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Scouse Gits is offline Scouse Gits

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Is 'font' a typo LF?
or do I need to take a French refresher while at The Institute?

Stu

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French refresher needed

Je fais
Tu fais
Il (Elle) fait
Nous faisons
Vous faisez
Ils (Elles) font

(verbe "faire" = to do >> ils font = they do)

(I grant anyone that the conjugation of French verbs requires sweat, but this is also true for French schoolboys )

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Rats!

I shall enroll forthwith

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... and Swiss shoolboys too (please forgive me, Cyrion )

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Slow and steady wins the race.
Proceed at your own pace, Cyrion.

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... and Swiss shoolboys too (please forgive me, Cyrion )


You're forgiven!

And, just as a teaser, let's just say that I chose to be ambitious, and that I am now resolving logistics related problems, to allow for some fun later...

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Yesh - I wish I had paid more attention at shool.

Surtout en Francais! Donné que j'ai passé ma licence en la littérature anglaise et française (et j'ai du mal à trouver ç avec Alt), j'ai beaucoup moins de liberté d'action à propos des erreurs!

(Cyrion also has an excellent scenario in the pipeline so I beg that he can be allowed un peu de liberté d'action with his turns here)

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You have whetted all our appetites, Cyrion.
Take your time - we will wait with baited breath.

Stu

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Originally posted by duke o' york

(Cyrion also has an excellent scenario in the pipeline so I beg that he can be allowed un peu de liberté d'action with his turns here)


Having been allowed to take part in the play test, I can confirm that it is indeed a well thought out scenario - set in a fantasy world that some of you wll be familiar with - that will provide anyone who plays it with many hours of enjoyment.

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Thank you...

Anyway, the turn isn't finished yet (that'll be for tonight!), but the logistics are behind!

So tonight will tell me if my planification was correct...

After 5 turns, here is the situation:

Not a single shot has been fired...

A new city established : Beachhead

A "few" units have been transfered there: Alpine, Cavalry, Engineers, Spies and... Howitzers...

I should have built more transports...

Let the slaughter begin...

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This sounds very promising. Have fun!!

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I only did 2 of the planned 4-turns offensive yet!

This takes much longer than I thougt (maybe because I am much more cautious than usually...).

Let's just say that at mid-offensive, I took 5 of the 10 target city, slaughtering around 65 units in the process...

But it's getting late, and I want to enjoy the end of that...

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You are such a tease!!

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Here it is guys, sorry about the delay, but for me it was really worth it !

This set of turns has been an education on the use of the howitzer : yes, I must admit that I usually don’t use them : not glamourous enough… But as I am not the only player in the game, I’ll try for once to be efficient !

And from what I read on the thread it is supposed to be amazingly efficient ! We’ll see…

So let’s be ambitious ! Where to attack ? ? I’ll go for the russian mainland (I’ll call it Russia) which houses 10 of their 19 cities !

To do that, I’ll allow me 5 preparation turns, and then try to take them all in 5 turns !

For this, I guess I would need 15 howitzers, 15 alpine, 5 spies and 8 engineers !

So let’s prepare for that…

Note : in all my turns I did much rushbuilding : freight in the Hides repeaters (and other cities where some goods were available), and units. The trade was nearly only delivered to OSM as I needed the transports for the troops !

So scientifically and economically, I haven’t been really efficient, but I was focusing on other goals… And anyway, what could we need once we have howitzers and spies…


End of 1884 :

Some RB, sliders from 1/6/3 to 6/1/3 (well yes, I need money… and the techs will come from trade, hopefully); tech from 3 to 10 turns, income from 278 to 1285 (cost 186). Hit return

1885 :

Discover Robotics, choose Flight (yes, too bad for the Colossus ! but I want airports (not for me, for my successor…)
Move transports to create a chain to the Russain Mainland ; some RB
Deliveries to OSM : 88, 87, 77, 103, 124, 55, 96,

1886 :

first freight leaves for Russia, with 2 alpine, 2 cavalry, 2 spies, 1 engineer and 1 food caravan ; Beachhead founded ; disband food and RB city walls
Deliveries to OSM : 968 (oil, demanded, from Tabriz), 304, 88, 87, 103, 80, 322, 72, 292
Some RB (the first howitzers…)

1887 :
Discover Flight, Radio not proposed ! choose refrigeration (nothing interesting…)
Deliveries to OSM : 82, 27 ( ! ! !), 51
Easter Star Howitzer annihilate Barb fanatic,

1888 :

