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Comprehensive Feature List in Conquests Put an end to popups!

Well, since much information is scattered here and there, I thought it was good to compile it all in one place. This is a comprehensive review of all new features in C3C that we know of.

I have necessarily forgotten some bit of info. Please tell me of any info that you know of and doesn't figure here (please also link to a source, I wouldn't like to repeat rumours)

Here it goes:

code:
Civilization III: Conquests
Publisher: AtariDeveloper:
Firaxis / Breakaway Games
Announced release:
4 November 2003 (US)


NEW CIVILIZATIONS
Civilization Name Civ Traits Unique Unit Leader Name Starting Tech
Hittites Expansionist, Commercial Three Man Chariot Mursilis Pottery, Alphabet
Sumerians Scientific, Agricultural Enkidu Warrior Gilgamesh Bronze Working, Pottery
Incas Expansionist, Agricultural Chasqui Scout Pachacuti Pottery, Masonry
Mayans Agricultural, Industrious Javelineer Smoke Jaguar Masonry, Pottery
Byzantines Seafaring, Scientific Dromon Empress Theodora Bronze Working, Alphabet
Dutch Seafaring, Agricultural Swiss Mercenary William of Orange Pottery, Alphabet
Portuguese Expansionist, Seafaring Carrack Prince Henry Pottery, Alphabet


NEW UNITS
Name Att.Def.Move Requirements Cost Special abilities
Enkidu Warrior 1.2.1 none 10 Specific to Sumerians
Chasqui Scout 1.1.2 none 20 Enslave (scenario specific)
Ignores move costs of hills and mountains
Specific to Incas
Three Man Chariot 2.2.2 The Wheel
Horses
30 Wheeled
Specific to Hittites
Javelineer 2.2.1 Warrior Code 30 Enslave (NOT scenario specific)
Specific to Mayans
Swiss Mercenary 1.4.1 Feudalism
Iron
30 Specific to Dutch
Trebuchet ? ? ? ?
Dromon 2.1.3 Map Making 30 Boat
Lethal Sea Bombardment
Specific to Byzantines
Daimyo Variable ? ? Scenario-only
Gets stronger with new techs
Wooden Carrier ? ? ? Boat
Maybe scenario-only
Curragh ? Alphabet ? Boat
Carrack 2.2.4 Astronomy 40 Boat
Does not sink in ocean tiles
Specific to Portuguese
Scientific Great Leader ? ? ? Has a chance of appearing when you are the first to discover a tech
Crusader 4.3.1 Chivalry
Iron
40 Maybe scenario only
Inquisitor 4.1.1 Religious Persecution 30 Treats all terrain as road
Detects Invisible
Scenario only
Assassin 6.1.1 Assassination 60 Stealth Attack
Invidible
Detects Invisible
Scenario Only
Spy 2.2.1 Intelligence Operations 20 Detects Invisible
Treats all terrain as roads
Scenario only
Longboat ? ? ? Boat
Probably specific to Vikings
Scenario only


NEW BUILDINGS IN THE CORE GAME
Name Requirements Cost Maintenance Culture Effects
The Statue of Zeus Mathematics
Ivory
200 0 gold 4 a turn Produces Ancient Cavalry (3.2.2) every 5 turns
Can become a Tourist Attraction
Golden Age for Religious / Militaristic
Obsolete with Metallurgy
The Temple of Artemis ? ? 0 gold ? Puts a Temple on every city in the same continent
Can trigger a Golden Age for Religious Civs
Obsolete with Education
The Mausoleum of Mausollos ? ? 0 gold ? Makes three unhappy citizens content
May trigger a golden age for Seafaring or Scientific Civs
The Knights Templar ? ? ? ? Builds Crusaders (5.3.1) every five turns



SCENARIOS

Mesopotamia
From 4000 BC on.
Confirmed Civilizations: Babylonians, Sumerians, Hittites, Egypt, Persia, Greece, Phoenicians*
The scenario is a race for the 7 wonders of the ancient world. It stops when they are all built.
Special abilities: None known yet.

Rise of Rome

Fall of Rome
Starts in 324 AD
Confirmed Civs: Rome, Byzantines, Celts, Sassanids (Persians), Huns*, Franks*, Anglo-Saxons*, Vandals*, Visigoths*, Ostrogoths*
Rome is divided between the East and the West empire. Barbarian Civilizations emerge and attempt to gang up on them. Rome will win a Score Victory at about the 100 turn if it doesn't fall first.
Features:
- Mass elimination: a Civilization is eliminated if it loses 8 cities.
- Specific enslave: Units with the enslave ability may 'capture' fighting units instead of workers.


