27-08-2003 22:22									#1
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Soo, I've joined the ranks of depressed teenagers on SSRIs. My doctor has given me a bunch of sample pills of this stuff called Lexapro, which he described as a third generation Prozac. Apparently this is supposed to be good, new stuff.

Now, I've done my own research on this drug, simply because I wasn't gonna put something in my body if I didn't know exactly what it was going to do to me, but I want to know more.

Are there any Apolytoners on Lexapro? If so, can you tell me how you've fared on it, what kind of side effects it's given you, whether or not you've noticed any beneficial effects?

Thanks in advance.

	27-08-2003 22:24									#2
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Don't know of this one so it must be a new one. I use prozac, works fine for me with no side effects...

	27-08-2003 22:37									#3
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thought this might be about another (better) variety of pills

don't take anything like that myself of course. i'm always quite surprised at the number of people who have to on this forum, and elsewhere. there was a very interesting article in the times a few months back about how doctors will dolling out prozac and the like to every tom, dick and harry, when there were often better ways to deal with their problems.

	27-08-2003 22:38									#4
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I used to be on Zoloft for years, until the side effects outweighed the benefits of comfortable synthetic numbness.

These days I'm usually pissed-off and moody instead of chemically indifferent, but I find that that is a much more natural state of being for me, and it's really helped my writing.

Now all I gotta do is find a brilliant-yet-predictably-stable-and-independently-wealthy muse to move in with, have a rocky and tumultuous relationship, develop a SERIOUS drinking problem, get kicked out, crawl back, get kicked out again, crawl into the bottle, crawl out of the bottle, pen The Great American Novel, and finally become rich and famous based on my own merits and not those of my wealthy benefactor.

If only my name was Chuck Palahnuik - that would solve all my problems and I'd have achieved everything I ever set out to do by the time I'm 30 years old.

THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM DRUGS, KIDS.

Just say no!
Stay in school!
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	27-08-2003 22:40									#5
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Fortunately I know I'm depressed. I've observed my lack of motivation, my disinterest in doing things beneficial to myself, my lack of desire to even do the things I'm supposed to love (reading and writing). I do realize that these pills are a good idea for me, even if I absolutely hate the idea of sticking pills in me and having them **** around with my system.

	27-08-2003 22:45									#6
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It's just an artificial equaliser to cope in an artificial world...

	27-08-2003 22:47									#7
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Pull yourselves out of it.

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On Celexa right now, and it's great.

The only sideeffect it has is it drastically cuts down your alcohol tolerance. Since the only time I drink is when I wanna get smashed, it's win-win for me and saves me money!

	27-08-2003 23:01									#10
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quote: Now all I gotta do is find a brilliant-yet-predictably-stable-and-independently-wealthy muse to move in with, have a rocky and tumultuous relationship, develop a SERIOUS drinking problem, get kicked out, crawl back, get kicked out again, crawl into the bottle, crawl out of the bottle, pen The Great American Novel, and finally become rich and famous based on my own merits and not those of my wealthy benefactor.

Well. You seem to have everything planned out

I have always stayed away from pills... I find my happiness in a bottle

	27-08-2003 23:03									#11
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anyone seen Fight Club? cool movie.

	27-08-2003 23:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion anyone seen Fight Club? cool movie.

Congratulations! You win the Understatement of the Year Award!

Bod's: It's hard to pull yourself out of a chemical imbalance. People don't get that depression isn't just being sad; it means your brain isn't working correctly. That said, I am taking measures on my own to reduce the depression. Namely, I've started to practice meditation.

Asher: I don't drink poison, so I'm fine. The doctor did tell me, however, that this stuff can have unwanted sexual side effects. Poo.

	27-08-2003 23:18									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Pull yourselves out of it.

Shut up.

	27-08-2003 23:19									#14
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Believe me, the unwanted sexual side effects aren't that unwanted in my case

	28-08-2003 04:33									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Pull yourselves out of it.

I'm with Bods on this, just get a f$%king grip the lot of you!

	28-08-2003 05:25									#16
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the only drug for me is sweet lady liquor

Its become all to acceptable these days to **** with your body and **** with your brain. We have no idea how this stuff will affect teenagers who are taking it now, 30 or 40 years down the line.... I think anti-depressants, as well as other drugs are overprescribed nowadays. I'm sure there are people out there who absolutely need it, but I'm sure its less than 1/4th of the people taking it right now. I know plenty of people who take it, and yes depression was having an impact on their day-to-day lives. But just because you feel depressed for 2 months doesn't mean you need medication. Hell, I was depressed for 6+ months, and it had significantly impacted my life - lost lots of friends, grades went down the tubes, hardly did anything; but I got over it without any artificial means and now I think the experience made me stronger as a person.