Deliveries to OSM : 100 ; 83 ; 147 ; 47
RB Coastal Fortress in Beachhead ; some RB

1889 :

Partizan uprising near Nagasaki (4+1 of them)
Deliveries to OSM : 47 ; 45 ; 52 ; 46 ; 80 ; 47 ; 67 ; 80 ; Gold delivery Ace-Kiev : 232
Some RB
At the end of the turn, I have in Beachhead : 9 howitzers, 6 alpine, 2 cavalry, 1 engineer

1890 :

The attack should have been launched on this turn, but I’m not fully ready yet : I’ll prepare for 1 more turn, to be able to attack decisively…
OSM deliveries : 100 ; 80 ; 80 ; 48 ; 46 ; 98 ; 41 ; 172
Bribe barb partizans for 2x102
Revolution…

1891 :

Zabriz, Kabul, Nishapur, Persepolis revolt…
New government : Fundamentalism (are you surprised ? ?)
Rebels near Nagasaki
Deliveries i n OSM : 50 ; 22 ; 26 ; 31 ; 22 ; 

And here we go : Assault launched with 14 howitzers, 9 alpine, 3 engineers, 4 spies, 2 cavalry
Note : I’ll bring reiforcements every turns which I won’t list here : 8 units a turn, with Howitzers, Alpine, spies and engineers…

In Russia :
Attack on Kiev destroys 2 alpine, 2 marine, 2 fanatics, artillery (+ supported units: 2 transports, 2 submarines, 1 ironclad, 1 fanatics, 1 destroyer, 1 frigate) ; city taken, 442 Gold + fundamentalism
Attack on Smolensk destroys 2 alpine, riflemen, 2 fanatics, engineer, transport, spy (+ supported units : forgot to check…) ; city taken, 552 Gold + genetic engineering.
Some other russian units destroyed : 6 artillery, 1 engineer, 1 marine, 2 cavalry, 3 partizan, 2 unknown
Units lost : 1 spy (sabotaging a russian ironclad…)

On the spanish continent :
Attack on Astrakhan destroys 2 fanatics, 1 riflemen (+ supported : forgot to check…); city taken, ? ? Gold + guerilla warfare
Some other russian units destroyed : 1 marine, 2 artillery, 1 partizan, 1 cavalry

1892 :
Russian counterattack kills 1 spy, 3 transport, 1 riflemen ; they loose 1 cav + 1 ironclad

In Russia :
Attack on Moscow destroys 3 alpine, 1 fanatic (+ supported : forgot to check…); city taken, 454 Gold + Pyramids
Attack on Sverdlovsk destroys 1 alpine, 2 riflemen, 2 fanatic (+ supported : forgot to check…); city taken, ? ? Gold
Some other russian units destroyed : 5 partizan, 2 fanatics, 1 cavalry, 1 alpine
RB Coastal Fortress in Smolensk and Sverlovsk

On the spanish continent :
Bribe Barb Partizan (102)
Destroy russian cavalry
Deliveries to OSM : 22 ; 50 ; 39 ;

1893 :

Russian Counter attack on Beach head : Alpine with Coastal defense destroys 1 Ironclad, 4 Destroyers and 2 Cruisers ! ! !
A russian Battleship is cruising between Spain and Persia…
Russian have nearly completed Hoover Dam !

In Russia :
Attack on the Russian capital, Sevastopol, destroys 3 alpine, 1 fanatic, 2 riflemen (+ supported 2 engineers, 2 marines, 1 fanatic); city taken, 480 Gold ; Governement escapes to Yakutsk
Attack on St-Petersburg destroys 2 alpine, 2 fanatic, 1 riflemen, 1 engineer (+ supported : 1 transport, 1 submarine, 1 riflemen); city taken, 437 Gold ; Russian have abandoned Hoover Dam…
Attack on Minsk destroys 2 alpine, 2 fanatic (+ supported : 1 partizan, 1 artillery); city taken, 240 Gold
Attack on Odessa destroys 1 riflemen, 3 fanatic (+ supported : 1 riflemen, 1 artillery); city taken, 228 Gold
Some other russian units destroyed : 2 artillery, 2 Marine, Riflemen, 11 Partizans

On the spanish continent :
Bribe 2 Barb Partizan (102 each)
Destroy 1 russian fanatics, 1 destroyer, 1 unknown
Deliveries to OSM : 31 ; 26 ; 22

1894 :

Russian cruiser sinks transport west of sverdlovsk ; russian frigate dies attacking destroyer on spanish continent…