Middle Ages
Features:
Starts in 843 A.D, Ends in 1453 A.D
- Mass regicide: a Civ has lost when its two kings are killed.
- Relics: Each christian Civ starts with a relic, that can be captured. If it manages to get it to Jerusalemit gets 10,000 victory points
- Stealth Attack. The Muslim assassins can attack the unit they wish in a stack.

Mesoamerica
Confirmed Civilizations: Aztecs, Mayas, Incas, Moche*, Olmecs*, Toltecs*
This scenario mostly emphasizes culture.
Special abilities:
- Enslave: have a chance acquiring a worker after defeating an enemy unit)
- Sacrifice: sacrifice a worker in your cities for an immediate boost of 20 culture. This creates unhappiness in said city

Age of Discovery
Starts in 1490
Confirmed Civs: Portuguese, Dutch, French, Spanish, English, Incas, Mayans, Aztecs, Iroquois
This scenario emphasizes on the colonization of the new world, to acquire its resources and Wealth, if you play as a European power. The scenario emphasizes on keeping the Europeans at bay for as long as possible, in order to get a culture victory, if you're an American.
Features:
- The Portuguese start the scenario with a Golden Age
- The American Civs need fewer culture points per city to get a culture victory
- European cities that have a luxury in their radius can build a specific building that creates a "treasure" every 5 or 10 turns. Victory points ensue if this treasure is brought to Europe.

Sengoku: Sword of the Shogun
1467 - 1603 (540 turns !)
Confirmed Civilizations: 18 Japanese Clans*
This scenario emphasizes on Conquest, and is highly aggressive
Special abilities:
- Upgrade: The Daimyo unit upgrades and strengthens itself when you discover new techs (10 upgrades total)
- Stealth Attack: The Ninja Unit can strike one unit of his choice in a stack.

Napoleonic Europe

War in the Pacific
Confirmed Civilizations: Japan, America, China, Netherlands, England
This scenario retraces the epic battles of the Pacific between Japanese and US forces, with the presence of lesser actors as well
Special abilities:
- Japanese First Strike: Japan is the only Civ to move in the first turn
- Locked alliances: Alliances can not be renegociated. It is Japan vs. the rest of the world.
- Kamikaze: Sacrifice a poplation point to bombard a target 4 squares away.
- Ships and Planes take double damage in cites
- Most Aircraft has now lethal bombardment agains ships.

* Civilizations marked with * only exist in this scenario and are not full fledged Civilization for regular games.


NEW GOVERNMENTS

Feudalism
Fascism
Imperialism. Scenario specific
Tribal Council Scenario specific
Oligarchy Scenario specific
Protestant Monarchy Scenario specific (Age of Discovery)


OTHER NEW FEATURES

New Civilization Traits:
- Agricultural gives bonuses to food production.
- Seafaring gives bonuses to Sea travel.

The traits of all existing Civs will be reassessed. The English will be Seafaring / Commercial.


Two New difficulty levels.
- Demigod is intermediary between Emperor and Deity.
- Sid is more difficult than Deity.

Random World sizes

Setting the AI agression level when starting a game. The AI agresseion level is separate from difficulty.

Volcanoes Appear randomly and spout pollution in one direction

Marshes are a new terrain type

Craters can happen when you bombard a tile. They destroy resources definitely.

Two new City Specialists:
- Civil Engineer produces shields
- Police Forces reduces corruption

Tweaked Diplomacy
- Communication trading now comes with Printing Press
- Map trading now comes with Navigation

All of the content of PtW will be included in Conquests

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Great job

Whwere did the "leaders through the ages" thread go BTW?

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Here.

I thought about bumping it, but I understood that the two not-yet-included leaderheads are still nameless. We still don't know who'll be the Mayan leader, and who'll be the Incan Leader

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What about the new government types? There are, at least, Fascism, Imperalism, Tribal Council and Feudalism.http://www.civ3.com/conq_features.cfmAnd don´t forget such an important new feature as the volcanoes!

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There are 2 more confirmed Scenarios. The first is the “Age of Sail.”

“the Age of Sail, in which you'll play either as an explorer from an Old World country intent on conquering the New World, or as an indigenous nation who must repel the European invaders. The conquests feature a huge variety of new technological advances and bonuses that are unique to each one, such as sacrificial altars that benefit the Native Americans in the Age of Sail.”

Here’s the link.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy...ew_6073788.html

The second is a Roman Era scenario. There is no writing about it, but you can clearly see it in the screenshots.

http://www.gamespy.com/previews/aug...reenshots.shtml

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Spiffor, Well Done!! You should shamelessly plug this in other threads!

Seriously, This is good work. Thanks a lot!

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PLATO... thanks for the PM asking to have this thread topped. I agree with you on that.

However, in the future, when you are asking about or want something done to a thread... Please provide a link to make it easier

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Please provide a link to make it easier

It would almost be worth your time to make a Ming graphic with that phrase.

Almost.

