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| Teach N.Korea a Lesson it won't soon forget. |
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5.48% |
| Takeover the world. |
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20 |
27.40% |
| Create intersteller Empire |
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31.51% |
| give Ground force tech to America, let it conquer |
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5.48% |
| Share the Technology freely with the rest of humanity. |
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6.85% |
| 'Splode Paris |
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12.33% |
| All fall before the Banana Empire |
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10.96% |
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I can't believe I read through this thread of geekdom
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:29
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Originally posted by GePap
In Star Wars, of the bat we are in a "galaxy long ago and far away".. what is Luke Skywalker? He can;t be human, since he is anot a decendent of an earth based species, so what is the name of the humanoid race to which Luke and Han and Leia and so forth are from? |
What does it matter what they're called in their galaxy? The fact that they look like us isn't entirely outrageous. Many scientists have theorized that should the same conditions as Earth be present on other worlds, then it isn't inconceivable that, somewhere in the hundreds of billions of galaxy, there is a race just like us, or at least similar enough to us visually.
Look at all the species in ST and how similar to humans they are, or B5 for that matter. That's the limitations of producing shows and movies that require human actors, duh.
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Shielded ISDs can park themselves in the core of a star and take no damage. |
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A declaration that by itself shows the crazyness of Star Wars. And my galaxy eating dragons (named Zot and Jeokoo-Bob) will make a quick meal of them anyhow! Ha!, worthless little ISD's! |
Do those dragons have any relation to Q or the Founders?
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:29
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
What does it matter what they're called in their galaxy? The fact that they look like us isn't entirely outrageous. Many scientists have theorized that should the same conditions as Earth be present on other worlds, then it isn't inconceivable that, somewhere in the hundreds of billions of galaxy, there is a race just like us, or at least similar enough to us visually.
Look at all the species in ST and how similar to humans they are, or B5 for that matter. That's the limitations of producing shows and movies that require human actors, duh. |
Then why not just posit this is Milky way millions of years ahead? And the posibility that a race might be humanoid is high enough, but mammals with hair in all the right places? Extremely far fetched. Besides, planet of the Apes used human actors: it called makeup.
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Do those dragons have any relation to Q or the Founders? |
No. You assume I care for those two ideas from Star Trek, and I don;t. They were poor ideas and badly handled by the writers as well. But those mistakjes still leave ST as far more beholden to some rationality than SW. I am a B5 fan, and thankfully B5 is far more "sane" about what it specualtes about in its little universe.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:29
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
This is slightly off topic but why does a Star Wars fan site devote so much of its bandwidth to Star Trek? |
The site is devoted to SW vs. ST.
Ya see, STers started this. They like to poo-poo SW because it's more popular than their precious ST, so they pulled out the whole ST is more scientific thing and claimed ST ships would beat SW ships, etc. Now it's bitten them on the butt, because SWers have shown that ST is just as guilty in terms of using scientifically impossible things.
Gepap: David Wong isn't just a SW Geek--he's a physicist. You deride him as a geek, but you're obviously just a B5 Geek. So what? That's kinda why we're here. I'm kinda disappointed in you, though. For someone who typically displays pretty rational behavior, you seem to be irrationally biased against SW here.
I note you didn't argue with the content of those pages, but just derided the author as an SW Geek, as if that proves anything. Do you know him? No. Do you have any reason to dismiss his arguments except out of your own bias? Doubtful.
I'd suggest you lay off arguing with Fez, I think he's rubbing off on you.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:29
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 Thanks for the site Boris, for it only makes what I believe even stronger:
Good for Wong if he is a physicist, and he does a fine job is pointing out things being unrealistic in Trek... but then where does one turn to SW?
The main gripe being possited by the writer of that site is that much of the figures for power use, generation, and rating for weapons are absurdly high. And I have no probem with that: you see, then Lonestar claims that each ISD which is as big as any of the common ships of the line in B5 has hundreads of guns with power ratings even more absurdly high than that which people quote for B5. So if the data given for B5 (which is pulled out of thin air) is absurd, data for SW is even less believable. The guy on the site makes a big deal about how a ship the size of a Mimbari cruiser (which is almost as big as a ISD) ould most certrainly be destroyed by a 2 Megaton mine, yet Lonestar tells me each turbolaser puts out 144 Gigatons, and that a ISD can take many of them?
So again, thinanks for the site, for if the numbers posited for B5 are astronomically high and absurd, then SW is too far gone to argue for, which is my point.
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