16-09-2003 01:27									#61
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler ****in' hilarious. Can't wait for the courtroom drama. Maybe Arnie could even get a guest appearance in that soap.

Great time to be a law professor, huh! Love it.

	16-09-2003 01:30									#62
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Well if your courts had anything to do with law, it would...

	16-09-2003 02:11									#63
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And che once again shows that Communists can make anything a 'right-wing conspiracy' .

	16-09-2003 02:30									#64
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When you're at the north pole, you can only head south.

	16-09-2003 02:35									#65
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Anyway, could you provide a cite for your statement? Thanks.

I'll have to look. It was in a movie we saw at a Labor Party meeting.

	16-09-2003 02:39									#66
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quote: It was in a movie we saw at a Labor Party meeting.

Can we say unbiased sources?

I wasn't aware the Labor Party was still involved in brainwashing .

	16-09-2003 02:41									#67
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There is another issue which we haven't tackled. What about the absentee ballots which all use the old non-electronic style ballots? I don't see a way to move the absentee ballots away from the punch card system so even if we break the constitutionally mandated deadline and wait until march then we'll still have large numbers of people using punch cards.

	16-09-2003 02:44									#68
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quote: Originally posted by GePap blah, blah, blah blah .... nice rant..any facts there bucko? It would be nice if these kinds of dribble went out of style.

Blah, blah, blah yourself. Maybe if you actually lived here and listened to the local news day in day out you might understand the local issues better. As it is you obviously haven't a clue about what the state's constitution says about Recall Elections.

	16-09-2003 02:47									#69
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Just got the sample ballot in the mail. It runs 8 pages of candidates (back and front) To select a candidate, you 'complete the arrow' by adding a line between the front and backs of the arrow which points towards a candidate. I was a bit confused until I read the instructions.

	16-09-2003 02:48									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I wasn't aware the Labor Party was still involved in brainwashing .

It never was.

	16-09-2003 02:50									#71
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Did they play the Internationale in the background while they showed the evilness of the right wing .

	16-09-2003 02:50									#72
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It's not a communist group.

	16-09-2003 03:00									#73
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communist, anti-right wing lefties, what's the difference?

	16-09-2003 03:02									#74
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The revolution.

	16-09-2003 03:10									#75
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Oh, that pipe-dream .

	16-09-2003 03:11									#76
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I was watching a movie that had some background graffiti that said "Revolution is the Opiate of the Intellectuals."

	16-09-2003 03:33									#77
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That's sig material .

	16-09-2003 03:34									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There is another issue which we haven't tackled. What about the absentee ballots which all use the old non-electronic style ballots? I don't see a way to move the absentee ballots away from the punch card system so even if we break the constitutionally mandated deadline and wait until march then we'll still have large numbers of people using punch cards.

yeah well the libs don't care about the military votes. They conveniently leave that out when discussing the Nov 2000 election in Florida.

	16-09-2003 05:23									#79
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I laugh when people dis Davis, YOU GUYS ELECTED HIM! That makes it obvious that this is a right-wing circus. The polls show davis at about 50-50, SO THERE! And don't give me that "Bill Simon was crap in the 2000 election" BS either. Davis is a victim of raving populots like "Ahnuld".

	16-09-2003 05:38									#80
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If the election was held next month, I think Davis would be out by a small margin. Now I think Davis will win by a small margin and since he will not be reelected in 06, he will screw us big time before he leave office.

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The Republicans love to nominate ideologically pure candidates who have exactly 0% chance of winning. I mean why put up an anti-choice, anti-school, tax cuts to the wealthy and screw everyone else candidate who can't even beat the most disliked Governor in the history of the state?

What's more is those buffoons are doing it again by dividing their vote amoung two candidates while the lima deltas have atleast been smart enough to have only one candidate should Davis get recalled. If McCintock doesn't bow out then the choice will be between Davis or Bustamonte.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Republicans love to nominate ideologically pure candidates who have exactly 0% chance of winning. I mean why put up an anti-choice, anti-school, tax cuts to the wealthy and screw everyone else candidate who can't even beat the most disliked Governor in the history of the state? What's more is those buffoons are doing it again by dividing their vote amoung two candidates while the lima deltas have atleast been smart enough to have only one candidate should Davis get recalled. If McCintock doesn't bow out then the choice will be between Davis or Bustamonte.

I'd rarther have Davis then "Anuld"

	16-09-2003 05:47									#83
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That's because you don't live here and you don't have to pay for Davis's screw ups. Any politician that can turn a $10 billion surplus into a $38 billion dollar deficit needs to go. The thing is tax receits are only down like 12% but state spending has increased by almost 33% in just 1.5 years!

Clearly Davis can't say can't say no to any special interest so he's just giving away money we don't have.

	16-09-2003 05:54									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin That's because you don't live here and you don't have to pay for Davis's screw ups. Any politician that can turn a $10 billion surplus into a $38 billion dollar deficit needs to go. The thing is tax receits are only down like 12% but state spending has increased by almost 33% in just 1.5 years! Clearly Davis can't say can't say no to any special interest so he's just giving away money we don't have.

How do you know it's Davis and not corrupt state congresspeople eating pork? some of that deficit was from the energy debacle that was the fault of deregulation, not Davis.

Republicans look at Davis and say "LOOK, a scapegoat."

	16-09-2003 06:18									#85
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Davis could have vetoed any of the spending bills but choice not to because he wanted to get money out of the special interests. He just kept signing one new spending bill after another.

	16-09-2003 06:47									#86
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Odin, Davis is the primary reason we had an energy crisis. Even he has admitted this much.

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I think the 9th Circuit should also void the remedy. Since the settlement of the 2000 case in 2001, at least two statewide elections have been held. Numerous candidates were elected, including Davis. Numerous ballot propositions were decided. All of this elections should be declared VOID under the reasoning of the 9th Circus opinion - they were all unconstitutionally decided using punched ballots where, according to the court, minorities are not as capable as non minorities in punching the holes in the ballot.

And oh, by the way, isn't anyone complete appalled by this latter finding, without evidence, that minorities cannot punch a ballot as well as non minorities. That finding, by itself, is OUTRAGEOUS.

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Hmmm, the regulations were crafted by Wilson but the dems signed on to them just the same. The biggest problem leading up to the energy crisis was the people who believed deregulation meant the government should give up all control over monopoly businesses like power or water. The object should have been to make the system freer but still regulated so as to prevent the kinds of abuses that Enron pulled.

	16-09-2003 06:59									#89
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quote: And oh, by the way, isn't anyone complete appalled by this latter finding, without evidence, that minorities cannot punch a ballot as well as non minorities. That finding, by itself, is OUTRAGEOUS.

Just as appalling as Che arguing that minorities can't be arsed to clean balloting machines as well as The Man.

	16-09-2003 07:07									#90
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Also CNN is reporting that computer voting machines are often buggy and prone to errors so the lima deltas might be barking up the wrong tree yet again. Like Che said earlier at least you have a ballot you can put your hands on with a punch card but when a computer crashes you can lose all of the votes and have no back up. Not to meantion if the system gets hacked or the program contains an error in its code then it can be hard to figure out who really won an election.

I'm prodicting that electronic voting will still have the same idiots screwing up as the puch cards system did.