Does this thead cover the stuff in the MZO thread too? I wasn't sure if you and PanzerXXXII were coordinating efforts...........

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Does this thead cover the stuff in the MZO thread too? I wasn't sure if you and PanzerXXXII were coordinating efforts...........

Actually, absolutely not. I got the idea after reading LouLong's thread at CivFanatics (this is not a copy of his thread), but I wasn't aware there was such a thing at MZO too.

I'll see about it (and probably will contact PanzerXXXII) tomorrow. Now it is really time for bed )

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The new small boat is a curragh, not a corragh. The Gamespot review had a spelling error there.

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Random world size is already in civ 3

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Thanks everyone for the heads up. I've upgraded the first post, and I have begun working on a table with all the new improvements.

I remember having seen an article featuring many Sengoku buildings. Does anybody know the link to it ? Thanks

And btw Kaos, did you see that in the new article, Communication Trading and Map Trading has been finally pushed back ? That's great ! I play with these rules for ages, and it really makes the ancient and early medieval eras more interesting

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Random World sizes should be changed to "visible random world sizes"

Try clicking right below "huge" and you'll see what i mean

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quote:
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Communication Trading and Map Trading has been finally pushed back ?


Sweet, this will make the world exploration, more like it was in Civ2. And more challenging.

Also, check out the 'GS' impressions. It looks like 4 new City Improvements, the only one I can recognize is the old-style Windmill.

Then there is the cool looking priest/ monk unit, reading from the book. Hmm.....is this guy, just another soldier? I don't think so, there must be some new ability for this guy. Of course, this is all speculation.

But I'm still waiting for UNIT TRADING!!!

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Originally posted by Kaos XIII
Then there is the cool looking priest/ monk unit, reading from the book. Hmm.....is this guy, just another soldier? I don't think so, there must be some new ability for this guy. Of course, this is all speculation.

I'm pretty sure he his the scientific leader. He is the guy I linked in that entry.

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He isn't the Scientific Great Leader... he is from one of the Conquests you don't have listed here yet

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quote:
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He isn't the Scientific Great Leader... he is from one of the Conquests you don't have listed here yet

Oh OK, Link removed

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Now, when they say it will "come complete with all the content" of PTW, do they really mean everything? IE. if I don't have PTW, I won't need to even bother buying it, cause Conquests will give it all to me.

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And i´m still waiting for an improved City View!

I´m afraid that monk copies the function from the Age of Empires, where it served for taking units for your cause. I think about this because the new Slavement ability might fit in the monk, making it look too much like the monk in Age of Empires.

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A monk with "unit conversion" ability? I think that would be a bigger leap than CIV should make.

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Great thread!!

Include new Tech: "Military Training".

Include "Oligarchy" government type.

Source: http://www.gamespy.com/asp/image.as...questspc/01.jpg

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Great thread!!

Include new Tech: "Military Training".

Include "Oligarchy" government type.

Source: http://www.gamespy.com/asp/image.as...questspc/01.jpg


From the jump-map in the lower left of that screen, I'm guessing this is a scenerio pic. Probably the Roman one, or maybe Cradle of Civ. Which means that the tech and gov. type you noticed are likely to be scenerio mods. Still worth noting, but we do want to be sure they are noted in the proper location.

A ? on that screen. Its hard to make out with FoW, but what's the greyish silver blob on the hill left one and down two from the town of Croton? Is that iron, or something else?

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Great job!!

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From the jump-map in the lower left of that screen, I'm guessing this is a scenerio pic. Probably the Roman one, or maybe Cradle of Civ. Which means that the tech and gov. type you noticed are likely to be scenerio mods. Still worth noting, but we do want to be sure they are noted in the proper location.

A ? on that screen. Its hard to make out with FoW, but what's the greyish silver blob on the hill left one and down two from the town of Croton? Is that iron, or something else?


My guess would be the Roman Scenario. The map appears to conform fairly well with the boarders and regions surronding the Roman Empire.

I think you may be right about the greyish silver blob, but it looks as if it may also be a small ruin.

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hi ,

thanks a lot Spiffor

lets hope you shall be able to fill in those blanks really soon , ....

have a nice day

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The pikeman thing looks like a portuguese UU...

diplomacy changes will slow down development/exploration a lot.

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Very nice !

I prefer your look a lot !
Maybe I will try to do something along those lines at civfanatics but I am not sure it is posible.
Good I checked here before copying my thread here as well

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The monk unit is very interesting. I hope he isn't just the Scientific leader. A unit like this with new abilities that we have never seen before would be sweet. Oh, and I just hope that all his new abilities and any other new abilities they create will be added to the editor.

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The pikeman thing looks like a portuguese UU...

diplomacy changes will slow down development/exploration a lot.


I'm willing to bet its Dutch

 
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