanted to destroy a country that people such as George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, and so many others worked hard to establish.

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quote: do you really want our bayonets in your face again?

Iowans never put their bayonets in the face of Nebraskans, I can tell you that much. Your state would cease to exist if you ever decided to tangle with your totally butch western neighbors.

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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat We'd have to move to Canada for that, boyo. Thats' where your bayonets were facing. All we got to see was ass and the heels of your shoes.

what blatant lies

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun So glad you Southerners wanted to destroy a country that people such as George Washington (southerner), Alexander Hamilton (Scotsman who didn't believe the common rabble should have a say in government), Benjamin Franklin (diplomat who was regarded as rather cozy with Parliament), and so many others worked hard to establish.

Others like Jefferson, Jay, Madison, etc?

	05-07-2003 02:46									#105
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Others like Jefferson, Jay, Madison, etc?

Those 3 were dumbasses.

Well, not Madison.

	05-07-2003 02:49									#106
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Hey, Jefferson bought Nebraska. That proves the man was a genius and a visionary.

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Hey, Jefferson bought Nebraska. That proves the man was a genius and a visionary.

No...he bought New Orleans and got Nebreska thrown in for and extra $.50.

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quote: No...he bought New Orleans and got Nebreska thrown in for and extra $.50.

Don't tell me you actually believe that. Jefferson just pretended that New Orleans was all he wanted so that the French wouldn't realize the huge mistake they were making in giving up Nebraska.

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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat And if you city boy Yankees hadn't gotten lucky with Gen'l Jackson, he'd have driven your asses off Culp's and Cemetery Hills, and you wouldn't have stopped your yellow asses from running until you saw that "Welcome to Canada" sign. Let's hear it for the Yankee triathlon: March south, run north, swim the Potomac. You asked for it, boy: The 1st Regiment, Virginia Volunteers - the Old Dominion Guard:

My family has been southern a lot longer than yours has, but I wouldn't give two cents for that shameful affair they conducted from 1861 to 1865.

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On the contrary, Drake, we made a good deal. We made Jefferson pay twice as much for Nebraska than its real value

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Oh yeah? Uh...Camp Pendleton....Vandenburg....uh... Damn it. Navstation San Diego.....Bremerton....Colorado Springs... NTC.....Pearl Harbor....Yokosuka...Rammstein...Or boys in South Korea... Drake You said "If the war was fought today..." Now you're talking a whole new ballgame. Only Confederates called Northerners "yankees"... more twisting of Neo-Confedes are evidenced in your post. (Scratch that, most people can call New England types Yankees.....and the word Doesn't exist in the south. It's Damnyankees.)

I think that all the strategic weapons are in northerrn territory. That would make the war very short indeed.

	05-07-2003 03:20									#112
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quote: We made Jefferson pay twice as much for Nebraska than its real value

I'm going to work you over after Sloww gets done gutting you.

	05-07-2003 03:22									#113
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat We ain't the ones who had problems dealin', hon. And you're the ones who get all flapped up that we ain't broken down and domesticated (nice way of saying *****-whipped ) to that "big Federal government will take care of y'all and tell y'all what to do" mold. It's just too bad you Yankees are such an amorphous lot with no attachment to any real roots that you have to resort to an artificially created nationalism derived from a federation of sovereign states.

Funny. From my personal experience I can assure you that there is no shortage of southerners on the welfare rolls.

	05-07-2003 03:23									#114
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If the south tried to succeed again, they would not even have as many states as they had the first time, not more. They would get crushed faster; Given that minorities make up a bigger share of the military than of the pop, I can bet you Hispanics, Asians, and Blacks would not sign up to the neo-confed agenda: oh, and most nukes are at sea or in the plains, or out west. So bye bye whichever dead end towns joined the revolt (most big Southern cities, like Atlanta or Miami, Tampa, would not join up anyway).

GO UNION.

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quote: I think that all the strategic weapons are in northerrn territory. That would make the war very short indeed.

Again, why would Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota and all the other Great Plains states with all the strategic weapons side with the North? We have a lot more in common with the South.

If Nebraska goes over to the Rebs, the North would be in a world of hurt seeing as StratCom is here and all.

	05-07-2003 03:32									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove My family has been southern a lot longer than yours has, but I wouldn't give two cents for that shameful affair they conducted from 1861 to 1865.

There are Southerners who have moved on since the Civil War.

	05-07-2003 03:35									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: I think that all the strategic weapons are in northerrn territory. That would make the war very short indeed. Again, why would Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota and all the other Great Plains states with all the strategic weapons side with the North? We have a lot more in common with the South. If Nebraska goes over to the Rebs, the North would be in a world of hurt seeing as StratCom is here and all.

So all the people of the great plains pine all day for lost glories of the plantation age?

Don't make us take away your federal subsidies: Do you honestly think Mississippi and Alabama are going to pay your way?

	05-07-2003 03:35									#118
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What is this stupid distinction anyway? get over it.

	05-07-2003 03:38									#119
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quote: So all the people of the great plains pine all day for lost glories of the plantation age?

Where would you get a stupid idea like this? Just because the Great Plains is more culturally and politically close to the South in modern times doesn't mean that we have any sort of longing for a return of the Confederacy. I'm assuming that a modern Civil War would be fought for different reasons than the first, so I don't see how slavery or protection of a now non-existant plantation economy would play into it.

quote: Don't make us take away your federal subsidies

Please do. Federal subsidies are killing off small farmers.

	05-07-2003 03:47									#120
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Ah, but its the big farmers that would control politics at the state legislature.

And there is no modern reason for a new succecion movement, now that everyone is so proud to be an American! Who would be treasenous enought to leave it? certainly not the uberpatriotic peoples of the South and Plains.