In Russia :
Attack on Tbilisi destroys 1 alpine, 2 riflemen (+ supported : 2 engineer); city taken, 476 Gold
Attack on Yakutsk (new capital) destroys 1 alpine, 4 fanatic, 2 riflemen (+ supported : 2 transport, 2 submarines, 1 engineer, 1 fanatic, 1 cruiser); city taken, 528 Gold + Cure for Cancer; government to Krasnoiarsk ; Russian have abandoned Hoover Dam…
Some other russian units destroyed : 14 partizans…
The Russian mainland is now fully ours…

On the spanish continent (or close to it) :
Bribe Rostov for 694 (42 in return and a lot of units : 3 Cavalry, 1 Riflemen, 1 fanatics, 1 alpine, 2 marine, 1 engineer) ; and 2 partizans destroyed

And here I stop, leaving to my sucessor the pleasure of finishing the turn…

As a conclusion to the turn, I must say that I am more than convinced of the howitzer’s efficiency !

In short, in 10 turns :
Population nearly doubled, 2 new wonders (conquered), and 12 new cities (1 built and 11 conquered…)

Was it worth waiting for so long ? ?

Attachment: osm1894.sav
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Truly Rodentian!

The Admiral would be proud!

Very well played Cyrion!

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Brilliant and definitely worth the wait. Beautifully done, Cyrion!!

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Truly Rodentian!

The Admiral would be proud!

Very well played Cyrion!


Thanks!

Honestly, it was for the Admiral that I played with much more planning than I usually do, to achieve a result that I would dare to share with him!

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And if my count is correct, with bribed units and the supported ones that where disbanded, the Russians lost between 170 and 180 units in 4 turns, ouch...

I might have overdone the defensive part of my attack, as the AI NEVER tried to counter-attack on land, only with some ships that kept on crushing on the coastal defenses I built in Beachhead!

But as it didn't slow me to much, I guess it's alright! And I had much much fun!

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Gentlemen,
I'm back.
Slowly moved to London I've finally managed to get a new pc and an internet connection.
However the new pc has XP and I've been so lucky to get a virus in the first internet connection .
Things to do before starting again civing:
i) find a Civ2 patch for XP (or it's because of the virus?)
ii) get rid of the f***ing bastard worm
iii) remember not to access the internet without firewall and antivirus on
iv) in the spare time (apart from civ obviously) start a pc course...

Hope to be back in the next few days.

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Welcome back!!

For XP-Home at least, no extra patches are necessary to run Civ, other than the usual game patches...2.42, etc..

Good luck with the virus, worm problem.

Monk

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Welcome back!!

For XP-Home at least, no extra patches are necessary to run Civ, other than the usual game patches...2.42, etc..

Good luck with the virus, worm problem.

Monk

d/loaded the patch, I'm still missing some .dll files... I think the viruses have done more damage than I've thought...

I must definitely find some spare time to dedicate to the problem...

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I've downloaded the file, and will commence playing. This sounds as though it will take a while; your collective patience is requested.

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I've downloaded the file, and will commence playing. This sounds as though it will take a while; your collective patience is requested.


I won't be the one who complains!

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Awesome offensive, Cyrion. Well worth the wait.

DaveV -- You must live up to a high standard...

M.Niccolo -- welcome back, and best of luck in PC recovery.

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Initial reaction: we have railroad, howies, and spies. This game is over; all that remains is the mopping up.

I completely with Cyrion's earlier remark that logistics are the most important thing at this point. We need lots of engineers and more transports.

On the science front, the only worthwhile tech left is Theology (1 gold per city per turn), but I don't see the point in spending the beakers to finish off Radio and then research Theology. Since I won't be doing any more science, I can sell off all research buildings. Since growth is unimportant, I can sell off sewers, aqueducts, and granaries.

The goal is to milk our Fundy cash cow for all she's worth, using the cash to crank out more engineers and military. There's lots of nice flat land on the Viking/English/Russian continent, suitable for railroading.

More to follow...

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OMG! What did I start??

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Whatever it was, you can trust DaveV to finish it with style!

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A small point Cyrion - I note your use of a food caravan to grow Beachhead - would not a second Engineer 'b'ing in have been more cost effective?

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Nope, you misread me (or maybe I miswrote?? )!

I disbanded the food caravan to provide for the first rows of production, so that City walls could be rushbuilt without too much cost!

I might not have been necessary, though, as I would have had enough cash anyway...

 
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