20-10-2003 12:28									#91
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that was so GP

	20-10-2003 12:32									#92
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Can someone tell me the point of being in a relationship for long periods of time without getting intimate. That is called having friends.

	20-10-2003 13:00									#93
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Interesting point, Sprayber. If I can draw a historical parallel, up until the dawn of the permissive age there was a social group found in developed countries that placed an emphasis on marrying upstanding and virtuous young women- a sort of moral trophy wife, if you like. In doing so, those men would often parade the joint virtue of themselves and their bride-to-be in a manner that sometimes seemed at odds with their own (often emphatically declared) rugged masculinity. This people, for the sake of accuracy in my historical example, were called "homosexuals".

So that's the historical angle. In today's moral climate it's probably the case that little or none of the above applies, so it's anyone's guess.

	20-10-2003 13:17									#94
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Well maybe I'm reading his intentions wrong. If he wants to wait until marriage then fine, it's none of my business. But going into a marriage without knowing if there is any sexual chemistry is just asking for divorce when this girl gets about 24 and she is wondering what in the hell she missed out on. If they are lucky there won't be any kids involved to get ****ed up in the process.

Also has anyone else stopped to consider that there may be a valid reason behind this mother's overprotection of her daughter?

	20-10-2003 13:20									#95
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Sprayber:

Sexual chemistry?

How would one determine this chemistry yet still wait until marriage?

	20-10-2003 13:21									#96
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You mean she might turn into a giant panther and rip him to bloody shreds if he tries to get jiggy with her? Wow.

	20-10-2003 13:27									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Sprayber: Sexual chemistry? How would one determine this chemistry yet still wait until marriage?

Thats the point, you cant. Ultmately it is his business not anyone else's, I was merely stating my opionon based upon what I have seen.

	20-10-2003 16:19									#98
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I can just about understand the don't intend to have sex bit, if it is qualified with, well actually we want to go at it like rabbits but are going to wait until we are ready. but he desn't seem to be saying that and that is nothing like any 18 year old i ever knew

	20-10-2003 16:32									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer and apparently, things have completely changed. her mother keeps telling my girl how nice i seemed and that i look so good. its like she's now encouraging her daughter to be with me. aint that ironic? looks like **** worked out by itself.

Continue to please the mother in your interactions with her, and you have a ticket !

	20-10-2003 20:09									#100
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi I think he has morals.

I think he's got erectile dysfunction.

	20-10-2003 20:10									#101
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If he's not going to get any, then what's the point of having a good-looking girlfriend?

	20-10-2003 20:10									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer her mother keeps telling my girl how nice i seemed and that i look so good. its like she's now encouraging her daughter to be with me.

Well, that's the kiss of death on the relationship.

	20-10-2003 20:13									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Sexual chemistry? How would one determine this chemistry yet still wait until marriage?

"Sexual chemistry," IIRC, is about how much the other person finds you attractive, in a "oh I want to make passionate love with him/her" kind of way.

	20-10-2003 20:30									#104
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It's also about how well you have sex together. You may be magnetically attracted to someone, then have sex, and realize, "What was I thinking?" I've had that happen on a couple of occassions. Glad I wasn't as stupid as Speer, and waited to marry them first. May as well as torn off my scrotum and become a monk.

	20-10-2003 20:38									#105
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It's also about how well you have sex together.

Don't they have another term for that?

quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You may be magnetically attracted to someone, then have sex, and realize, "What was I thinking?"

Wouldn't you need time to make adjustments?

	20-10-2003 20:46									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Wouldn't you need time to make adjustments?

When the magic is gone, the magic is gone.

	20-10-2003 21:17									#107
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Yeah, but you were just a young brat

	20-10-2003 21:18									#108
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And so is Speer.

	20-10-2003 21:20									#109
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albert, do you really have to use the phrase "what with ____"

	20-10-2003 22:17									#110
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Well if you marry her, just move as far away as you ca n from her and limit the contact you have to make with her mother. I dont think you will be every able to change her mother. THat is they way she is and she most likely would never be happy with any man your girlfriend will ever marry.

