19-10-2003 00:05									#1
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...requestid=15391

Quite frankly, I thought they were the same thing.

	19-10-2003 00:18									#2
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"He told one gathering: "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.""

cool

	19-10-2003 00:20									#3
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My god's **** is bigger than your god's ****. My god's **** is huge.

	19-10-2003 00:22									#4
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It takes one to know one. Maybe it's a good thing that one fanatic is hunted by another loonie. If the rest of us are lucky, they'll kill each other without dragging the rest of the world with them.

	19-10-2003 00:24									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf "He told one gathering: "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this."" cool

*sigh*

	19-10-2003 00:30									#6
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god > allah
Beatles > jesus
jesus = god
Beatles > allah

	19-10-2003 00:37									#7
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I'm not thinking what the man is saying that much, I'm thinking isn't God and Allah the same thing, so I think he makes no sense.

	19-10-2003 00:38									#8
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Maybe he is Osama's twin brother, separated from him shortly after birth and brought up in America

	19-10-2003 00:39									#9
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And in the end of the movie, they're about to meet again. That's such a touching, heart-warming story.

	19-10-2003 00:40									#10
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yep, Allah is Arabic for God

	19-10-2003 00:41									#11
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And in that case, is George W. Bush the funny side-kick?

	19-10-2003 00:43									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel And in the end of the movie, they're about to meet again.

in a rooftop fight, presumably

	19-10-2003 00:43									#13
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Nah come on, this thread was not created in purpose of having yet another chance to bash the president...
bash the other guy who said God is bigger than Allah .

	19-10-2003 00:44									#14
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Who's bashing? It's nothing wrong with being funny (not that I am, the president of the US of A is).

	19-10-2003 00:44									#15
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Allah was the pre-muslim arab Moon God or Demon.

	19-10-2003 00:45									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin And in that case, is George W. Bush the funny side-kick?

Nah, he's like Charlie in Charlie's angels.

	19-10-2003 00:46									#17
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Except that even puny peons like you and me can see George all the time... That would be something George's angels.... Not as sexy as the original ones though.

	19-10-2003 00:47									#18
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Kropotkin, no one yet, but I kind of feel it coming .

	19-10-2003 00:51									#19
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	19-10-2003 00:53									#20
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quote: "I don't want to come across as a Right-wing radical," he said.

	19-10-2003 01:06									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka I'm not thinking what the man is saying that much, I'm thinking isn't God and Allah the same thing, so I think he makes no sense.

NO! They are not the same deity at all. Allah was originally the Moon God of various Arab tribes back when they were polytheist. It has nothing to do with Yawheh who revealed himself to the Israelites centuries prior.

Furthermore, they teach radically different things. The God of the Bible teaches salvation through grace. Allah teaches salvation through works. If they are the same deity then why do they teach radically different ways to salvation?

Also, if they are the same deity, then why did He tell the Jews that Jesus was his only Son and then tell the Arabs that Jesus wasn't His Son?

Yes, Allah means "god" in Arabic but it is not referring to the same deity as the God of the Bible.

	19-10-2003 01:10									#22
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Aaaaaaaah ok. Then God IS bigger than Allah!

	19-10-2003 01:27									#23
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True about God:

Yahweh is the monotheistic god. But his concept probably merged with the Canaanite deity 'El', or even spawned from him, since the hebrew word for 'god' is 'El'.

Since, Hebrews are most likely a canaanite tribe ( much like the Phoencians, the Ammonites, and the Moabites), and the story of Abraham describes some refugees from the Mesopotamian region, who brought Yahweh, and merged him with god, It's not a coinicidence that 'Allah' was the god which muhammad chose to show the muslims as the monotheistic god, the one god.

One of the most fascinating passages in the bible is the meeting of Abraham and the priest of El in ( not surprisingly ) Jerusalem.

Makes lots of sense? Explains a lot? You Betcha.

	19-10-2003 01:30									#24
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I heard a report today that his comments were taken out of context. He at the time was talking about a Moghadishu warlord that worshiped money and power.

Still, the comments by the General were a bit much, IMO. The admin should do something to distance themselves from them.

	19-10-2003 01:51									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Still, the comments by the General were a bit much, IMO. The admin should do something to distance themselves from them.

Since your country is supposed to be separated from the Church, that sure would be welcome. Such comments could give the image that your agenda lies on religious zeal; it would be a terrible image.

	19-10-2003 02:05									#26
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quote: Yes, Allah means "god" in Arabic but it is not referring to the same deity as the God of the Bible.

That's ok, because the "God" of the Bible is not referring to the same deity as Yahweh of the Torah .

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Since your country is supposed to be separated from the Church, that sure would be welcome. Such comments could give the image that your agenda lies on religious zeal; it would be a terrible image.

Totally agree!

	19-10-2003 02:20									#28
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Oooow, I see a Trinity thread coming on here, because Muslims believe that it is incorrect to say God is 3 people, but at the same time 1.

The Torah is in the bible.

	19-10-2003 02:22									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Yes, Allah means "god" in Arabic but it is not referring to the same deity as the God of the Bible. That's ok, because the "God" of the Bible is not referring to the same deity as Yahweh of the Torah .

WTF are you guys arguing about? The God we are all talking about is the God who created the heavens and the earth. How can this be two different Gods?

Of course, when we start adding in Christ and the Holy Ghost, things do get complicated.

	19-10-2003 02:28									#30
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A true Christian turns the other cheek.