22-07-2003 09:51									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Corporate corruption in Supply side? Yes.. and that is why there must be some law enforcement. In the Economist as of late, Singapore rated as the most economically free country in the world. They yet have the lowest level of corruption. The system is based on an pro-corporation tax code.

That doesn't work in the US because of campaign contributions, politicians won't do somthing that dries up thier $$$. If it worked in the US Ken Lay would be behind bars and the victims of Enron reimbursed from LAY'S POCKET.

Oh, you can beat me in economics but I can slaughter you in Biology.

	22-07-2003 09:53									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Odin That doesn't work in the US because of campaign contributions, politicians won't do somthing that dries up thier $$$. If it worked in the US Ken Lay would be behind bars and the victims of Enron reimbursed from LAY'S POCKET. Oh, you can beat me in economics but I can slaughter you in Biology.

The Singaporean state has been in the pockets of corporations many times.

I suck at science... give me a chem or bio lab or something, and you will have fire trucks showing at the scene.

	22-07-2003 09:55									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I suck at science... give me a chem or bio lab or something, and you will have fire trucks showing at the scene.

Or you might unleash a plauge while studying Mycobacterium turberculosis.

	22-07-2003 09:58									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Odin Or you might unleash a plauge while studying Mycobacterium turberculosis.

I'll probably cause an explosion and end up being in the hospital for two weeks.

No seriously, I was in Physics in 12th grade. I got a B... gah... just by luck because I studied for the final. Luckily I didn't take the IB course... the rest of my classes were in the B+/A range.

	22-07-2003 10:15									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Odin THAT IS A LIE!!! At least my experience shows the Libertarian idea "hard work equals success is CRAP!

that is so not a libertarian ideal. sounds more socialist. guarenteed success doesn't exist in libertarianism. maybe ur parents were idiots. or if u prefer, unlucky.

	22-07-2003 10:19									#96
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quote: Originally posted by yavoon that is so not a libertarian ideal. sounds more socialist. guarenteed success doesn't exist in libertarianism. maybe ur parents were idiots. or if u prefer, unlucky.

My dad's brother is unlucky... his life has been tough.. he has been quite poor all his life. Never held a job for more than six months in the past. Finally a few years ago he got his act in order and got a job in geology or something like that, decent paying.

	22-07-2003 11:14									#97
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I'm putting 10 for The Gipper.

	22-07-2003 11:20									#98
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Two words: Iran-Contra.

But Carter was probably still worse.

	22-07-2003 12:37									#99
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quote: Was Ronald Reagon that bad of a president?

Yes. Worst in the history of United States. I rated him two, but probably should've gived 3 instead, since there are worse leaders around...

However, my knowledge is biased towards foreign politics.

quote: But Carter was probably still worse.

He came close.

	22-07-2003 14:42									#100
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I was pro-Reagan at the time, but you can't blame me. I was only a teen and it was the Cold War. USSR was only 350 km from my house.

	22-07-2003 15:33									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I spoke ambigiously. When I talked about that private school it was in Argentina. We are all intelligent in our own fields, and I should of never have discriminated you for your age. You seem like a bright person. I have been thinking, can you accept the fact that I have strengths? I admit one thing here right now. I am terrible at math and science. The only math I do know is that of micro-economics but even the formulas I knew have faded from my memory. I am more acute with politics and international relations. Those are my areas of strength. That is all.

Sure, ok.

	22-07-2003 16:26									#102
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^5 at this thread....





I'll give him a 4. all 4 of them for destroying the soviet union. He accomplished his goal. was that a good thing? that's a different question.

	22-07-2003 16:31									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed the soviet union was suffering from an inability to manufacture enough consumer goods; and when glasnost and perestroika came along, it touched off nationalism in the baltic states, which spread like wildfire through the rest of the ussr, leading to its ultimate dissolution.

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	22-07-2003 16:33									#104
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	23-07-2003 05:39									#105
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Don't get me started on what President Reagan refused to do during the emergence of the AIDS crisis . . . . . .

	23-07-2003 05:42									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I am terrible at math and science. The only math I do know is that of micro-economics but even the formulas I knew have faded from my memory. I am more acute with politics and international relations. Those are my areas of strength. That is all.

You're not really that bright there either, Fezzie...