	20-10-2003 23:24									#111
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse If he's not going to get any, then what's the point of having a good-looking girlfriend?

Honestly, I've mey two guys who had low self esteem and they would always play the "I don't want a girlfriend and I don't want to get laid" line. I honestly believe they could get laid if they'd just have the confidence to ask a few girls out on dates but they seem to be afraid to try. My guess is they're so afraid of failing that they've rationalized themselves into believing that they can't fail if they just don't try. I.E. "I'm not failing; I just don't want to try".

That may be to much psychoanalysis though.

	20-10-2003 23:26									#112
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara When the magic is gone, the magic is gone.

There are lots of things which can be done to revive a couple's sex life when things have gone stale.

	20-10-2003 23:38									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer now of course i understand where her mother is coming from with this but i also know that if there's one straight guy on earth who she can trust with her daughter it's me. How can I get this woman's approval to be with her daughter? thank you

Sounds like moms need the hot beef injection. Fix her up with your uncle. Once she's gettin it regularly she'll be too preoccupied to worry about what you're doing with the daughter...

	21-10-2003 00:17									#114
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It's also about how well you have sex together. You may be magnetically attracted to someone, then have sex, and realize, "What was I thinking?" I've had that happen on a couple of occassions. Glad I wasn't as stupid as Speer, and waited to marry them first. May as well as torn off my scrotum and become a monk.

They just don't understand che. They are young and think they know everything. They just don't listen to us old timers.

	21-10-2003 03:43									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There are lots of things which can be done to revive a couple's sex life when things have gone stale.

I'm talking 'bout when it starts out stale.

Okay, story time. I used to have a comrade, let's call her Anastasia (names changed to protect me from the innocent). Annie had really huge "tracts of land" if you catch my drift. I had the hots for her for years. Well, we're studying one night, and drinking, and one thing leads to another (I was a very pretty boy in those days), and next thing you know, the two of us are engaging in a little "free love." Well, despite a very heroic effort on my part, which Annie was thoroughly happy with, I just never got around to the point of the whole excercise. A week later, after another party were we got thoroughly trashed, we tried again. Same results.

Today I know that my lack of "finality" was due to the alcohol I had consumed. (Tip for you virgins and others, while alcohol may make her hot and wild, it makes "little you" numb). Since I didn't know this at the time, I thought she was a lousy lay, and my revolutionary ardore quickly cooled. And a couple weeks later my phone got shut off and I couldn't call her and so we didn't see each other for three months (and no, I didn't have money for a pay phone, I was that poor).

First impressions are lasting impressions, especially in bed.

	21-10-2003 03:51									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There are lots of things which can be done to revive a couple's sex life when things have gone stale.

I am very interested in them. My sexual life hasn't gone stale yet, but it is something I seriosuly consider, since I expect my relationship to last long.

	21-10-2003 07:08									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There are lots of things which can be done to revive a couple's sex life when things have gone stale.

It's unfortunate that the guy usually suggests a threesome with the girl and her best friend.

"Gee, not only can he not satisfy one woman, he's gonna try for two. At the same time."

	21-10-2003 07:27									#118
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse If he's not going to get any, then what's the point of having a good-looking girlfriend?

Maybe he likes to fight.

Seriously, I like having attractive women friends even if we don't get it on. It's just more pleasant to look at a beautiful face than an ugly one.

	21-10-2003 07:32									#119
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin It's unfortunate that the guy usually suggests a threesome with the girl and her best friend. "Gee, not only can he not satisfy one woman, he's gonna try for two. At the same time."

Sounds like he was hoping that you would satisfy one another, and he could masturbate. It worked when he was doing it to Penthouse after all.

	21-10-2003 07:37									#120
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin Even a loaner is a pain. I mean, I don't want to have to wear the damn thing. I don't even like to wear shoes. If a gun or a car is a metaphor for a penis, I'd rather someone loaned me their gun, because I personally have no use for a penis and I hate to drive (being both Asian and female, simultaneously, I am doubly unsuited to manouvering an automobile).

I've got a .45 which I don't need as a symbolic virility device as I am in a relationship right now. You could borrow that, but I hear you prefer a 9mm. More shots, but less stopping power.