16-07-2003 18:16									#31
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I must say, I like Math's proposal. After all, we do have a 1x1 ladder going anyway.

And since it seems people are grabbing partners before some sort of ranking of players and even teams are concocted, I accept your offer of partnership Math

But I would prefer a system for pairing partners. Arranged marriages are the best

	16-07-2003 18:20									#32
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik And since it seems people are grabbing partners before some sort of ranking of players and even teams are concocted, I accept your offer of partnership Math

	17-07-2003 09:23									#34
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Er... Frozzy, I want to play too!!!

	17-07-2003 09:41									#35
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Sorry David

	17-07-2003 09:45									#36
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Eh? And why can't david join in? Weren't you part of the original david? The original players need to be messaged I would think just to be offered spots.

And RC, I would much prefer there be some kind of marriage thing going, but I have no idea how we could do that.

	17-07-2003 11:09									#37
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Ok, Ill' want to join too!!!!!!

	17-07-2003 12:41									#38
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash And RC, I would much prefer there be some kind of marriage thing going, but I have no idea how we could do that.

do you mean i actually have to promise RC to forever love him and be true to him ?

	17-07-2003 12:54									#39
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Eh? And why can't david join in? Weren't you part of the original david? The original players need to be messaged I would think just to be offered spots.

He can... my post was apologising for forgetting him.

	17-07-2003 12:55									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician do you mean i actually have to promise RC to forever love him and be true to him ?

That would be ideal, but if it's too much, at least promise to put the toilet seat down...

	17-07-2003 12:56									#41
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quote: Originally posted by david42one That would be ideal, but if it's too much, at least promise to put the toilet seat down...

ah, rather eternal love then.

	17-07-2003 12:58									#42
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I still want there to be a draw pairing players randomly. Like I did last time, I just wrote out the names, and picked them out of a hat (actually it was a bowl... but never mind).

Should we do this instead?

	17-07-2003 13:00									#43
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whats the sense of the league-like ranking table then ?

	17-07-2003 13:23									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy I still want there to be a draw pairing players randomly. Like I did last time, I just wrote out the names, and picked them out of a hat (actually it was a bowl... but never mind). Should we do this instead?

Well, as I said I would rather stay with my partner from last season. However, if the vote is to mix it up, I think we should at least try to evaluate a players skill relative to everyone else, so that we don't end up with stacked teams.

	17-07-2003 13:27									#45
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sorry, frozzy. misunderstood your last post.
random pairings would be possible but i dont like it too much.

	17-07-2003 16:04									#46
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quote: Originally posted by david42one That would be ideal, but if it's too much, at least promise to put the toilet seat down...

Actually, I would prefer to see the toilet seat left up.

The more players the merrier! If necessary we could split the league into 2 (or more!), with the following season's 2 leagues taken from the top 2 halves, and the bottom 2 halves...

But perhaps I'm getting a little ahead of things

	17-07-2003 17:19									#47
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like premier and secondary league.
i guess our community isnt yet large enough for that.

but at least for single player games, i posted here (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...992#post2183992)
on the topic of implementing a real ranking system instead of just a challenge ladder.

maybe, if that works out, something similar could be applied to team games..

	17-07-2003 17:36									#48
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It's just that with more and more players joining, if we have every team playing every other team, although in theory it wouldn't take any longer, the reality is that it would.

I guess one way around that is that as various players lose interest, we could have forced recombinations as we go. Eg, a player each from team A and B loses interest, haven't played a turn for say 10 days, the remaining players from A & B have to combine to form team J (at this rate), which takes on the games of A & B (except the A vs B game of course, which is removed from the League), and if they end up playing more games their total points are divided by the ratio of the number of games they played vs the number of games everyone else played....

Or some such

	17-07-2003 17:40									#49
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik ... and if they end up playing more games their total points are divided by the ratio of the number of games they played vs the number of games everyone else played.... Or some such

better leave the math to the experts.

	17-07-2003 17:48									#50
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Well, let's say there are 7 teams. If we went with my suggestion to have only a single 1 vs. 1 game going at a time with each team, that would mean each player would have only 3 1 vs. 1 games going at once, and 6 2 vs. 2 games, which as we all know only show up in your inbox twice a week, at best. Sounds like a decent pace to me.

	17-07-2003 17:51									#51
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and the second 1 on 1 game, as rickety suggested, could start once the first is finished.
did i mention i like the revenge aspect these games would get this way ?

	17-07-2003 18:06									#52
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Yes, I think you did mention that. I still agree with you.

So it looks like the structure of the new superleague is beginning to emerge. I think the scoring system we used last season worked pretty well, can anyone think of something that might need tweaking?

	18-07-2003 07:52									#53
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We could always use an NFL/MLB style league (e.g. American and National leagues, with this winners of each conference playing in the main challenge).

Should we do this this season, then next season have two divisions?

	18-07-2003 09:37									#54
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room for more? I'd like to get in if your not full

	18-07-2003 09:39									#55
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No such thing as full around here!

	18-07-2003 10:26									#56
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Updated list of possible entrants (p for possible [i.e. not posted in this thread]).

Hatschy(p)
david42one
checkMate
ricketyclik
mathemagician
Pave
pacman
Protoss72000
yoda
Dr. Doom (p)
FlameFlash
Nimrod
Frozzy
gumpold

Assuming I haven't unintentionally left anyone out, that's 14 (7 teams).

What I propose is this:

Two conferences:
3 teams in one, 4 teams in the other. Teams to be randomly drawn (to keep it fair). Same point scroing as last time, using Mathemagician's table. The winners of each conference play in a 2x2 match for the final, winner takes all.

Anyone in agreement?

	18-07-2003 13:03									#57
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doesnt matter to me

	18-07-2003 14:51									#58
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did you mean team pairings randomly drawn, frozzy, or team distribution over the leagues ?
i was looking forward to playing with rickety.

actually i'd like it more to have one league for all teams, but that might be too many games for some...

we could stick to only 2v2 games though..

	18-07-2003 14:59									#59
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Well, in that case, I say 1 league, 2x2 games only, same points as last time.

I still would prefer random pairings, but then it's a democracy

	18-07-2003 15:05									#60
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on the other hand 1v1 games would make it more interesting too, with 2v2 games for 2 match points and 1v1 games with 1 match point for the winner...

tough decision, even for a mathocracy ..er.. did you say democracy ? sorry

i'd say we wait for some others to 'vote'.