	23-07-2003 05:56									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Odin Fez, The Cato Institute is a hell-hole of crap (=Supply side) economists, you are full of it Fez. In my school's Economics textbook it says that the "Misery Index" (I can't remember it's technical name) was at an all-time high under Reagan. So, one again, You have no evidence, YOU HAVE NOTHING!!! It was definatly Reagan's fault with S&L. he gave in to the comercial bank lobby who were complaining to him, and of course he allways sided with Big Business and made S&Ls have to have higher interst rates on loans, screwing the poor people.

You know, I tough time taking something called a "Misery Index" seroiusly. Is there an "Overjoyed" index to go along with it?

	23-07-2003 06:29									#108
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quote: Don't get me started on what President Reagan refused to do during the emergence of the AIDS crisis . . . . . .

Oh god. You're blaming AIDS on Reagan now?

	23-07-2003 06:43									#109
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Don't get me started on what President Reagan refused to do during the emergence of the AIDS crisis . . . . . .

In all fairness, it was the homosexual's unsafe sex practices that caused most (not all....sniff...Asimov) of early AIDS cases in the US.

	23-07-2003 06:45									#110
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Which is of course Reagan's fault in Mr Fun's mind.

	23-07-2003 06:49									#111
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As someone who never cared for his policies, I still gave him a 6.

He was a very successful president vis a vi PR, and created a great image around himself. No, he is not responsbile for bringing down the soviet union, but he did act well when it came to handling Gorbachev, who si far more responsible for the end of the USSR.

He had very little vision of interna politics: he cut taxes, but then had to raise them again, and he never did much to get any significant cuts in services made, even with all his popularity.

I think people like the remmeber the glow of mid-80's Reagan, instead of the second term, speically Iran-Contra, which I do think he had somehting to do with.

	23-07-2003 07:30									#112
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Which is of course Reagan's fault in Mr Fun's mind.

Reagan did not bring about the AIDS crisis -- it was already beginning before his term.

Don't you think he was neglectful when he became in a position to do something about the crisis?

And I take it you never read the book, "And the Band Played On?"

	23-07-2003 07:31									#113
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Also -- there were gay political leaders who are just as guilty.

The pro-bathouse leaders played politics and greed with people's lives during the early part of the crisis.

	23-07-2003 07:39									#114
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What should he have done?

	23-07-2003 07:43									#115
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker What should he have done?

He should have authorized more research funds sooner, rather than later. Various medical research facilities were hamstringed under tighther, stringent budgeting due to government cutbacks. By the time hundreds of Americans have died, he should have taken a serious interest in this emerging epidemic.

Why did he feel there was no compelling reason to head-off a new disease?

	23-07-2003 07:45									#116
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Rent the movie And The Band Played On

	23-07-2003 07:56									#117
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Why did he feel there was no compelling reason to head-off a new disease?

He was one of the idiots who thought AIDS was a gay's disease, I bet he wanted the gays to die because he was such a religious wacko.

	23-07-2003 08:12									#118
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Come on... I think a lot of people underestimated the danger - the vast majority did. "Hundreds of Americans had died." Well, thousands of Americans die from other things. He was neither more nor less shortsighted than anyone else.

	23-07-2003 08:33									#119
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Terrible President. Screwed the economy, accelerated the exodus of industry from America, killed the working class, signed a blind amnesty, automatically forgiving millions of potentially dangerous illegal immigrants...

	23-07-2003 08:52									#120
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For those who believe in America, Ronald Reagan was a great president. Fot those who view America as the great evil, Ronald Reagan was a bad president because he restored American power and prestige.

For those who remember the seventies, America was shaken to its foundation by the humiliation of Vietnam, by the betrayal and political corruption of a president, by the stupidity of his successor, and by a radical leftist anti-American president who blamed the American people for the failures of his presidency.

America's honor, power and prestige were in severe decline. Its economy was a shambles due to wage price controls begun under Richard Nixon and continued with a vengeance with respect to oil and gas prices by an excessively anti-American Jimmy Carter. Communism was advancing across the globe and the Soviets were in Afghanistan. The Ayatollah Khomeini held our hostages. A former ally had become an enemy.

Into this stepped Ronald Reagan who changed everything. He fixed the economy by ending price controls and by reducing taxes. He invested in the military and stood up to the Soviet Union as no prior president had. By the end of his presidency, the USSR was in total collapse and the Berlin Wall was about to fall. Ronald Reagan single-handedly rescued the United States from the chaos of the seventies and rescued the world from Communism.

History will view Ronald Reagan as at least a critical president in the history United States and probably one of its greatest presidents due to his accomplishments.