So if you choose to take the pills now to **** with your brain chemistry go right ahead.... but when you're suffering from some brain disorder in 30 years don't start *****ing about it.

	28-08-2003 05:34									#17
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quote: Pull yourselves out of it.

Its not as easy as that. Its a chemical issue, the brain re-absorbs seratonin (a happy hormone) too effectively, and thats why we take selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors.

The cause can be either psychological or medical. Either way, it can't be helped.

I was on this generic fluoxitine hydrochloride (basically prozac) and it ****s with your head! I flushed it a couple months ago, the next month was tough but I'm good now.

I do think depression gives you an interesting outlook on life though, a new non-pragmatic, idealistic, philosophical perspective that is quite common in depressives or post-depressives in my experience. Every cloud...

	28-08-2003 05:39									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Fortunately I know I'm depressed. I've observed my lack of motivation, my disinterest in doing things beneficial to myself, my lack of desire to even do the things I'm supposed to love (reading and writing).

That sounds like me.

I've never even considered medication, but if that's what a depression is, then I've been in one for the last 2 years.

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I never got why so many people took mental-related pills--are that many people REALLY crazy, or do doctors just want to hand out Prozacs, Ritalins, and Zolofts to keep pharms rich and/or to get the patients out of the ****ing office?

Myself, I think these kinds of pills are (no offense) an escape from actually having to tough out or take on your depression. But that's just me though.

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Mercator: See a counsillor, talk to someone. Don't let them put you on this crap.

Even meditation is a good way to go

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quote: Myself, I think these kinds of pills are (no offense) an escape from actually having to tough out or take on your depression. But that's just me though.

Consider it more of a cast over a broken limb, whose fracture isn't healing.

I dont think I know anyone who willingly wants to be put on this stuff, its just a preferred option from the doctor, we dont know any better, and anyway, who are we to argue with a doc on such matters? Its a great pity that so many people are being pushed onto this stuff.

	28-08-2003 05:51									#22
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I guess I'm just one of those "tough it out, punk" guys then. But there really is little knowledge of what these drugs do 30 or 40 years down your line (perhaps they'll discover an accidentall infertility gene or two in Prozac ), and humanity survived for millions of years without it. (Yes, only several thousands of those years were civilised, but so?) They're the easy way out, and I usually don't think the easy way out solves a lot. However, it will prove itself when the drugged-up generation enters old age itself.

I don't like how easy doctors will prescribe the stuff. The few people I've been around on it were actually far worse (to me) while they were taking it than before (or after), though "Your results may differ," I just don't think the stuff really could work better than counseling. (Or placebo. Anyone know where links to studies on the crap is?)

	28-08-2003 05:53									#23
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Actually, it's possible that for most of the teenagers it's prescribed to, it's very wrong. Having the ups and downs (maybe more of either one) is all part of growing up, and if kids grow up all good then the effects could be unpredictable.

	28-08-2003 06:05									#24
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And what if they grow all bad?

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quote: Originally posted by elijah Mercator: See a counsillor, talk to someone. Don't let them put you on this crap. Even meditation is a good way to go

I've talked to plenty of people (not any professionals, just family etc.). I have my ups and downs (mostly downs), but I never really considered myself "officially" depressed, just... um... unmotivated, shy, whatever.

But if other people get on prozac for this...

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quote: Originally posted by Carlos113 And what if they grow all bad?

they'll become lawyers

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quote: Originally posted by Mercator I've talked to plenty of people (not any professionals, just family etc.). I have my ups and downs (mostly downs), but I never really considered myself "officially" depressed, just... um... unmotivated, shy, whatever. But if other people get on prozac for this...

DON'T!

Keep your morals, be a man, stand up for what's right (so long as right means not taking it ) -- being "shy" or "unmotivated" are not reasons to drug yourself up. It's better to naturally overcome that shyness or lack of motivation WITHOUT the help of artificial "fixes".

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Er, how does fluoxetine "**** with your head?" I'm on it now and I don't seem to be screwier than usual. And if my memory serves me correctly, depression made me philosophical, but it wasn't exactly brilliant philosophy. It was a lot like the stupid, whiny, counterproductive rage-against-everything crap they vomit out at you in Fight Clu-oh, wait. Never mind.

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I´m curious now, are there any doctors in Apolyton?